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My first grow info/pics of progress
    #14498850 - 05/23/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok well to begin with i read for about a month or 2 before i attempted. This is done with a pf tek verm/brf/organic rye flour mix. The mix was not suggested since it was probably 2 cups verm for 1~1.5 cup brf/rye. Its been a week since in inocued. I accidentaly used a bit too much cc's around 2 for a jar. Finally removed my tin foil and started to expose to sunlight for 5 mins daily. started talking to my babies got the idea from people that worked with plants talking to them had noticeable changes from talking to the plants/playing music. Figured why not.

I am still unsure if this is exactly myc or not so some help would be great. If its not then i probably know why my sterilization methods used would be called questionable to say the least. I can put more into this if asked otherwise i just learned a bit. Otherwise ill keep you updated and thanks for the help. Any questions feel free to ask.

Heres some pics and if these are myc AWESOME




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    #14498858 - 05/23/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: john6886] * 1
    #14498927 - 05/23/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

is it just me... or do those glasses of substrate look to have NO LID!!!!


broski, contamination waiting to happen.

besides the fact that your substrate will be dry in a day or so, and your mycelium will die :/


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: k00laid]
    #14498957 - 05/23/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah it looks like myc, but whats good with that lid?
Get some mason jars friend.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: k00laid]
    #14498965 - 05/23/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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is it just me... or do those glasses of substrate look to have NO LID!!!!


broski, contamination waiting to happen.

besides the fact that your substrate will be dry in a day or so, and your mycelium will die :/



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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: john6886]
    #14499018 - 05/23/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah i got some but their pints. thats why i kept the tin foil on so long those are just glasses. But honestly i don't think their gonna dry that quick their putting out a lot of condensation for being dry. I will move to half pint jars next then mycro bags.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14499050 - 05/23/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

wait i don't get it, so you really don't have lids on them?


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14499069 - 05/23/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No i took them off after about 5 days and put them back on every so often with tin foil but for actual lids like a pint jar that is air tight no but tin foil can and does work. So i use it but let them breath for about a hour or so its first grow so im just trying to see what does and doesn't work.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14499090 - 05/23/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Do you have any kind of fresh air exchange filters on your lids?
That might be a problem.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: shadowman-x]
    #14499106 - 05/23/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

None other than poked holes. A layer of 1-2'' of verm.


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    #14499304 - 05/23/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: john6886]
    #14499365 - 05/23/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't see why not just try things my way(from what i understand) and see where it works or not. Learn from it.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14499410 - 05/23/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah but if you get one viable cake that fruits, from trying different things with each cakes, and then make a spore print you can then redo the whole process and have more viable knowledge from first hand experience then from just reading.
I agree in a way but how else does new info get put forth if no one tries anything different.
Thanks for the help and the id(really nice to know) that it is infact myc. Will keep updated in a few days again to see if its still going strong.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14499447 - 05/23/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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No i took them off after about 5 days and put them back on every so often with tin foil...So i use it but let them breath for about a hour or so its first grow so im just trying to see what does and doesn't work.





ummmmmm.......not to be a total dick, but, ummm, you NEED lids.

i TOTALLY understand reading up and trying your own thing (cuz thats what i did, and thousands of other people did) but we ALL fall back on to the tried and true methods.

they are "teks" for a reason :foshizzle:

anyhu, to point you in the right direction FOR NEXT TIME, look into putting inoculation points and filters in your lids so you can shoot them up AND they can breath with no risk of contams.

there are a TON of teks for lids, from the easiest rtv silicon noc ports to the most advanced self-healing medical noc ports. both of which are cheap.

success is what we want, and there are A LOT of different ways to succeed, but at first, try to stick to what is known to work the best, THEN you can mix it up.

if you think you're using your brain in the colonization process, just wait till the fruiting stage! now THATS when you REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY need to follow one specific tek. :awesomenod:

good luck brother, you'll do good as long as you follow the footsteps of those before you :japsmile:


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14499468 - 05/23/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I accidentaly used a bit too much cc's around 2 for a jar. Finally removed my tin foil and started to expose to sunlight for 5 mins daily.




Okay.. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but, have you done your research? Do you understand why the PF Tek uses lids? And the whole sunlight thing???? Any light, ANY will slow growth somewhat in your jars. You are giving them mixed signals. I'm not going to bash on you, but, you should check into things a little more before asking questions as to why things are not working out for you. IMO. But, I wish you luck, because you will need it.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: thor_ak]
    #14499522 - 05/23/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Most people do everything they can to avoid contamination. Surprised to see someone do the opposite.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: Jonow]
    #14499697 - 05/23/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive read a lot that any light as long as its not hours of it or direct will help the process of colonization. From trusted members. I never asked as to why things weren't working i asked if this was myc. Im sorry you misread.
Honestly thanks for looking and any help.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: thor_ak]
    #14499746 - 05/23/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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And the whole sunlight thing???? Any light, ANY will slow growth somewhat in your jars.




