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GroboClone
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Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink)
#14499723 - 05/23/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm doing a side-by-side grow of all the Oyster cultures available from Ralphster's Spores, except for the rare and endangered Funcia di basilisc (Pleurotus nebrodensis).
Blue (Pleurotus columbinus) Golden (Pleurotus citrinopileatus) Grey (Pleurotus ostreatus) King (Pleurotus eryngii) Pearl (Pleurotus ostreatus) Phoenix (Pleurotus pulmonarius) Pink (Pleurotus djamor)
I received two packages form Ralph_Edibles. The first contained King, Pearl and Golden Oyster liquid culture syringes. The second had Blue, Phoenix and Grey Oyster on agar along with a Pink Oyster syringe. The first package was transfered to agar on 11.05.11, the second three days later on 14.05.11. I also cloned the biggest mushroom form my last grow, weighing in at over 8 oz. The rye jars were inoculated on 16.05.11 and 17.05.11.
 
Agar
18.05.11 - The advantage of agar wedges over liquid culture is more apparent than differences between species. The Golden Oyster plates shows no signs of life.
23.05.11 - All plates are ready to be transfered, except the Golden which still shows no growth.
 
Rye
18.05.11 - The agar wedges have started to recover and grow into the grain.
23.05.11 - A week in and the agar wedge jars show strong growth. The Pink Oyster LC is also doing very well. The Golden, King and Pearl LC's are slower but growing.
 
The plates will be used to make master slants along with more grain jars. Out of the grain jars that are colonizing right now, one of each species will be saved to be used as a master for g2g while the other five will be used to make straw logs.
Edited by GroboClone (05/23/11 03:47 PM)
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: GroboClone]
#14499988 - 05/23/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: fungus_tao]
#14500255 - 05/23/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great work! This is going to be really interesting!
One thing though, if you clone a mushroom grown from an isolate, don't you just get the same isolated strain but further from it's origin?
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: solarity]
#14500438 - 05/23/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What are the white caps on top of the jars?
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: solarity]
#14500622 - 05/23/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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solarity said: Great work! This is going to be really interesting!
One thing though, if you clone a mushroom grown from an isolate, don't you just get the same isolated strain but further from it's origin?
Yes.
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: MonkeyKnifeFight]
#14500875 - 05/23/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: RogueTrippeR]
#14502870 - 05/24/11 04:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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 super cool!
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Edited by aris (05/28/11 08:29 AM)
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: aris]
#14503237 - 05/24/11 07:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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looks like an amazing grow! Cant wait for this to develop, good luck and keep us posted!
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) *DELETED* [Re: FractalXplora]
#14503415 - 05/24/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: flameclown]
#14504311 - 05/24/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Loving it; I'll be tuned in m8.
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: Humility]
#14504351 - 05/24/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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GroboClone
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: flameclown]
#14504917 - 05/24/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr.T said: What are the white caps on top of the jars?
Just your standard synthetic filter discs.
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flameclown said: What are the temps like in your fc? I know the phoenix oysters are temperature tolerant, but some of the others might make super small fruits since it's almost summer.
My fruiting room is in my basement and totally climate controlled. I can dial the temperature and humidity to suit the species.I am also building another room in my garage that would be more suitable for the temperature tolerant varieties.
Running seven types of oyster will probably be a one time thing. I'm going to try them all out and pick maybe two or three that perform the best.
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: GroboClone]
#14505391 - 05/24/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: GroboClone]
#14505486 - 05/24/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you plan on expanding each of the 7 to a variety to see if you get varied performance?
Actually, what's the aim? Aesthetic? Shelf life? taste? Yield? Speed to fruiting? Or just noting each so later you can choose horses for courses?
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: GroboClone]
#14505767 - 05/24/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea my ralph golden oyster is slower than my blue and pink. The gold is growing clumpy little cabbages not so fuzzy yet...
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GroboClone
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: NSF]
#14505832 - 05/24/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, all 7 will be expanded and fruited. I have enough room right now to do 16 logs at a time.
I'm currently selling my mushrooms to restaurants and markets. Next month I will be starting to sell at farmers' markets too. I've had a lot of customers ask for more variety, right now I'm only growing Pearl Oysters.
I'm looking for a mushroom that balances its attributes while remaining profitable. Eventually I would like to have a mushroom with high yield and good shelf life to make up the bulk of production with some more exotic varieties thrown in every once in a while to keep up interest.
To tell you the truth I never expected to be growing out 7 cultures at once. I was talking to Ralph_Edibles about trying out some different Oysters and this is what showed up. I think I'll manage though
Edited by GroboClone (05/24/11 07:58 PM)
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: GroboClone]
#14506360 - 05/24/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lookin good Grobo! I have grown all seven of those but never at the same time. Good luck and as I told you before the blue is my favorite for speed and yield, King are second and Phy are looking like they will be my new favorite soon. I have blocks of Phy that are fruiting outdoors and it is over 100f where I live. Ralph_E
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: GroboClone]
#14506533 - 05/24/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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My bad, i left the word substrate out of my previous post.
Will you be fruiting the seven to say 3 different substrate mixes, to see whether each strain performs differently not just under your conditions but with differing substrate to digest?
I really like your idea about variety to maintain interest too. Small doses of 'new' strains can be sold at a higher premium price. Just tell people they are more rare 
Looking at your fruiting room...how do you keep the pladtic in place? Just staple it to timber and not worry about the holes? Running cables into the room for lighting and such...how do you do that? Or lights are outside the plastic?
I'm really going to have to get under my decking, measure it all up and start to plan the grow room set up. I was thinking panda film but considering lighting i probably want a clear plastic ceiling with lights above it. Sorry, thinking out loud.
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: NSF]
#14506703 - 05/24/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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For substrate I'm starting off with the standard wheat straw to get a base line. I'm going to experiment with different ratios of straw, soy hulls, spent coffee grounds and chaff.
The walls in my room are concrete so the plastic is just attached to the ceiling and taped to the vinyl floor, it just hangs between the two. It works pretty good but it would be better if it was attached to the walls.
I find the best thing to secure panda plastic is drywall screws with plastic washers. I just cut up pop bottles or something similar to use as washers. Then I use some waterproof tape to seal it up. A little bit of waterproof tape seals up holes for cables and such, but it's probably not needed.
I used some poly tubing to make waterproof enclosures for my lights. Your idea for recessed lights and clear ceiling sounds better though.
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GroboClone
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Re: Oyster Grow-Off (Blue, Golden, Grey, King, Pearl, Pheonix, Pink) [Re: GroboClone]
#14522247 - 05/27/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Grain Colonization Speed:
Blue > Phoenix, Grey, Pink > Golden > King, Pearl
The Blue Oyster is the clear winner for colonization speed. It colonized the rye in 10 days at 70-75 °F (21-24 °C)
  
I've been busy expanding grain jars. My total now sits at 100.
Blue: 18 Golden: 12 Grey: 18 King: 18 Pearl: 4 Phoenix: 18 Pink: 12
Edited by GroboClone (05/27/11 05:43 PM)
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