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Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these?
    #14505096 - 05/24/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

First, note the attached poll.

I have only tried mushrooms of these three...but I would like to try Mescaline and LSD as well.

Can you list from most to least in terms of:

1) Visuals?
2) Spirituality?
3) Mindfuck?
4) Philosophicality (could be the same as mindfuck)

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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14505143 - 05/24/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's really impossible to say that one psychedelic is "more visual" or has "more mindfuck" than another. They're all psychedelics and they make you trip.

What IS different is the CHARACTER of the trip. You might see different features or patterns in the visuals. This is kinda difficult to describe, but it's really like each drug has it's own personality.

The only real differences that I can say is that shrooms are a bit more confusing and anxious (for me at least) and can cause discomfort and nausea. Mescaline (i've only tried extracted mescaline) is VERY comfortable and makes you want to lie down. LSD gives you no nausea, but there is a little bit of anxiety/tension, but not nearly as bad as shrooms.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14505150 - 05/24/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've heard some say Mescaline has an amphetamine-like edge and makes you want to walk around...either way I know what you are talking about with the anxiety behind shrooms.  It's good to know other psychedelics have less of that trait.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14505179 - 05/24/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

IDK, I've only tried mescaline twice. The first time I just wanted to lay in my hammock for the whole peak. The second time I took a shit load of molly with it and danced around all night. But another friend of mine who's tried peyote said he was just floored the whole time. Shrooms tend to produce couch-lock too, and aren't really good for being super active.

I'd say mescaline has a phenethylamine feel rather than an "amphetamine" feel... which probably doesn't mean much to you if you haven't tried any other phens (like 2C-I, 2C-B, etc). They are similar chemically, but phen trips, IME, are characterized more by physical comfort and a dopamine-type high, and can be rather visually stunning, but like I said, in a different way than the tryptamines. When I've taken amphetamines like MDMA, adderall, and ritalin, you just want to be very ACTIVE and TALK A LOT! That kind of stuff. ... not my experience with mesc...


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14505216 - 05/24/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm...what do you mean by a dopamine-type high?  You mean as opposed to a serotonin-type high?  I've always associated dopamine with that lustful, awesome sort of feeling you get after you ace a test or something like that, and serotonin with that laid back, relaxed, peaceful feeling.  But I've recently been told these parallels aren't quite accurate...

Also correct me if I'm wrong, but amphetamines typically mess with dopamine levels moreso than serotonin, yes?  So therefore shouldn't the amphetamines you mentioned also have a "dopamine-type" high?

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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14506013 - 05/24/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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IDK, I've only tried mescaline twice. The first time I just wanted to lay in my hammock for the whole peak. The second time I took a shit load of molly with it and danced around all night. But another friend of mine who's tried peyote said he was just floored the whole time. Shrooms tend to produce couch-lock too, and aren't really good for being super active.

I'd say mescaline has a phenethylamine feel rather than an "amphetamine" feel... which probably doesn't mean much to you if you haven't tried any other phens (like 2C-I, 2C-B, etc). They are similar chemically, but phen trips, IME, are characterized more by physical comfort and a dopamine-type high, and can be rather visually stunning, but like I said, in a different way than the tryptamines. When I've taken amphetamines like MDMA, adderall, and ritalin, you just want to be very ACTIVE and TALK A LOT! That kind of stuff. ... not my experience with mesc...



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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14506291 - 05/24/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I made comparing some of the effects of shrooms and LSD a little while back, you can read it here

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Vibes/Headspace

For me shrooms feel very spiritual. Being a spiritual person myself, shrooms help me connect with the universe.

Acid is very stimulating. It makes you want to get up dance and enjoy things. But I find it less spiritual and far more egotistical.

Shrooms feel more like a dream, while acid feel more like mania.

Visuals

Shroom visuals are very hyperspace'esque, the visuals are like a slow version of DMT. Being in nature rocks too.



Acid visuals are crazy and weird. Acid seems to bring my imagination in to reality, and I will will see effects like in CGI films happing to regular objects. As well as fractals and all sorts of wonderful shit.




Duration

Shrooms: 6-8 hours
Acid: 8-12 hours

Shrooms are far shorter lasting than acid. Shrooms have one solid peak, as in you come up, feel it and then start cruising down. Acid can come in waves and if you're not ready for that you may think you're permafried and freak out :P




Bottom line

It's a lot harder to have a bad trip on shrooms and it can really prepare you for the psychedelic headspace. I'd say start with shrooms a couple of times and get a feel for them then try lucy and see how you go. If you love having a good time I'm sure you'll like lucy more - but if you're very spiritual/philosophical then shrooms may be your cup of tea... pun intended :crazy2:




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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Dawks]
    #14506321 - 05/24/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Dawks said:
I made comparing some of the effects of shrooms and LSD a little while back, you can read it here

Quote:

Dawks said:
Vibes/Headspace

For me shrooms feel very spiritual. Being a spiritual person myself, shrooms help me connect with the universe.

Acid is very stimulating. It makes you want to get up dance and enjoy things. But I find it less spiritual and far more egotistical.

Shrooms feel more like a dream, while acid feel more like mania.

Visuals

Shroom visuals are very hyperspace'esque, the visuals are like a slow version of DMT. Being in nature rocks too.



Acid visuals are crazy and weird. Acid seems to bring my imagination in to reality, and I will will see effects like in CGI films happing to regular objects. As well as fractals and all sorts of wonderful shit.




