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Offlinebholzer
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Does heat REALLY destroy LSA?
    #14501750 - 05/23/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Everyone always talks about how LSA is destroyed by heat and light. I'm not too sure how much I buy into this. Everyone also says that psilocybin is destroyed by heat, but it isn't true. Just spreads by word of mouth.

I'm curious because I want to try making a tea to see if it works. If it doesn't, it's not like I'm losing anything. I'll be paying ten bucks to make a psychedelic tea, or to prove that LSA is in fact destroyed by simmering temperatures.

Has anyone already tried this with definite results?


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Re: Does heat REALLY destroy LSA? [Re: bholzer]
    #14502426 - 05/24/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

no experience testing with this as both of my water extraction method, one using only cold water and the other using warm/hot water with tea bags were both not really methods in which id recommend. but i look forward in hearing your results!

i've read of two methods of consuming them the cwe and then there is plain o'l gobbling down powdered seeds, and i gotta say gobbling down is a lot more effective

exp: grounded up 10 grams and put it in yogort, but could only finesh 75% off it because of the foul taste, but it was enough to have a pretty immersive trip visually/mentally.


i've read of good reports of isopropyl alcohol extract aswell and would like to hear some reports ... if someone can chime in that would be great

heres detail of the simple iso extract:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=72137

i've tried the CWE and from experience, its not nearly as intense as the gobbling up method. so even if LSA werent destroyed by heat, I'm not sure i would suggest such a method.


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Re: Does heat REALLY destroy LSA? [Re: 1a4]
    #14502634 - 05/24/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've experimented with a bunch of doses of extracted LSA (HBWR, Naptha, then Everclear ethanol)

I've only tried to expose it to heat once, and that was when i added it to some peppermint tea.  When i started pouring in my 10mL dose, the water was still above 172degrees F (the boiling point of ethanol).  When added, the tincture immediately boiled, and i quickly saw that was a bad idea.  I waited a while for it to cool off a bit, and added the rest (probably 8 of the original 10mL) of the ethanol.  When i added the majority of the tincture, it was still about too warm to drink comfortably.


In the end, i noticed a definite loss in potency.  However, this was one of the few times I could say there was no nausea and uncomfortable come-up.  (two reasons for this  1) because of the heat of the tea, mostly all of the alcohol evaporated out of the hot water, and left the best tasting LSA.  Unlike a shot of everclear, this made it really smooth on the stomach 2)a lower dose means less nausea)


I don't know at what point heat destroys the LSA, but I'd say if you try it it won't destroy ALL of the LSA. 

I know you're curious to see how stable it is... but in the end, we all already know the answer.  Yes, heat destroys LSA, how much?  we don't know, but you're not going to get a definite answer from a home experiment.


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