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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14503873 - 05/24/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im sure weed is 100% healthy when eaten
Well, you're wrong since you have little to no idea what it does to your endocannabinoid system. Also there are withdrawal symptoms but they are manageable. A lot of people I know feel pretty bad if they go 1 day without smoking.
Weed was the hardest thing for me to abstain from, harder than cigarettes, alcohol, prescription drugs, coke, caffeine.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: AgingHippy]
#14503879 - 05/24/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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not saying this IS the reason, but I normally eat unusually sugary food when im high.
Yup, it will do that. Its telling you that you need to intake energy (stored in sugary molecules... ) when in fact you dont need it. It will make your liver produce fatty acids which are generally bad for you and your heart.
I'd say 2-3 times a week is safe.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#14503883 - 05/24/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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scientists did know that the brain is in fact an organ in the human body when they coined the two terms.
*sorry, apparently you have mush instead of brains, so you are the exception
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: AgingHippy]
#14503922 - 05/24/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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teefizzle said: scientists did know that the brain is in fact an organ in the human body when they coined the two terms.
*sorry, apparently you have mush instead of brains, so you are the exception
Getting all defensive because im attacking your lord and savior marijuana. Get over it, just the facts mam. Marijuana does show symptoms of physical withdrawal after abstaining.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#14503945 - 05/24/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Physical addiction or psychological addiction – Is there a real difference? There's no such thing as a purely psychological addiction Published on July 26, 2010 This is another one of the basic questions I get regarding addiction.
It seems that people think about physical addiction and psychological addiction as somehow separate processes. I think this distinction makes no sense. Even if people really meant what they were saying, the brain is undoubtedly part of the body, and therefore, psychological addictions are also physical.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#14503948 - 05/24/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess I could say I'm addicted to weed... But it would be very easy for me not to smoke it.
I only smoke in the evening when I know i'll be gonna to sleep in a few hours. I dislike smoking during the day cause I leaves me lethargic when the buzz comes down... + I would feel guilty of being high an entire day...
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#14503958 - 05/24/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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teefizzle said: scientists did know that the brain is in fact an organ in the human body when they coined the two terms.
*sorry, apparently you have mush instead of brains, so you are the exception
Getting all defensive because im attacking your lord and savior marijuana. Get over it, just the facts mam. Marijuana does show symptoms of physical withdrawal after abstaining.
whoa bro, hey bro, I just said you had mush for brains because your name is mush 4 brains bro.
marijuana is more like a really good dog than a lord and savior
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Patlal]
#14503965 - 05/24/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'm so addicted to marijuana, i think i'll shoot some up rihgt now
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: AgingHippy]
#14503967 - 05/24/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Like I always say in these threads: Physical withdrawal is only ONE characteristic of a medical diagnosis of "substance dependence".
You can have dependence without physical withdrawal, and vice versa. "Physical addiction" isn't a clinically used term, and not used by professionals in the field. Technically, its not even a real definition.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14503971 - 05/24/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: I feel like I'm addicted to it Say I have a random stash of drugs (including all recreational classes) I can abstain from anything in the stash apart from the weedz. I'd compulsively smoke it as soon as I wake up. Everything else will be in place for months but the weed will disappear in several days. I won't feel particularly shitty after heavy use, maybe feel a bit less hungry and agitated but thats all.
But if I happen to see a picture of a rolled joint
 
or just smell them budz I'd find it very hard not to smoke some provided there's any available.
I'm not complaining or anything, its not a problem most of the times but I've heard so many times people saying that weed is non-addictive. The most hardcore users I know would get offended if I tell them they're addicted, but if they go without weed for a whole fucking day then they wont stop complaining about it 
it's not addictive. it can be habit forming and you can let it consume your time, but i don't see it being addictive as a possibility unless a user isn't very emotionally developed perhaps
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#14503980 - 05/24/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's total bullshit. I've smoked dank ass pot multiple times a day every day for years and "quit" 'cold turkey' with no problem.
Yeah you have a psychological addiction, so your mind tricks your body into thinking you need it, but you don't.
We aren't talking about a heroin or nicotine or caffeine addiction here, where there are actual physical withdrawal symptoms that suck ass. We are talking about minor fucking inconveniences that are all in your head to begin with.
You can get mentally addicted to fucking anything. I have seen it. Weed is no exception, neither are video games. Marijuana is not physically dependent or physically habit forming. At all. It's all in your head.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: owls]
#14503983 - 05/24/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Technically a habit is an addiction.
It's not addictive in the sense of physically addictive. Your body won't have withdrawals from it the way you would say booze or heroin. You might get a little ornary because you aren't mentally in the same place, but your physical body isn't going to go into conniption fits.
So Yes you can be 'addicted' to it, though that's more to do with how weak or strong of a person you are.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Shroomism]
#14503985 - 05/24/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: That's total bullshit. I've smoked dank ass pot multiple times a day every day for years and "quit" 'cold turkey' with no problem.
Yeah you have a psychological addiction, so your mind tricks your body into thinking you need it, but you don't.
We aren't talking about a heroin or nicotine or caffeine addiction here, where there are actual physical withdrawal symptoms that suck ass. We are talking about minor fucking inconveniences that are all in your head to begin with.
You can get mentally addicted to fucking anything. I have seen it. Weed is no exception, neither are video games. Marijuana is not physically dependent or physically habit forming. At all. It's all in your head.
if someone feels as if they are addicted to weed, they likely have other underlying issues
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Maverick]
#14503992 - 05/24/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maverick said: Technically a habit is an addiction.
It's not addictive in the sense of physically addictive. Your body won't have withdrawals from it the way you would say booze or heroin. You might get a little ornary because you aren't mentally in the same place, but your physical body isn't going to go into conniption fits.
So Yes you can be 'addicted' to it, though that's more to do with how weak or strong of a person you are.
well for me, i could take it or leave and be just as happy with or without it. because i appreciate and respect it for what it is and i appreciate any time without it just as much as i appreciate being able to partake of some beautiful cannabis
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Shroomism] 2
#14503993 - 05/24/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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There are documented physical changes that occur from withdrawal of THC and marijuana. Changes in sleep activity, cannabinoid receptor density etc.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Maverick]
#14503997 - 05/24/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It changes receptor density and metabolic function all over your body and the last time I checked both receptors and metabolism are physical entities. JWH would be a better example though, since its a full agonist of the cannabinoid receptor.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14504001 - 05/24/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Damn badchad beat me to it.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14504004 - 05/24/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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superhigh said: Because they mean physically addictive. You don't go into withdrawal like heroin if you cease use.
uhm no they dont. They mean its totally non-addictive and safe which is bs imo.
When I say it's not addictive I mean physically. Any thing can be mentally addictive and by anything i mean things that are not drugs. Gambling, washing hands, counting to 10 before opening a door, etc...
It's all in the mind, a habit, it's not the weed.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: owls]
#14504006 - 05/24/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes technically we could pussy foot around with semantics and say a mental addiction is similar to a physical one, but it's not. Yes they are connected but try withdrawing from heroin or tobacco and then tell me that weed has a physical dependency, it doesn't. If you get irritated because you don't get high, that's your own damn problem not the lack of weed.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14504009 - 05/24/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: It changes receptor density and metabolic function all over your body and the last time I checked both receptors and metabolism are physical entities. JWH would be a better example though, since its a full agonist of the cannabinoid receptor.
everything is physical on some level when you get down to it. go on an all day everyday weed binge and instead of missing it when you choose to stop, think nothing of it and see how that affects the rebound effects of quitting
teh mind is all powerful man!
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