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Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing?
    #14496882 - 05/22/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Call me crazy but i find deeply embedded religious beliefs disturbing.

I can barely take any of my old friends that pray to god seriously in their ideas about the world.


I wouldn't even call myself atheist but i wish people would think twice about praising god.



:crazy2::crazy2::crazy2::crazy2:

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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14496890 - 05/22/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I hoped for the rapture so they would all be gone. It would have made the world peaceful for a change.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: argg] * 2
    #14496894 - 05/22/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I used to do customer service for eHarmony, which was founded by an Evangelical Preacher (the cottonheaded guy in the commercials).  Over the 2 years I was there, I developed a deeper hatred for Christians than I had ever experienced before.  I found that my least favorite Christians are the Pentecostals, Evangelicals and Baptists.  Anyway, I was fired 1 week after being given an award for the most customers writing or calling back to tell my manager how great I was at going above and beyond what they needed.  I was fired without ever having a history of bad behavior or even a warning because 1 day this guy who's account showed he was the holiest of holy fundamentalist Christians cussed me out because he called on his 8th day of using his subscription for a refund, when there is a strict 7 day refund period and he couldn't have it.  So instead of hanging up on him for saying "fuck you bitch" to me about 15 times, I waited until he was done and told him calmly and without cussing that he was a hypocrite.  Anyway...  Fuck eHarmony for firing me for that, and fuck Christians in general.  Fuck them right in the ear


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: BadAssPterodactyl]
    #14496901 - 05/22/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Especially when they are fucking ranting on and on about there religion...


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14496905 - 05/22/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Fanatical religious beliefs are nothing more than mental illness.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14496923 - 05/22/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No. Because I have arguments that destroy any logical theological argument.  For example, if the bible is the word, does that mean we should stone people to death? 

My main argument is, how can you decide which part of the bible you obey?  Either you are for it, or against it. 

I try to live by buddhist principles.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14496934 - 05/22/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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No. Because I have arguments that destroy any logical theological argument.  For example, if the bible is the word, does that mean we should stone people to death? 

My main argument is, how can you decide which part of the bible you obey?  Either you are for it, or against it. 

I try to live by buddhist principles.




That's not really true. There is context to the rules in the Bible.
If we're not living in ancient times, we shouldn't have to follow ancient rules.
e.g. Back then, not eating pork and such made sense; they couldn't cook it well enough, and a lot of people would die from disease.

BTW, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.

And overzealous faith-based proselytizers deserve various forms of torture.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14496947 - 05/22/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14496963 - 05/22/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

speaking in tongues is some bullshit. those motherfuckers confused the shit out of me when i was like 10. i actually believe that the holy spirit was manifesting inside of them to speak the language of the holy. come to find out those fuckers are just speaking gibberish. fuck that mother fucker fuck


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14496987 - 05/22/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Fanatical religious beliefs are nothing more than mental illness.




Nah, it's deeply rooted brain washing. Some of them are crazy (in the medical sense), but not all of them.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: F0SS1L] * 3
    #14497028 - 05/23/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: F0SS1L]
    #14497084 - 05/23/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That just made my night.  Ronald should've been harsher on that christian nympho though.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14498322 - 05/23/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think Buddhism is one of the most respectable religions because it states that we are intimately connected with the universe and we are all a collective whole. All of what I said is scientifically proven.
  Hopefully you guys don't hate on me too bad:laugh2: But I agree alot of religious people suck bawlz:grin:


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14498376 - 05/23/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I dont understand the need to hate on religion/religious people by the so called open minded


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14498382 - 05/23/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never could understand it either.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14498402 - 05/23/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I try to live by buddhist principles.





killing christians, muslims and other non believers, to place yourself well
above all others and live like a king while those below you starve?

I'm down for a little buddhism as long as I'm top tier buddhist


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14498404 - 05/23/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think some people were raised in oppressive catholic families that forced their religion on their children.(I lived in one) That caused me to despise religion for a looooong time.
  However, hate doesn't solve anything it just creates suffering. So make love and take drugs, homies :hippie:


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14498408 - 05/23/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I never could understand it either.





seems all the religions preach the "choke it down their throats until they
convert or they can all just fuck off and die" philosophy, even atheism


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14498420 - 05/23/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i like cow poo said:
I think some people were raised in oppressive catholic families that forced their religion on their children.(I lived in one) That caused me to despise religion for a looooong time.





it's not just the Catholics, it's every religious belief, buddhism, atheism,
all of them. buddhists are killing non believers in many parts of the world,
sri lanka is the most well known because that's where the 'holy war' is


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14498438 - 05/23/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i like cow poo said:
I think some people were raised in oppressive catholic families that forced their religion on their children.(I lived in one) That caused me to despise religion for a looooong time.





