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mellowparty
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Locky]
#14503045 - 05/24/11 06:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im sure weed is 100% healthy when eaten
Well, you're wrong since you have little to no idea what it does to your endocannabinoid system. Also there are withdrawal symptoms but they are manageable. A lot of people I know feel pretty bad if they go 1 day without smoking.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14503052 - 05/24/11 06:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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endocannabinoid system
Ill look into that
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Locky]
#14503055 - 05/24/11 06:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmmm interesting
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Locky]
#14503060 - 05/24/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14503099 - 05/24/11 06:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well that explains all the fat stoners 
But really, Thats interesting. Cronic use of thc is bad, Its a good thing i dont smoke , or eat brownies daily.....
Now i can see why daily use is not healthy, thanks for that
Edited by Locky (05/24/11 06:46 AM)
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Locky]
#14503149 - 05/24/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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weed is the most addictive drug to me. I have tried them all, but weed is the only one that keeps me coming back again and again. It doesn't make me a lazy fatass, though
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: morrowasted]
#14503160 - 05/24/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love weed and try to smoke it every day. I don't consider myself addicted tho, because I can skip it for a week and it doesn't bother me one bit.
I love coffee and nicotine, but if I skip 12 hours of doing either I freak out and start acting like a crack head. I will not stop until I get some because I feel like shit without it.
Now that's addiction.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Kada]
#14503202 - 05/24/11 07:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kada said: I love weed and try to smoke it every day. I don't consider myself addicted tho, because I can skip it for a week and it doesn't bother me one bit.
I love coffee and nicotine, but if I skip 12 hours of doing either I freak out and start acting like a crack head. I will not stop until I get some because I feel like shit without it.
Now that's addiction.
This. I find it hard to believe anyone that says that marijuana is addictive has ever been physically addicted to a drug.
http://youtu.be/4Vpin9VhNck
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: saxcidjazz]
#14503204 - 05/24/11 07:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have been physically addicted to many drugs, including xanax, alcohol, and opiates. I feel that physical addiction is a tiny component of my drug habit. When I am coming off the drug, it is much easier for me to cope with feeling physically bad, knowing I will soon recover, than it is to cope with the idea of not using again.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: morrowasted]
#14503208 - 05/24/11 07:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am addicted to weed like I'm addicted to taco bell.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14503531 - 05/24/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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some people can develop some seriously chronic weed smoking habits. I've seen a few friends who pretty much couldn't live without weed. couldn't go a few hours without smoking, let alone a whole day without it. and they would get super irritable, pissy and even go into a panic when they ran out of bud and couldn't get in touch with any dealers.
I don't get it though. I love weed but i rarely ever seek it out. i smoke when its around and maybe like 2-4 times a year I'll buy a little bit. Its something i can do with or without.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: BoneMan]
#14503669 - 05/24/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm the same as most daily users, if I have the shit, its getting smoked. Its almost impossible for me to have weed in my possession and go an entire day without using it. I just got some dank last night, but this thread has inspired me to try to abstain from using every single day.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: BoneMan]
#14503708 - 05/24/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't get it. I have physiological symptoms everytime I try to quit. Can't sleep, appetite sucks, cranky...bored lol. I may not be itchin or out robbing people for a fix, but I'm definitely a weed addict.
Don't compare it to being addicted to the internet please. I'm on there every day and can easily step away for a week and not give a shit. That won't happen with sweet jane.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: The Todd]
#14503740 - 05/24/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Try endocannabinoid reuptake inhibitors the next time you get crankey. The easiest one to obtain is paracetamol. Actually it gets conjugated to a long unsaturated hydrocarbon very similar in shape to endocannabinoids and this metabolite blocks the reuptake of stuff like 2-AG etc from the synaptic cleft. Its one of the reasons why paracetamol is an analgesic.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: morrowasted]
#14503774 - 05/24/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: weed is the most addictive drug to me. I have tried them all, but weed is the only one that keeps me coming back again and again. It doesn't make me a lazy fatass, though
Yep, same here.
The only drug I can't control my usage is weed. I can stop popping my X pills before I can stop smoking all my weed.... and that says something for me!
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
#14503792 - 05/24/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: Try endocannabinoid reuptake inhibitors the next time you get crankey. The easiest one to obtain is paracetamol. Actually it gets conjugated to a long unsaturated hydrocarbon very similar in shape to endocannabinoids and this metabolite blocks the reuptake of stuff like 2-AG etc from the synaptic cleft. Its one of the reasons why paracetamol is an analgesic.
Interesting... I just "quit" after 15 years+ of daily wake n bake followed by all-day smoking. I had severe withdrawal, had the shits for about a week, felt too sick to eat and wouldn't have slept without a diazepam script or 2 and plenty of codeine. And booze. Yikes.
Been about 5 weeks now, I've smoked 3 times in that period and now finding it pretty easy to go without and not think about it.
Definitely is addictive though, and withdrawal will vary from individual to individual as with everything. I know it's not as bad as opiate or benzo withdrawal but it's unpleasant enough to make the prospect of quitting a scary/difficult one.
..... But if I can do it anyone can, just takes a lot of effort and/or some kind of replacement for a few days.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: egodeathflux]
#14503806 - 05/24/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anything will create a mental addiction if it provides comfort and nostalgia like weed does for a lot of us who have used it as a coping mechanism in the past (coping with insomnia, anxiety, wanting to relax).
I've smoked weed for years but if i dont have it for 4 days, it's not all that noticeable other than im not high.
If I do Heroin for 4 days then dont have it for 1 day I'm stuck throwing up in the toilet for a day.
I guess it's more accurate to say weed isn't physically addictive.
*if you say differently, consider your personal health and the discomfort you might have because of bad health. Weed could just be masking up these feelings, so when you dont have it you feel the effects of over eating for example.
not saying this IS the reason, but I normally eat unusually sugary food when im high. If you eat donuts all the time and you stop smoking weed and have chest pains...
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: egodeathflux]
#14503809 - 05/24/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive been smoking weed daily for 9 years with some breaks in there,
When I dont smoke do I get cranky and wish I had weed fuck yeah.
I do have trouble sleeping headaches and things for about a week or two.
Well I have trouble sleeping no mater what.
Compare that to detoxing on a greyhood bus from a heroin addiction going from Seattle to Detroit.
I lost around 15 pounds in 7 days and dont think I ate the whole time.
I have an addictive personality and I would rather smoke weed every day.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: trekie]
#14503835 - 05/24/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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weed pretty much gets rid of stress, so a person who smokes all the time isnt going to be used to stressful situations.
Stress can do weird things to your body, including making you lose your appetite and not be able to sleep.
If you learn to properly cope with stress without toking up, perhaps it won't be so bad.
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: s240779]
#14503851 - 05/24/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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superhigh said: Because they mean physically addictive. You don't go into withdrawal like heroin if you cease use.
This is the common argument i hear. Two things that will destroy this argument: Cocaine has no physical withdrawal. The brain is part of your body, therefore any "psychological" drug addiction is a physical addiction.
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