Wrong. Light will not affect proper colonization, unless the heat is causing the temps to rise too high. Complete colonization and fresh air exchange are the major pinning triggers and without them light will not confuse the mushrooms. In fact, light can actually benefit colonization by allowing the mycelium to establish a circadian rhythm.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: wygram]
    #14499849 - 05/23/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

oh, sry. looks like myc for sure. (also looks like a playground for contams with an open door policy and free ice cream)


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: wygram]
    #14500116 - 05/23/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dude i want some ice cream now don't do that. If i eat the cakes early were never gonna know whose right.
Again thanks for criticism if it works it works though right?


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: wygram]
    #14500336 - 05/23/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm, well maybe I'm the ass, I was told a long time ago that if you mess with your jars, and always expose them to light (check the progess) they will slow.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: thor_ak]
    #14502508 - 05/24/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I understand that a little bit of light is beneficial to all stages of growth just no overexposing.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14503648 - 05/24/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)


If pic doesn't show to well just let it be known one is white and one is grey in comparison with fuzzies.
Is that beginnings of cobweb? anyways they are moving along but incase im picking up some hydrogen peroxide taking out of cups spraying and then let them rehydrate a tiny bit of water later today. Yellowing of the substrate usually means dehydration correct?
Also what are these they are growing in my jars. They are all brown to red, sprouting from the cake, have their own growth, appear to be wet to slimy complexion so im assuming very watery, looks like mini mushrooms or possible aborts. Im unsure. If the pics don't give you a rough idea i can attempt to take get some better.




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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14503702 - 05/24/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this thread is fuckin ridiculous


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: CheeseBurgler]
    #14503894 - 05/24/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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oh, sry. looks like myc for sure. (also looks like a playground for contams with an open door policy and free ice cream)



lol one time when i was young they opened a playground with free cotton candy and snow cones.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14503968 - 05/24/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Also what are these they are growing in my jars. They are all brown to red, sprouting from the cake, have their own growth, appear to be wet to slimy complexion so im assuming very watery, looks like mini mushrooms or possible aborts. Im unsure.




I'm pretty sure that isn't the type of growth you want. IMO, you should

pitch those, and start over.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: thor_ak]
    #14504169 - 05/24/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah i just wish i knew what these were ive tried to figure it out for awhile but everyone just said it was the verm/brf getting colonized or something but thats not the case...


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14504393 - 05/24/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok, i understand this is your baby, and you want to treat it real nice and pat it on the butt and stuff, but you cant.

i know ive been kinda of a kill buzz in this thread, but if there was a way to NOT do it, you have picked it.

im really not trying to be a dick. im really not trying to squash your groove. im also really not trying to tell you what to do, but honestly, i am amazed how you can seem to take no ones advice. once again, not trying to be a cock.

in essence, when you prepare a jar, you have made the BEST POSSIBLE environment for your mushies. but, turns out that that same environment is also great for EVERY OTHER fungus/bacteria/mold/alien shit in the world.

so with that in mind, when we make this environment, it has to be safe from the outside world, which contains all the bad shit i just mentioned.

soooooooooooooooo.......not having a lid on it, taking it out of the jar, breathing on it, not PCing it, and all the other crazy shit youve done to it is welcoming contams into the jar/PERFECT ENVIRONMENT

red is not good. slimey is not good. gray is not good. aborts dont show up until it is fully colonized and in the FC. there will be NO MUSHIES on a non-fully colonized cake.



i keep posting because i actually care about your success, not cuz im a dicklicker. but please, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, read some stuff, and start over. you have the right ingredients, but you need to go at it in a different way.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: CheeseBurgler]
    #14504966 - 05/24/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I understand what your saying but i already knew some of that stuff why i didn't seem to jump all around when everyone mentioned it because i knew the chances of success to be slim. I don't breath into the thing or do anything down right dumb other than taking off the tin foil. I am just trying to see what i can and can't do not looking so much for success in weight as a issue currently. Just success and knowing how to handle these situations and im probably exposing my cakes to worse situations then i ever will in the future to learn from.

Can you tell me what it is, the stuff that im asking about in jars, because ive read that you can get early pinning if you have the said environment with contaminants and the mushrooms fight it and early pin due to it. I know this is not good but i also want to try to learn from this and see if i can save it which is my next course of action. Then i might put into fruiting chamber a bit early and see if i have any success at all or look into a casing in the meantime.


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Re: My first grow info/pics of progress [Re: ShadowHagi]
    #14504983 - 05/24/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Man. annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I'm out.


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