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California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population
    #14500821 - 05/23/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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http://www.npr.org/2011/05/23/136579580/california-is-ordered-to-cut-its-prison-population

The Supreme Court on Monday endorsed a court order requiring California to cut its prison population by tens of thousands of inmates to improve health care for those who remain behind bars.

The court said in a 5-4 decision that the reduction is "required by the Constitution" to correct longstanding violations of inmates' rights. The order mandates a prison population of no more than 110,000 inmates, still far above the system's designed capacity.

There are more than 142,000 inmates in the state's 33 adult prisons, meaning roughly 32,000 inmates will need to be transferred to other jurisdictions or released.

Justice Anthony Kennedy, a California native, wrote the majority opinion, in which he included photos of severe overcrowding. The court's four Democratic appointees joined with Kennedy.

"The violations have persisted for years. They remain uncorrected," Kennedy said.

Justice Antonin Scalia said in dissent that the court order is "perhaps the most radical injunction issued by a court in our nation's history."

Scalia, reading his dissent aloud Monday, said it would require the release of "the staggering number of 46,000 convicted felons."

Scalia's number, cited in legal filings, comes from a period in which the prison population was even higher.

Justice Clarence Thomas joined Scalia's opinion, while Justice Samuel Alito wrote a separate dissent for himself and Chief Justice John Roberts.

The case revolves around inadequate mental and physical health care in a state prison system that in 2009 averaged nearly a death a week that might have been prevented or delayed with better medical care.

The facilities were designed to hold about 80,000 inmates.

The state has protested a court order to cut the population cut to around 110,000 inmates within two years, but also has taken steps to meet, if not exceed, that target.

Earlier this year, Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill that would reduce the prison population by about 40,000 inmates by transferring many low-level offenders to county jurisdiction. The state legislature has yet to authorize any money for the transfer.

Kennedy said the state could ask for the court order to be modified to allow for up to three additional years to reach the 110,000-inmate target.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: batman returns]
    #14500937 - 05/23/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: batman returns]
    #14500942 - 05/23/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And a good place to start cutting inmates would be the non-violent drug offenders.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14501830 - 05/23/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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And a good place to start cutting inmates would be the non-violent drug offenders.




Agrees.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: shopdropper]
    #14501839 - 05/23/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

scalia is ass backward, i think the ruling that cops dont need a warrant to come into our homes is the most radical ruling of the supreme court, just die already scalia.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14501876 - 05/23/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That Scalia is a card carrying fascist. Most of the court is no prize, but he's got to be the worst.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14501883 - 05/23/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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5-HT2A said:
That Scalia is a card carrying fascist. Most of the court is no prize, but he's got to be the worst.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14501902 - 05/23/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure Chief Justice Roberts had a hand in the warrant-less searches ruling too. He's a real super-conservative too.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14501937 - 05/23/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm sure Chief Justice Roberts had a hand in the warrant-less searches ruling too. He's a real super-conservative too.



theyre both pretty douchey:thumbdown:


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14503050 - 05/24/11 06:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You elect the people that appoint the justices.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14503212 - 05/24/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
And a good place to start cutting inmates would be the non-violent drug offenders.




Thats the complete opposite of what they tend to do, and what they WILL do. Often you hear they on purpose release the most violent and notorious ones to menace society and step up their police state game :rolleyes:


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: lasdR]
    #14503278 - 05/24/11 08:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So true.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
    #14504012 - 05/24/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You might as well accept it, the US is quite succesfully mind enslaved by a group of idiots who are leading your country into destruction, and the few people who actually value their minds are not enough to do shit about it and are totally overpowered by the enslaved fattened masses who do not even know what a mind is and would not want to risk their factory farmed life style in order to try to free one . the US governemnt is based on mind slavery and has been for a long time and the people are mind enslaved and therefor won´t do shit about it until the governemnt critical failure wich has already taken place starts threatening to discontinue the ability to mantain the mindless materialist lifestyle . those of you who want to free your minds had either be smart about your personal war to free your minds and not get caught, or be lucky , or get thrown in jail, or leave and go to a freeer country .

    Also keep in mind that even those of us who fancy ourselves as free minds are so saturated with the cultural bullshit which are the chains of mind slavery that it will take a lot of time and work spent in different perspectives to rid us of our chains. The mind slavery goes deeper than you realise and is more corrupt and evil than you can imagine and all that is simply the way of the world and the nature of man. we are really a shitty species badly in need oof evolving into a better form of life, we are likely to cause our own extinction wich putrs us on a very exlusive list of some of the very stupidest species to walk the earth and remeber that because the survival of your very species is at stake as we continously allow these corrupt powers to make the stupidest decisions with the power we give them But the average man does not value the survival of his own species above his own material lifestyle, and ecample of how stupid we really are . 
   
  Freedom is not something any government can give or take away it is something one has to find for themselves, and you already know how in some part of your mind that is burried beneath everything we think It was the art of the slavers to hide it so well . Jesus said anyone can do what he did and it is true! But imagine a world full of empowered people. there would be no need for corrupt greedy idiots to tell everyone what to think and do anymore and there is the reason behind the mind slavery the corrupt greedy idiots are too stupid to free their minds and too addicted to power to let others free their minds . the government is no longer for the benifit of the people but for the benifit of the people who have material power .

