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Dosing and Tolerance Questions...
    #14502816 - 05/24/11 03:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So during the first week of April, me and some friends pooled some money together to get mushrooms. It was extremely fun, but we each only took 1.5, resulting in an excellent body high and slight, slight, slight visuals such as breathing walls. To be honest, just looking down at my arms was a great time. Needless to say, we all enjoyed the effects and decided to try it again down the road.

So we ended up waiting until this last Saturday, the 21st. We got our hands on some goodies that supposedly contained 2 grams of mushys each. The effects were definitely stronger than the last time, but nothing too spectacular. I'm not claiming to be some sort of shroom professional, meaning that I have yet to experience the effects enough to know the ins and outs, but i would definitely say that we each got 20 dollars worth of enjoyment as far as the length of the trip and the way it helped me to think on a deep philosophical level.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has any input on whether or not it would be a good idea to double the dose, lets say, around the 27th. I'm not worried about anything except tolerance. Visuals aren't my goal either, I naturally think about existence, life, death and everything in between, and during the few times I have tried mushrooms, I seem to be able to think twice as deeply into the topic as when sober or high on cannabis. I've read up on other sites, and all of the answers for tolerance vary greatly. From what I understand, it's different for every person and everyone seems to have their own opinion on the perfect time to wait between trips. A lot of what I've read says that if you dose up 2 days in a row, that you should double the dose for the same effects. Will this roughly a week interval make the difference between doubling the dose for the same effects and doubling the dose for greater effects?

I just want to make sure that I won't be wasting my money. I've made this account in order to get the most out of every experience that i have for the rest of my tripping career, I'm sorry if there are similar posts but some answers would be much appreciated.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14502855 - 05/24/11 04:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A one week wait is just fine, you'll trip balls. Oh and yeah, do the 4g. Good vibes to you  :dancingshroom:


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: Abnormal]
    #14502877 - 05/24/11 04:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah man, eat an 8th and you will have no tolerance problems.

tolerance is usually gone in like 3 days to a week


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14502879 - 05/24/11 04:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yo dude in the first few weeks of shroom season in Melbourne i tripped every few days for 2 weeks 6 times, you will be fine for tolerance i didnt really notice any major tolerance and yeah man if you think that you are nice and clear headed on 2 gs go the 4 but remember the more you take the effects keep doubling....2gs=level 2 trip 4gs being a high level 3 8gs would rape your mind level 5 definitely even the fabled climax (complete loss of reality and even the feeling of your own body) for the low tolerance


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: jackus]
    #14502892 - 05/24/11 04:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks guys! I'm definitely fully prepared for a higher level trip, I havent had more than a level 2, but a strong level 3 or a level 4 sounds amazing. I think I'll leave the Level 5 trips to the professionals :p I've had some amazing trips off of salvia, so I don't fear anything more intense than that coming from 4 or 5 grams, but you never know and it lasts a LOT longer. The only real problem is that, since they are covered in chocolate, i have no REAL knowledge of how much is in each ball aside from what my dude tells me.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14502894 - 05/24/11 04:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thats kinda a bummer, you cant get just dry mushrooms?

mushroom chocolates usually have less than people say they have...

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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #14502910 - 05/24/11 05:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I'm definitely going to look around and see if i can find any dry mushrooms, no harm in trying, but as far as i know my connects all go through the same guy. And he just turned his last ounce into these treats on Saturday. Like I said, I'm no professional, the feelings were worth the 20$, but for all i know i could be getting twice as gone for the same price with some dry mushrooms.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14502912 - 05/24/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

$20 is usually 3.5g where i am so you kno...


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #14502920 - 05/24/11 05:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Damn, around here it's 10 a gram and nobody makes exceptions. I need to expand my friend base ahah If i could get shrooms for 25 an 8th, that would be amazing. I would be able to get to the next level without having to drop 40$.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14503042 - 05/24/11 06:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Those prices do seem pretty high... but I say definitely go for the trip, you wont have any residual tolerance from your last trip.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: No Cars Go]
    #14503310 - 05/24/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I usually won't do less than an 8r.  First time was 1.8 but then its been 3.5> ever since.

My next will be 5-6

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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14503472 - 05/24/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

10 a g is standard where im from too.

you should grow your own. its easy.

as for doubling the dose, go for it.

but i dont like to trip in group situations like you probably are.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14503811 - 05/24/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I'm definitely doubling my dose from last time. I would love to grow if I had the time, I'm strongly considering getting a kit. And as for the group aspect, I wouldn't be able to enjoy myself around a lot of people who i don't enjoy. I plan on tripping with the same 2 people as the last 2 times i've done shrooms. Which would also be the same 2 people with me for the last 3 or 4 salvia trips.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14504007 - 05/24/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

kits r failsauce.

we can teach you everything you need to know, over at mush cult :thumbup:


if you have a pressure cooker you can get more mush than you know what to do with.

if not, you can still get more than a kit using BRF cakes.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14504224 - 05/24/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Lol at the prices you guys have to pay.
On Vancouver Island, 15$ per 8th, $5/g


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: Ferris B]
    #14504355 - 05/24/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sucks that clown put em in chocolates, you'll def need to double up.
$20-$25 an 1/8th is standard street pricing...


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14514747 - 05/26/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So I've decided to wait a few more days because I'm guaranteed dry shrooms by tuesday at the latest and i'd much rather wait for dry than buy more chocolates. Supposedly my buddy is getting some "Amazonian" shrooms, which he claims are a lot stronger than the last kinds I've gotten. I'm not going to pretend i know anything about mushrooms outside of my few experiences, so whats the deal with Amazonian?


