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Re: Gymopilus spectabilis; anyone tripped on them? [Re: ]
    #1450848 - 04/11/03 09:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I believe I consumed some before... If memory serves I had to eat around 6 g dried to achieve a level 3 trip. Can't really remember how the trip went. I think it was a overall pleasent experience with a little more gastoral cramping then I tend to get with cubes.


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Re: Gymopilus spectabilis; anyone tripped on them? [Re: ]
    #1451774 - 04/12/03 05:45 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Im not aware of any study that indicated that there was psilocybin/psilocin in this mushroom. Japanese studies found none of these alkaloids, but found a different neurotoxin. Id expect that if this is true, then the experience should be quite interesting.
Other gyms have very low levels of psilocybin though, so im not sure. And they taste foul.


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Re: Gymopilus spectabilis; anyone tripped on them? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1451918 - 04/12/03 09:54 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I've read on this site that some gym samples have had kavataclones (yes the kava kava alkaloids). Interesting mushrooms indeed.


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Re: Gymopilus spectabilis; anyone tripped on them? [Re: Organic]
    #1452786 - 04/12/03 04:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, G. spectabilis has yangonine and nor--yangonine in thaem, a kavatone found in Yohimbe bark.

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there are studies supporting the occurerence of psilocine/psilocybine in Gumnopilus spectabilis. But no chemical analysis of psilocybine in the species.

Personal bioassay from Ott, Pollock, Gary Lincoff and me all agree it is a psilocybian hiigh.

Here are a list of analysis of several species of Gyms./

Hatfield, G. M. 1971. Occurrence of Bis-noryangonin and hispidin in Gymnopilus species. Lloydia vol. 34(2):260-263.
Stryrlpyrones (bis-noryangonin and hispidin) are detected in 6 species of Gymnopilus.

------. 1977-1979. Toxic Plants. Psilocybin and psilocin. In: Ed.) A. D. Kinghorn's Toxic Plants. Columbia University Press. New York.

Hatfield, G. M. and L. R. Brady. 1969. Occurrence of Bis-noryangonin in Gymnopilus spectabilis. Journal of Pharmaceutical Science vol. 58(10):1298.
Bis-noryangonin, a styrylpyrone found in the Pacific drug root Kava (Piper mythisticum) is now reported as occuring in Gymnopilus spectabilis and G. decurrens Hesler. No psilocybin was detected in this study.

------ and ------. 1975. Toxins of higher fungi. Lloydia vol. 38(1):36-55. March-April.

Hatfield, G. M., Valdez, L. J., and Alexander H. Smith. 1977. Proceedings-isolation of psilocybin from the hallucinogenic mushroom Gymnopilus validipes. Lloydia vol. 40(6):619. November-December.
A summary of the isolation of psilocybin from Gymnopilus validipes. Additionally, psilocybin was also detected in specimens of Gymnopilus aeruginosus, G. luteus, G. viridans, and G. spectabilis.

------, ------ and ------. 1978. The occurrence of psilocybin in Gymnopilus species. Lloydia vol. 41(1):140-144. March-April.
In 1976, 2 individuals from Dearborn Heights, Michigan reported a psilocybian intoxication after accidently consuming specimens of Gymnopilus validipes.



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Gymnopilus sapineus: Guzm?n-Davalos & Guzm?n, 1995.
Gymnopilus spectabilis=(syn.=Pholiota spectabilis); (Gymnopilus spectabilis (Fr.) Smith (=G. junonius (Fr.) Orton): Aoyagi et al., 1983; Buck, 1964; Gerault, 1976; Hatfield, 1971; Hatfield & Brady, 1969; Nozoe et al., 1983a; Nozoe et al, 1983b; Romagnesi, 1964; Sanford, 1972; Stamets, 1996. Tanaka et al., 1993; Walters, 1965; Wasson, 1973c; Yu, 1959.


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    #1454465 - 04/13/03 11:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

One other nor te of importence. This shroom is very bitter and leaves your mouth lemon-like-puckered for about a half an hour after nibbleing on small pieces. It is disgusting to the palette.

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    #1455563 - 04/14/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

4-8 dried,

But I said bitter I meant bitter. and that was just a bibble the first time. I ended up making a stew/soup and drank it. It was ghastly. Try it, you'll like it.


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Doi what you need to do.

The gymnopi;lus purpuratus I tried from Germany years ago was 6 driued shrooms. Not sure of their weight but they are very common in Germany. They are originally only know of found in Chile, Australia and new Zealand in the Austral Floral Zone. The mushrooms came to Germany in liquid fertilizers made form pig swill and sprayed on woodchips which came to Germany in the 1970s.

Terence McKenna wrote about Mordechai Cooke. He discovered several Panbaeolus mushrooms and named the Gymnopilus purpuratus as Flamula purpurata Cooke nad Masse.

He may have sampled some of these mushrooms because he wrote about narcotics and drugs in his book, "Tthe Seven Sisters of Sleep.

He also discovered Inocybe haemacta, another psilocybian musrhoom, also in the familiy of Cortinariaceae. Mycologist Cooke also studied Psilocybe semilanceata (the liberty cap). He wrote about the bluing in certain mushrooms trying to figure out what caused it..

The first Flamulata mushroom was discovered on a tree bark in Kew Gardens in Surrey, a South American tree.

And as noted it is common in Australia and NZ.

But the gyms as a whole are ignored as food because of the bitter taste. Hence no European intoxications. There is one analysis of spectabils, but the purpuratus has the highest psilocine content of all the various known European species..

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Re: Gymopilus spectabilis; anyone tripped on them? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1459543 - 04/15/03 07:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Cleland also reported Purpuratus as Flamula purpurata in 1927 in Australia.
Ill quote from Stamets - i hate doing it but i think its relevant:
G.Spectabilis: Tanaka 1993, did not find any psilocybin or psilocin in this species, but identified a new halluncinogen which they described as belonging to a group of 'neurotoxins' aligoisoprenoids.


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