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Icelander
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Icelander said: If you think really hard about it, you are the only true conscious entity that exists.
Not when I think hard. Maybe you meant hardly. When I think hard about it I think life goes far beyond me. Just because I "may possibly" be the only conscious entity that exists that does not change the fact that there seems to be much evidence that this is not so.
I pulled two ticks off my body today after a hike. Quite likely they were alive and real in the sense that material things are real.
yeah but you can only see and feel the ticks because your mind permits you to do so.
So, that does not mean the ticks aren't real.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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"yeah but you can only see and feel the ticks because your mind permits you to do so. "
What permits your mind to do so?
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xFrockx


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Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.
Desiring to show his attainment, he said: "The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no relaization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received."
Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.
"If nothing exists," inquired Dokuon, "where did this anger come from?"
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xFrockx


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What permits consciousness to do so?
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Poid
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Oh..what does my lack of imagination have to do with this discussion, though?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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xFrockx


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"consciousness is. there must be awakeness because we cant be nothing. "
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-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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"it just does.. like i said.. it is. consciousness is. nothing permits it. its just there. awakeness "
How do you know that nothing permits it to exist?
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A dam permits a certain amount of water to pass it at a certain rate..do you think dams are conscious?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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ill show you a dam 
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xFrockx


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"because in order for something to permit something to exist, it must be conscious. "
How do you know that?
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HigherConsciousnes said: Life is based on benevolence. We all wish good things on ourselves and sometimes others. There is no god. Only our will. Our choices and our reactions to those choices.
Our will? You sure about that?
What if your will is the result of someone elses will?
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xFrockx


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"because if your not conscious then you are nothing. so you must be conscious to do anything "
How do you know that if you aren't consciousness you are nothing, if you have never been anything but conscious?
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