  I guess the point is the current is too powerful for one to overcome if one needs to convince others to overcome it too. Only one dedicated to freeing themself could possibly get free, and only one already free can help others free themselves . Is their a solution? well I say that some people who try to free their minds sucede
bullshit the point is that I got pissed off and had to write something !


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
    #14504184 - 05/24/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Admiral Ackbar said:
You elect the people that appoint the justices.




Well Bush appointed these guys and I damned sure didn't vote for him.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14505063 - 05/24/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Freedom is not something any government can give or take away it is something one has to find for themselves,




Spoken like one that knows oneself.


Edit: Er I just noticed you're from Iquitos; lemmie try that again:

Hablado como un quien se conoce.


Or maybe "quien conoce su mismo"?


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
    #14506394 - 05/24/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Admiral Ackbar said:
You elect the people that appoint the justices.




really...:rolleyes:
Is that how that works?:facepalm:


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #14511023 - 05/25/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Lennybernadino said:
You might as well accept it, the US is quite succesfully mind enslaved by a group of idiots who are leading your country into destruction, and the few people who actually value their minds are not enough to do shit about it and are totally overpowered by the enslaved fattened masses who do not even know what a mind is and would not want to risk their factory farmed life style in order to try to free one . the US governemnt is based on mind slavery and has been for a long time and the people are mind enslaved and therefor won´t do shit about it until the governemnt critical failure wich has already taken place starts threatening to discontinue the ability to mantain the mindless materialist lifestyle . those of you who want to free your minds had either be smart about your personal war to free your minds and not get caught, or be lucky , or get thrown in jail, or leave and go to a freeer country .

    Also keep in mind that even those of us who fancy ourselves as free minds are so saturated with the cultural bullshit which are the chains of mind slavery that it will take a lot of time and work spent in different perspectives to rid us of our chains. The mind slavery goes deeper than you realise and is more corrupt and evil than you can imagine and all that is simply the way of the world and the nature of man. we are really a shitty species badly in need oof evolving into a better form of life, we are likely to cause our own extinction wich putrs us on a very exlusive list of some of the very stupidest species to walk the earth and remeber that because the survival of your very species is at stake as we continously allow these corrupt powers to make the stupidest decisions with the power we give them But the average man does not value the survival of his own species above his own material lifestyle, and ecample of how stupid we really are . 
   
  Freedom is not something any government can give or take away it is something one has to find for themselves, and you already know how in some part of your mind that is burried beneath everything we think It was the art of the slavers to hide it so well . Jesus said anyone can do what he did and it is true! But imagine a world full of empowered people. there would be no need for corrupt greedy idiots to tell everyone what to think and do anymore and there is the reason behind the mind slavery the corrupt greedy idiots are too stupid to free their minds and too addicted to power to let others free their minds . the government is no longer for the benifit of the people but for the benifit of the people who have material power .

  I guess the point is the current is too powerful for one to overcome if one needs to convince others to overcome it too. Only one dedicated to freeing themself could possibly get free, and only one already free can help others free themselves . Is their a solution? well I say that some people who try to free their minds sucede
bullshit the point is that I got pissed off and had to write something !




Government can and does take physical freedom. When you free your mind you take actions to stop the brainwashing such as militarism, the drug war and oppression.

You are right about there being many brainwashed people but I would say that those may be the minority who are willing to do anything to get a pay check. It's a hard number to quantify to be sure but there is a significant amount of people who are willing to fight.

For you to say we should retreat or surrender is a terrible message and I stand against you when you say that. The just minority who opposes imperialist wars, the drug war and all other kinds of abuses, torture and oppression must consolidate, stand firm, agitate and grow.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
    #14511036 - 05/25/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Admiral Ackbar said:
You elect the people that appoint the justices.




Well first off the political system is a bought and paid for game. Second, I think what you says is true which is why I do not vote for Republicans or Democrats.

Do you vote for the people who oppress you and slaughter others?


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: dondoodle]
    #14511545 - 05/25/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So it is a good thing to release thousands of potentially violent prisoners? The ACLU are a bunch of communist rats and I'm sure glad I don't live in CA.

I'm really at a lose as to how any of you think this is a good thing. What, do you think everyone in prison is somehow oppressed? Wronged? Do you not think most of those in prison deserve to be there? Have you seen the treatment people get in modern prisons? They are treated much better than they deserve; it's like a joke.

Tell me: when you find yourself on the wrong end of a mugging, who are you going to call? The cops or the ACLU? If your sister or wife found themselves on the wrong end of a sexual assault; again: cops or ACLU? The ACLU would provide a top notch lawyer free of charge for the raping scumbag and call you a racist for wanting to see him rot in prison.


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Re: California Is Ordered To Cut Its Prison Population [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14512709 - 05/25/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
And a good place to start cutting inmates would be the non-violent drug offenders.





I heard MR. TOOL It's For The Children O'reilly arguing the other night that 'dangerous drug addicts were going to be released and crime would skyrocket' or some nonsense like that.... 


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