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jwalt420
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cobweb? looks fluffy? pics
#14501241 - 05/23/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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  Is this first jar cobweb mold? Every other jar is looking good but that first jar on the left looks fluffy white with 2 big black spots? Any help?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14501267 - 05/23/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its tough for me to tell, is it the same color white as the other jars or is it more grey?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: ecto1]
#14501294 - 05/23/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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same color but looks really fluffy here is another pic see those spots? looks really wet too? any help?
Edited by jwalt420 (05/23/11 09:18 PM)
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14501408 - 05/23/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats not cobweb .
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501427 - 05/23/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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what u think it is dosnt look like other jars..
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14501440 - 05/23/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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honestly think thats myc. but i might be wrong.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14501457 - 05/23/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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looks like myc sometimes it grows like that .
were spores used to inoculate?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501467 - 05/23/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes pes Hawaiians
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: ShadowHagi]
#14501468 - 05/23/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks fine. I've had that before, just not as rhizomorphic as the other ones. I think (not sure) it's the better genetics that produce a very rhizomorphic mycellium. I read that somewhere but a lot of sides to every theory.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14501472 - 05/23/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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your jars are fine
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501485 - 05/23/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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it's the better genetics that produce a very rhizomorphic mycellium.
No, poor nutrition makes myc rizo.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501496 - 05/23/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok good to know, thanks.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501506 - 05/23/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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hows that? brf is very nutritious i am a newb at this my first sgfc grow
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: OneU]
#14501512 - 05/23/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a bit old but cool post:
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RogerRabbit said: I've made numerous transfers of cottony mycelium and it stayed cottony. I've made numerous transfers of rhizomorphic mycelium and it stayed rhizomorphic. I believe there's more involved than we currently know. I have many strains that I've isolated down to single sector rhizomorphs, and these remain rhizomorphic even years later when removed from the refrigerator and transferred to new substrates. I think a lot of confusion comes from ceasing to make transfers before getting down to single sector isolates, thus the process of anastomosis is still occurring which would explain the mycelium changing to different types.
I've found a difference in appearance based on the nutritive substance in the growing medium, with the strands much closer together when highly nutritive media was used, and the strands spread out more when lesser nutritive media was used, but they're still rhizomorphs when viewed under the microscope, even if they don't look so to the unaided eye.
I've attempted to fruit completely cottony isolates and the results were also the same every time. Either they didn't fruit at all, or fruited poorly. Rhizomorphic isolates have almost always produced nice fruitings with only one or two exceptions out of hundreds. I go through about 500 petri dishes per month, so believe me when I say I've repeated these experiments many times over. RR
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: OneU]
#14501515 - 05/23/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks fine, add more perlite (looks like 2-3 inches, add 2 more) and I'm not sure but is that 2 inch spacing and 1/4" holes? Looks like less spacing. And take the towel off of the bottom to allow the air flow to hit the holes on the bottom and you're good to go. Holes on the bottom are for allowing the perlite moisture to better evaporate.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: OneU]
#14501533 - 05/23/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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WOW thnks..only 1 jar out of 48 has this growth soo cool had to throw out 4 jars had black spots on top of jar gray fuzz on spots..looks like ill have a good next few months...lol thnks all...
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: OneU]
#14501539 - 05/23/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OneU said: This is a bit old but cool post:
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RogerRabbit said: I've made numerous transfers of cottony mycelium and it stayed cottony. I've made numerous transfers of rhizomorphic mycelium and it stayed rhizomorphic. I believe there's more involved than we currently know. I have many strains that I've isolated down to single sector rhizomorphs, and these remain rhizomorphic even years later when removed from the refrigerator and transferred to new substrates. I think a lot of confusion comes from ceasing to make transfers before getting down to single sector isolates, thus the process of anastomosis is still occurring which would explain the mycelium changing to different types.
I've found a difference in appearance based on the nutritive substance in the growing medium, with the strands much closer together when highly nutritive media was used, and the strands spread out more when lesser nutritive media was used, but they're still rhizomorphs when viewed under the microscope, even if they don't look so to the unaided eye.
I've attempted to fruit completely cottony isolates and the results were also the same every time. Either they didn't fruit at all, or fruited poorly. Rhizomorphic isolates have almost always produced nice fruitings with only one or two exceptions out of hundreds. I go through about 500 petri dishes per month, so believe me when I say I've repeated these experiments many times over. RR
Rhizomorphic mycelium isn't genetic. It's a trait, and you can stimulate it to grow with a weak media solution.
Transfer all sectors until they're isolated and then grow each one for testing. RR
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501567 - 05/23/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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it's the better genetics that produce a very rhizomorphic mycellium.
No, poor nutrition makes myc rizo.
What would your explaination be to two jars of rye berries,one goes rhizo one remains fluffy
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: OneU]
#14501580 - 05/23/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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http:// http:// Here are new pics think it need more work?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501585 - 05/23/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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eLShaMukO said:
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OneU said: This is a bit old but cool post:
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RogerRabbit said: I've made numerous transfers of cottony mycelium and it stayed cottony. I've made numerous transfers of rhizomorphic mycelium and it stayed rhizomorphic. I believe there's more involved than we currently know. I have many strains that I've isolated down to single sector rhizomorphs, and these remain rhizomorphic even years later when removed from the refrigerator and transferred to new substrates. I think a lot of confusion comes from ceasing to make transfers before getting down to single sector isolates, thus the process of anastomosis is still occurring which would explain the mycelium changing to different types.
