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OfflineLarrythescaryrex
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DMT failure
    #14498081 - 05/23/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I watched a guy try some dmt he supposedly extracted but he said he wasn't getting effects off of it. I think he may have been smoking it improperly. The shit looked like the pics people have posted... any comments?


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Re: DMT failure [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14498085 - 05/23/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is he on meds? If not he probably burned the shit out of it. I have heard of a few people not on meds that it does not do anything to. I wonder are they already dead?


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Re: DMT failure [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14498136 - 05/23/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how did he smoke it? was it crystal? enhanced leaf? MAOI changa?

what did he smoke it in?

did it smell like plastic/oranges?

did he inhale?

did he cough?


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Re: DMT failure [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14498439 - 05/23/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

DosileFlynn has the right idea. We need more info to form a better opinion.


I have seen extractions that seemed less active than others... I have seen extractions (from the same starting bark material, using a nearly identical method) that turned out active, but barely visual...

There are some variables here, especially if there was a difference in the starting material, or variables in the actual extraction process... amount of chemicals used, soak time, agitation, wash of the final product, etc...

...and then, as mentioned, there could be difference in method of ingestion. I've seen the very same end-material have different effects when smoked or vaporized with a different technique.


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Re: DMT failure [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14498464 - 05/23/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
how did he smoke it? was it crystal? enhanced leaf? MAOI changa?

what did he smoke it in?

did it smell like plastic/oranges?

did he inhale?

did he cough?





Tried to smoke it two ways: first with a vaporizor and then later tried to suck smoke out of a tinfoil spoon heated with a lighter. I have suggested he try a lightbulb, but it hasn't happened yet. It was crystal, supposedly made with the natureboy stb tek.

It smelled sorta like lilacs and maybe a bare hint of the naphatha.

He inhaled but did not cough.


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Re: DMT failure [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14498478 - 05/23/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thats really strange. i have no idea. maybe he left the dmt laying around exposed to air for too long and it oxidised into dmt-n-oxide??


so he said he had no effects from it at all..? was he just not smoking enough of it?


:shrug:

i mean even if you overheat it and dont burn it right, you'll be wasting some of the dmt, but you should still be getting some smoke and effects from it, regardless of how much is wasted or how harsh it is on the lungs. usually vapes are fairly good.

why doesnt he try sandwiching it in a bong or pipe or something.


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Re: DMT failure [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14498505 - 05/23/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tried to smoke it two ways: first with a vaporizor and then later tried to suck smoke out of a tinfoil spoon heated with a lighter. I have suggested he try a lightbulb, but it hasn't happened yet. It was crystal, supposedly made with the natureboy stb tek.

It smelled sorta like lilacs and maybe a bare hint of the naphatha.

He inhaled but did not cough.





Is this the kind of vaporizer used for pot?  I am thinking that if the temperature is hard to control, or does not go high enough, your friend may have had a hard time getting enough all at once.

DMT smoke, or even vapor, from what I've seen/heard is usually VERY harsh or hard on the lungs. Most people cough bad, or have a hard time holding the first hit, if they are getting "enough" vapor/smoke.

I have seen pure crystal vaporized in an "oil burner" type pipe, that produced not only a thick cloud of vapor but horrid coughing. One good blast from that was enough to send the user halfway to hyperspace.  The smell you described sounds about right. STB tek without a good wash can leave behind contaminants, so the "product" may not be wholly pure... there may be fats or other inactives, were that the case, causing the need for a higher dose (if not a wash... which is the best and safest idea in such a case)

Your description sounds like smoking method is the culprit. Lightbulb may work.  I once saw a device made from aluminum foil and a paper towel roll that actually worked VERY well. Tell your friend to think of this like salvia, if he's ever done that one, in terms of smoking METHOD.  I mean in the regard that he wants to get as much into his system as quickly as possible for the most "dramatic" effects.

If he can't find a good vape method, sandwiching and "smoking" may be his best bet.


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Re: DMT failure [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14498507 - 05/23/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

most likely the way he smoked it....both techniques you mentioned are a failure. Tell him to stir it with a little smokable leaf or just straight ashes of any kind .....pipe smoke it like normal

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Re: DMT failure [Re: argg]
    #14498811 - 05/23/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Is he on meds? If not he probably burned the shit out of it. I have heard of a few people not on meds that it does not do anything to. I wonder are they already dead?




Yeah, what is up with people and meds.  One time me and a friend took LSD at about the same dose.  I definately felt it and got visuals.  He said he never noticed a thing and has never tripped on LSD.  I think something was wrong with him.  Maybe he took to many prescription drugs in his past and blew a fuse.


C'mon if you can't get high of LSD (or DMT, etc) what is wrong with you?  They must be cold soul less beings...lol : )

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Re: DMT failure [Re: demon66]
    #14498844 - 05/23/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

xanax in your system will do it. most anti depressents will too


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Re: DMT failure [Re: alcoholocaust]
    #14498910 - 05/23/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Does that mean that xanax kills all ur emotions since u can't have a psychedelic trip.

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Re: DMT failure [Re: demon66]
    #14498930 - 05/23/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Benzos can dull the psychedelic experience. Also, some are more easily affected than others. Also, the experience is different for everyone.

I rarely ever got "strong" open-eye visuals from LSD. Distortions, yes, but not much heavier than color enhancement, "breathing" walls, or CEV's...until I got to a higher dose. Mushrooms (at around 3g dry and up) become more visual for me.


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Re: DMT failure [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #14509377 - 05/25/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My cat has found freeze precipitated crystals to be less OEV visual distortion and more vibrational body energy than the more yellowish evaporated crystals.  She prefers to mix the two together when voyaging and always sandwiched between small amounts of plant material.

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