it's not just the Catholics, it's every religious belief, buddhism, atheism,
all of them. buddhists are killing non believers in many parts of the world,
sri lanka is the most well known because that's where the 'holy war' is




That's very true. There was a time, in Tibet, when buddhism considered the Bon-po to be heretics and pulled a '' witch hunt '' on them.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14498442 - 05/23/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I dont understand the need to hate on religion/religious people by the so called open minded




I think it's hilarious when someone fucks with them though.  Half of the staunchly religious (any religion) people I've met don't even have a clue as to why they believe as they do.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14498450 - 05/23/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We would be a lot better off with no religion at all, but that's not likely to happen anytime soon it is true. But a lot of the Xtians I've met have been very nice people. Of course, there are some psychos there as well.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: F0SS1L]
    #14498484 - 05/23/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Mad_Larkin said:
Fanatical religious beliefs are nothing more than mental illness.




Nah, it's deeply rooted brain washing. Some of them are crazy (in the medical sense), but not all of them.




Religion is brainwashing.
Fanatical religion is mental illness.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14498494 - 05/23/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

they just haven't realized that belief itself is irrelevant.  It's not easy to penetrate through the many layers of conditioning that have built up throughout one's life.  Especially when many are put in place while the person is still young and highly impressionable.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: sirdonut]
    #14498509 - 05/23/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah you have to be a stubborn lil bastard like me, to resist the fear mongering of SOME christians:rofl:


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14498559 - 05/23/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The energy given off by people forcing their beliefs on others makes me want to dive through a window to escape, I can't help but act impossibly nervous when they start talking to me about it, it makes me feel like they're just going to follow me forever until I accept what they believe. 10 years ago they scared me a lot less and I would tell them how I liked to worship satan or a gobstopper, whatever seemed to offend them more, explaining at some point that I was just returning the offensive favor.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: PNW FunGuy]
    #14498596 - 05/23/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

buddha's words were just as manipulated as jesus' words.
it sad to see such people misinterpret the meanings and use them for their own fulfillment.

the temple i go to is awesome tho


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: PNW FunGuy]
    #14498675 - 05/23/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The energy given off by people forcing their beliefs on others makes me want to dive through a window to escape, I can't help but act impossibly nervous when they start talking to me about it, it makes me feel like they're just going to follow me forever until I accept what they believe. 10 years ago they scared me a lot less and I would tell them how I liked to worship satan or a gobstopper, whatever seemed to offend them more, explaining at some point that I was just returning the offensive favor.





Yeah, I agree. Johavas witnesses are bad for that, atleast where I am. Every sunday, I get a knock at the door. Usually when footballs on. My solution? Open your window and blast ''chased through the woods by a rapist''. It's been 7 months and they haven't come back since. Here's hoping for another 8 :smile:


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14498867 - 05/23/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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For example, if the bible is the word, does that mean we should stone people to death?




Actually, that's a pretty popular misconception. The bible is not the word, but infarct it is the bird who is the word.

Hope that helps!

also, the whole Buddhist thing makes you come off a little pretentious... I'd look into that.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14498889 - 05/23/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I personally count myself as religious, but fundamentalists really get on my nerves.  I also hate when people make really bad arguments for God's existence.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14498909 - 05/23/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think the problem, at it's root, is semantics and the inherent limitations of the human language. Everyone has their own way of expressing their own truth from their own experiences. We are all born into different reality tunnels where we stray to different ideologies. For example, I was born on liberal Long Island where I was an atheist for the majority of my life. For many years I vehemently argued anyone who was "religious" or believed in "God."

I try not to put labels on myself or anyone else anymore because I really don't think my ideas fit into any one category. Huxley's Perennial Philosophy points out that a degree of truth can be found in all religious traditions. This is not to be confused with the dogma expounded by the various religious institutions set up in such religions names.

In short, believe what you want. Try not to reinforce the believer-disbeliever dichotomy because it is in essence the verbal minority part of the spectrum. Don't let you upbringing close your mind to new possibilities in a search for truth (whatever that is to you) in this world.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Silversoul]
    #14498914 - 05/23/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There's a difference between religious and crazy. But the line is very thin.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14498928 - 05/23/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

osho is pretty cool. my Mum is a deeply spiritual ṣūfī. very very devout in her beliefs it kinda drove me crazy growing up. but she has really been coming around and excepting me lately


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: solstice]
    #14498950 - 05/23/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i like cow poo said:
I think some people were raised in oppressive catholic families that forced their religion on their children.(I lived in one) That caused me to despise religion for a looooong time.





it's not just the Catholics, it's every religious belief, buddhism, atheism,
all of them. buddhists are killing non believers in many parts of the world,
sri lanka is the most well known because that's where the 'holy war' is




That's very true. There was a time, in Tibet, when buddhism considered the Bon-po to be heretics and pulled a '' witch hunt '' on them.