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14514758 - 05/26/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

click the mushroom strain link in my sig. and show it to your homey, hes got a lot to learn.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14514897 - 05/26/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so basically, he's just trying to make them seem more appealing by slapping a name on it? hahah it makes sense, I meannn, when you tell people that your marijuana has a rad name and that it's more potent, they tend to get a little bit more interested in what you have to say. but thats just how business works. what do you personally think about potency and "strains" when it comes to mushies?


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14514920 - 05/26/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i think what that link i told you to read says.

mushrooms grown from spores will differ in potency even in the same flush on the same subsrate.

you can isolate quite potent strains, but you need agar.

and people who just grow BRF cakes in their moms basements tend not to isolate strains.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14515093 - 05/26/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Regardless of what that thread says, some strains are just much weaker than others. The South American strain is ridiculously weak. Everyone that's grown it has said "whats up with the shit potency" or things of the like.

I do agree potency can vary from batch to batch, but some strains are just weaker than others. Palanque is another vary weak strain, regardless of compost/dung/straw/grain/Cakes. As many times as it's been dealt with it just isn't very potent.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14515113 - 05/26/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

people say the same about B+ and it worked fine for me :P


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14515151 - 05/26/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeahh, I read all the way through the first page. It was an interesting read and i definitely know more than before about mushrooms. But this being said, I still don't know much about mushrooms haha, I'l probably have to read that a few more times to grasp it. Are you saying that there is a good chance he just has some more average shrooms and by saying theyre "amazonian" they sound better?  Or... lol basically, i mean, what do you mean :p


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14515170 - 05/26/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Complaining about 10 a g? It's 50 for an 8th here. :| And I can't order spores either.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14515252 - 05/26/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Complaining about 10 a g? It's 50 for an 8th here. :| And I can't order spores either.




if you have some wild specimens you can clean up a culture on agar.

its not too hard, if you're willing to put in the work.

sounds like it might be worth your while.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14515258 - 05/26/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeahh, I read all the way through the first page. It was an interesting read and i definitely know more than before about mushrooms. But this being said, I still don't know much about mushrooms haha, I'l probably have to read that a few more times to grasp it. Are you saying that there is a good chance he just has some more average shrooms and by saying theyre "amazonian" they sound better?  Or... lol basically, i mean, what do you mean :p




i mean you cant tell how potent a mushroom will be until you eat it.
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unless you have eaten the same isolated strain of that mushroom before.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14515303 - 05/26/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeahh, I read all the way through the first page. It was an interesting read and i definitely know more than before about mushrooms. But this being said, I still don't know much about mushrooms haha, I'l probably have to read that a few more times to grasp it. Are you saying that there is a good chance he just has some more average shrooms and by saying theyre "amazonian" they sound better?  Or... lol basically, i mean, what do you mean :p




i mean you cant tell how potent a mushroom will be until you eat it.
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unless you have eaten the same isolated strain of that mushroom before.




alright, we're on the same page now ahah I guess I'll just have to wait and find out, I'l be sure to post how it goes!


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: kegan]
    #14515454 - 05/26/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

dont get butt raped by a crazy price. i was paying 30 per 1/8 here for a while. then i found a new guy that did ounces for 90 bucks. talk about a huge difference.

unfortunately i moved and dont have a good connection anymore, but what im trying to say is, be like your mom, and shop around lol.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14515779 - 05/26/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Complaining about 10 a g? It's 50 for an 8th here. :| And I can't order spores either.




if you have some wild specimens you can clean up a culture on agar.

its not too hard, if you're willing to put in the work.

sounds like it might be worth your while.



That's what I was planning on doing. But I don't have a wild specimen yet. And I'd have to find a good hiding spot, due to my roommates. lol


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14516978 - 05/26/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its a no go then.

wait until you have a proper setup.

clean agar work is NOT stealth, in the least.


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: k00laid]
    #14517795 - 05/26/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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its a no go then.

wait until you have a proper setup.

clean agar work is NOT stealth, in the least.



Unless it's at someone else's place. :wink:


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Re: Dosing and Tolerance Questions... [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14535223 - 05/30/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So last night i munched down 2.5, about an hour in i started to notice the differences. Everything was moving, colors were looking different, so i ate another 1.5 and everything got GREAT ahah

i decided to lay outside watching the clouds for about a half hour. It was awesome because i was literally seeing things in the clouds while they moved, i was seeing dragons and demons and faces. It was crazy,  so then i went inside and layed on the couch, staring at the ceiling which has like, a weird texture to it, the dots on the ceiling started moving and i could make out different animals and devils dancing around. I then decided to lay there with my eyes closed and i literally went into my own little world, like, i was exploring this dark area but there were colors and when i thought about things, i would see an infinite number of it, if that makes sense... Like, i realized my mouth was wide open and i started to see heads with mouths open, the next head coming out of each mouth. I can't really explain it, but it doesn't really matter because I experienced it and thats all that matters ahah.

But basically, as opposed to my last few times, i couldn't think really well. Like, the last few times were insightful and awesome. This time, it was still awesome, but i was literally living in the moment ahah no thoughts of death or anxiety in the slightest. I just felt like a happy little kid, enjoying doing nothing but laughing and using my imagination.

The real big thing for me this time around, is that I think I've come to terms with the fact that everything just is. Like, i usually like to try and figure things out, but theres no point. Religion is for people who are unsure about life but don't want to learn more, science is for people who are people who are unsure and want nothing more than to learn. I personally now feel like both science and religion are  both just there ahah. Like, we can look into everything as much as humanly possible, but when it comes down to it, everything just is. People just are. Life just is. The universe just is.

I think life is going to be a lot better for me now that I'm looking at it from this perspective, but at the same time, it could go away in the next few days ahah. Oh well, awesome experience, going for 5 next weekend.


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