Duration

Shrooms: 6-8 hours
Acid: 8-12 hours

Shrooms are far shorter lasting than acid. Shrooms have one solid peak, as in you come up, feel it and then start cruising down. Acid can come in waves and if you're not ready for that you may think you're permafried and freak out :P




Bottom line

It's a lot harder to have a bad trip on shrooms and it can really prepare you for the psychedelic headspace. I'd say start with shrooms a couple of times and get a feel for them then try lucy and see how you go. If you love having a good time I'm sure you'll like lucy more - but if you're very spiritual/philosophical then shrooms may be your cup of tea... pun intended :crazy2:






So the bottom line is... You need both.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14506433 - 05/24/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Haven't ever been able to score mescaline, but i've done acid, and shrooms.

Acid was awful, it was incredibly speedy, the body high was bad, I did not enjoy the visuals, and I threw up for hours. Not only that but I felt bad/off/not right for several months after taking acid.

Shrooms are fun, visuals do vary, but can be immense. On an ultra high doses it's an absolute nightmare, you will think, and feel like you're dying. Not to mention you'll lose your grip on reality, will be unable to move, and can have out of body experiences (I have).

The body high on shrooms varies for me, and every strain (of cubensis) reacts differently for me. Thai's are very speedy, Transkei's are very lethargic/relaxing, just the way it is for me, and my friends report similar results...


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14506454 - 05/24/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I find the shroom trip shorter but otherwise more ups and downs than lsd (opposite of the graph)
and because of physical bulkiness it affects gut more than lsd.
for me it is easier to have good trips on lsd than shrooms, though I would never turn either of them down.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Dawks]
    #14506569 - 05/24/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I've done shrooms several times.  My last trip was a little over 5g and I tripped BALLS, I had visuals very similar to DMT trips I've had, and I thought maybe the shrooms induced a DMT flashback but I see you've noticed the visual similarities as well.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14506576 - 05/24/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Haven't ever been able to score mescaline, but i've done acid, and shrooms.

Acid was awful, it was incredibly speedy, the body high was bad, I did not enjoy the visuals, and I threw up for hours. Not only that but I felt bad/off/not right for several months after taking acid.

Shrooms are fun, visuals do vary, but can be immense. On an ultra high doses it's an absolute nightmare, you will think, and feel like you're dying. Not to mention you'll lose your grip on reality, will be unable to move, and can have out of body experiences (I have).

The body high on shrooms varies for me, and every strain (of cubensis) reacts differently for me. Thai's are very speedy, Transkei's are very lethargic/relaxing, just the way it is for me, and my friends report similar results...



:freshwtf:

IMO, Acid is the most amazing drug evar, although I haven't yet had the chance to try DMT. All of these drugs effect different people in different ways. For instance, the first couple times I took shrooms (which was also my first psychedelic experiences), I felt awful and threw up many times. The first time, and every time, I've taken acid has been amazing, although the word really doesn't do it justice.

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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Blight]
    #14506705 - 05/24/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

For me shrooms has visuals(stuff coming out of stuff, random things appearing) where as LSD i see more patterns and everything is constantly melting. LSD is also more spiritual and more of a mindfuck, in a good way of course. LSD >>>>>>> Shrooms


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: KahTahToe]
    #14506777 - 05/24/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

*remembers the 8 month long acid trip report, posted in this forum, with insane asylum documentation*

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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Dawks]
    #14506904 - 05/24/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nice write-up Dawks.

I did peyote a few times 40 years ago, when I was 16.  Wonderful, warm, grinning ... felt really in touch with the earth and its creatures.

Have had some scary LSD experiences .... edgy for me .. digital .. wild visuals .. weird thoughts (problem was my youth and I couldn't handle it.)

Mushrooms (cubensis) ... vary between the 'love' peyote feel .... and a weird psychotic feel ... like it varies between spirituality and mental illness.  Had the most experience with them ... can be very very nice.



edit. the acid we had back then was real.  LSD .. windowpane, purple micro dot, orange sunshine ... Northern CA college town.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14507126 - 05/24/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

At fully immersive doses I can't see how anyone could tell the difference between the three.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14507203 - 05/24/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shrooms are very spacey and introverted.  You feel a lot more zoned out.  But the trip has a much more Earthy feel to it.  The visuals are weird and things seem to morph a lot.  They get bigger and smaller and closer and further away.

LSD is by far my favorite.  It's not spacey at all.  It's like that pill from that movie that just came out that makes your brain superhuman.  It gives you a powerful connection to the Earth like shrooms, but to me it's way more cosmic.  It also has my favorite visuals by far.  They're way more fluid and melty.

Mescaline is the most euphoric.  It's like LSD + MDMA.  The headspace is a lot more mild, and there's a lot less mindfuck.  And even if there is mindfuck, you probably won't notice it while you're rolling around in ecstatic euphoria.  The visuals on mescaline are a lot more rigid and fractally for me.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: muistrue]
    #14507247 - 05/24/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've only done shrooms out of the three listed. I only did about a half eighth each time but I had amazing and completely different "themed" trips. I usually would get couch lock for a majority of my trips and wouldn't want to walk while I was peaking. I've never really had a scary experience while on booms. But I could feel a part of me wanting to scare the shit out of me, kinda weird to explain. I think you guys can relate though.

The last time I took shrooms was Saturday night. After I started feeling it I couldn't help but just close my eyes and open my mind. All in all awesome times is all I've had with mushies.

Don't get me wrong, if I could meet Lucy or find some mescalin. I would not hesitate to give It a shot.


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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: muistrue]
    #14507274 - 05/24/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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At fully immersive doses I can't see how anyone could tell the difference between the three.



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Re: Please compare Mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms in terms of these? [Re: BothHands]
    #14507387 - 05/24/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah even though I've never tried acid I've always thought of it as being "cosmic", like you were travelling through space, as to the more Earthy and at-home feeling of mushrooms.


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