it still goes on

http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2009/10/buddhist-muslim-war-feared-in-asia.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1554817/Sri-Lankas-Buddhist-monks-are-intent-on-war.html


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14499040 - 05/23/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

think, many of these people were told to love God and praise Jesus before they were even old enough to talk.
literally their whole lives they were fed the same lie over and over and over again until it became fact.

it's sad...but the parents think they're doing their children a favor because the parents were raised the same way!
it's mass brainwashing at its finest. the best part? the people are WILLINGLY brainwashed...AND they pay them!!

what a scary system...all because people are too afraid, too weak, too insecure to believe in the power of themselves.

religion is :facepalm:

Although, some of the nicest people I've ever met have been christian, so :shrug:


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14499075 - 05/23/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Deeply religious people do disturb me, but so do fanatics on the other end of the spectrum. Fanaticism and craziness are pretty similar.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14499274 - 05/23/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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think, many of these people were told to love God and praise Jesus before they were even old enough to talk.
literally their whole lives they were fed the same lie over and over and over again until it became fact.

it's sad...but the parents think they're doing their children a favor because the parents were raised the same way!
it's mass brainwashing at its finest. the best part? the people are WILLINGLY brainwashed...AND they pay them!!

what a scary system...all because people are too afraid, too weak, too insecure to believe in the power of themselves.

religion is :facepalm:

Although, some of the nicest people I've ever met have been christian, so :shrug:




I wish I was spoonfed those lies. Not all of us grew up in deeply religious families. I've been raised to be skeptical of everything, and to question everyones motives. Though it's a pretty good philosophy, I fell left out by the fact I've never been able to believe in god. It's an experience I've never been able to experience. Try as I might.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14499421 - 05/23/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Fuck religion. The bible can be used for archeological purposes. Things in the bible exist physically. Ever watch The Exodus Decoded?
http://youtu.be/c9-ynYEJolI

I find it pathetic that because a person does not believe in God that they dismiss the bible as a complete lie, when there is archeological proof.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: Mr.Qabalistic]
    #14499611 - 05/23/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

do you think it could possibly be genetic? maybe a little bit? I know they are doing tests and have theories that their is a "god" section of your brain, which evolved to allow one to have a sense of "infinity" and that life was somehow eternal in order to ease the amazingly high stress associated with the conscious thought of death.
This later got interpreted 100 million different ways and now we have Christianity.

Like, my dads side of the family has never been religious, and neither are any of the kids. But my moms side is highly religious.. are some people just more prone to siding with what feels right?

kind of how anger and other emotions gets the best of some people who just act on instinct and feeling, coming from the most basic and first evolved portions of the brain, not the most outter and most recently evolved part of the brain.

/stoned ramble didnt review hope make sense. :stoned:


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14499759 - 05/23/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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do you think it could possibly be genetic? maybe a little bit? I know they are doing tests and have theories that their is a "god" section of your brain, which evolved to allow one to have a sense of "infinity" and that life was somehow eternal in order to ease the amazingly high stress associated with the conscious thought of death.
This later got interpreted 100 million different ways and now we have Christianity.

Like, my dads side of the family has never been religious, and neither are any of the kids. But my moms side is highly religious.. are some people just more prone to siding with what feels right?

kind of how anger and other emotions gets the best of some people who just act on instinct and feeling, coming from the most basic and first evolved portions of the brain, not the most outter and most recently evolved part of the brain.

/stoned ramble didnt review hope make sense. :stoned:




Are you referring to the experiment where researchers used powerful magnetic fields?

Either way, I doubt it's genetic. It's only bbeen in the last 100 years or so, that atheists-non religious people have been emerging. I know it was the social norm, but you'd think there would be a few more recorded atheist prior to the 1900's. I do think however, that it is our apriori need to use reason and cause and effect to 'build' the world around us, that drives us to draw illogical conclusion in the absence of scientific explanations. That and the familiarity effect. (whatever is familiar s correct)


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14531343 - 05/29/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm of the opinion that religion is not gonna bother me unless someone is really in your face about it, or if someone accosts you just to try to convert you. I believe that whatever gets you by from day to day is cool. I won't judge one for his or her beliefs because these beliefs are a sum of every experience in their life, and I am not in any position to say I wouldn't believe the same if I'd experienced the same.

Essentially, if it makes them happy, let them have it. It is just sad that so many religious fanatics take it to such extremes, where they can't even comprehend the idea of not believing in God.

If I'm going to be accepting of them, I'd like them to at least return the fucking favor. I don't appreciate intolerance.


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: thepandemic]
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    #14531739 - 05/29/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Jesus must have died in utter disillusionment


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Re: Anyone find deeply religious people disturbing? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14531750 - 05/29/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Damn right I do.

I'm obviously having a problem and then they're like "Hey, why don't you ask God for help?"

Well, last time I was stranded about 30 miles from my home, that fucker never answered.


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