I've found a difference in appearance based on the nutritive substance in the growing medium, with the strands much closer together when highly nutritive media was used, and the strands spread out more when lesser nutritive media was used, but they're still rhizomorphs when viewed under the microscope, even if they don't look so to the unaided eye.
I've attempted to fruit completely cottony isolates and the results were also the same every time. Either they didn't fruit at all, or fruited poorly. Rhizomorphic isolates have almost always produced nice fruitings with only one or two exceptions out of hundreds. I go through about 500 petri dishes per month, so believe me when I say I've repeated these experiments many times over. RR
Rhizomorphic mycelium isn't genetic. It's a trait, and you can stimulate it to grow with a weak media solution.
Transfer all sectors until they're isolated and then grow each one for testing. RR
Huh?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: steelmonkey]
#14501613 - 05/23/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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eLShaMukO said:
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it's the better genetics that produce a very rhizomorphic mycellium.
No, poor nutrition makes myc rizo.
What would your explaination be to two jars of rye berries,one goes rhizo one remains fluffy
the mycelium reaching for nutrients
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501637 - 05/23/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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But the're identical nutrients,a rye berrie is a rye berrie
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: anonjon]
#14501638 - 05/23/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i notice that the karr style jars colonize faster then the ball jars. lol the size difference both are pints wierd
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14501719 - 05/23/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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steelmonkey said: But the're identical nutrients,a rye berrie is a rye berrie
no body said there were diffrent nutrients
do all rye berrys have the same nutritional content ? small seeds and mature seeds ? the only way to know that is to test seed by seed
its not something i invented like you guys,i also read RR notes.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14501776 - 05/23/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That was meant in plural and I just can't buy that a cup of rye berries would differ in so much nutritinal value that it would cause one jar to go rhyzo for lack of sufficient nutrients while the other remained fine.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: steelmonkey]
#14501822 - 05/23/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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But let me get this right were going off things RR has said 1., and 2."Rhizomorphic isolates have almost always produced nice fruitings with only one or two exceptions out of hundreds" 3. "I've made numerous transfers of cottony mycelium and it stayed cottony. I've made numerous transfers of rhizomorphic mycelium and it stayed rhizomorphic." so couldn't 4. its safe to assume to some degree it is genetics?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: ShadowHagi]
#14501843 - 05/23/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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IMO yes its genetics but el shamuko has a point to a degree that myc will stretch out looking for nutients you just have to look at their enviroment and discern which of those it is,genetics or nutrient lacking
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: steelmonkey]
#14501965 - 05/23/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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http:// OK!! the jar on the left is 4 1/2 weeks old will probly turn to sht..the jar on the rite is 3 weeks old will be fine.. i have 6 jars that are 90% colonized same age as first jar in pic ..thats why i thought it was mold but ill let it goo and see if it stalls.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14501990 - 05/23/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think its just stalled,if it was cobweb it would overtake the whole jar in no time,try taking the tape off for a bit or better yet depending on what size hole is under the tape stuff it loosly with poly
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: steelmonkey]
#14502013 - 05/23/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah its Cotton myc it wont grow i thnk ill mix it with hpoo hay i have 6 horses hehehe bulk sum day.!! p.s beer goood..
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: steelmonkey]
#14502018 - 05/23/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Take off tape covering the holes for better gas exchange if you have a barrier of dry verm will be fine and should promote growth.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: ShadowHagi]
#14502024 - 05/23/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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really 4 half weeks old will be good still?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14502066 - 05/23/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It can't hurt to try,its just sitting there anyway right? is the hole big enough to stuff with a bit of poly?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: steelmonkey]
#14503640 - 05/24/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The jar to the left either looks too packed or contam'd. Why is there some random splotches of mycellium on the bottom? Did you inject against the glass or kind of in the substrate?
Also, your FC still needs a bit more perlite man. Make sure it has 4-5 inches but don't put it in yet because it's losing it's moisture content and you'll have to moisturize it mid fruiting.
Another note, that lid isn't doing any good because it's still blocking air flow to the majority of the holes on the bottom. If you have a few bricks, put two under each or take the towel off if it the rack has holes under it.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: OneU]
#14504562 - 05/24/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok thanks again ill do that i have sum bricks that jar on the left has two black spots im going to toss it out i still have 48 good 1s..
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14505296 - 05/24/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Make sure they are black and actual spots. Sometimes when it colonizes and packs the substrate, the verm from the barrier above sprinkles down and looks like little spots. I've almost gotten carried away a few times when I saw them.
48 is a great number, nice. Are you going to stack the cakes or fit them all side by side in that FC?
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: OneU]
#14514850 - 05/26/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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side by side its my first grow.. ill do hpoo next..ill keep up with pics throughout grow.
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14514930 - 05/26/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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http:// http:// ALMOST there lol
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: jwalt420]
#14515138 - 05/26/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you could use some more perlite in those FCs. i know it sounds goofy to have 4-6 inches (WHY so much?!) but you will see considerably more stable humidity levels once you start fanning all the time.
i mean, ANYONE can make a set up to be 100 RH, but once you start exchanging airs and such, that shits gonna drop. oh, and a thin(ner) layer of perlite will dry out SUPER QUICK, even without fanning.
p.s. thats not cobweb, you're fine. i know thats already been addressed, but i like to type.
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Plus it looks like you need more holes drilled
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Re: cobweb? looks fluffy? pics [Re: steelmonkey]
#14515583 - 05/26/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah Cant say too early but I think it looks good holes in the FC an you should be good to go.
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