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are snow mushrooms gyromitra gigas edible
    #14495909 - 05/22/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What are different ways to prepare snowbank mushrooms? CAn they be Dried?


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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: fungiwithduck]
    #14495920 - 05/22/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What's a snowbank mushroom?


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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: elprawn]
    #14495953 - 05/22/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you are talking about Gyromitra such as Gyromitra gigas - G. Korfii / G. montana there have been a number of poisonings from them.  I would not reccomend them.


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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: fungiwithduck]
    #14496187 - 05/22/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I thought they are non toxic,edible and fairly good. I would like to know a little more if you have time. Here is a pic.




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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: fungiwithduck]
    #14496198 - 05/22/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like a huge morel!


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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: bholzer]
    #14496286 - 05/22/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not really.  There is a morel behind it on the top left. you will see the difference.


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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: fungiwithduck]
    #14496294 - 05/22/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I just meant that the brain-like wrinkles make me think of a morel


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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: bholzer]
    #14496407 - 05/22/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hence the name "false morel".


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Re: snowbank mushrooms [Re: elprawn]
    #14496423 - 05/22/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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elprawn said:
Hence the name "false morel".



Aha, didn't know that was the dreaded false morel :billymaythumbup: the more you know


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Re: are snow mushrooms gyromitra gigas edible [Re: fungiwithduck]
    #14496470 - 05/22/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

They're not really recommended. Identifying the exact species is difficult, and most have a toxin in them called gyromitrin. Under several types of conditions (including cooking), gyromitrin breaks down into methylhydrazine, a rather nasty poison. Methylhydrazine has the nasty feature that it tends to show little or no symptoms until you have a lot of it in you, then you get really sick all at once. On the positive side, fatalities are fairly rare, though they do occur.

If you're really determined, research (there are lots of references around) how to make them "safe". Be sure to cook them in a well ventilated area (the vapors are toxic), and do what you can to err on the side of caution. Realize that there are several reported poisonings every year in the US from them, and those people thought they were doing it right. Save at least one, uncooked, in the refrigerator, so that if you get sick you can take it with you to the emergency room so they can verify what you were poisoned with.

Finally, if you decide to eat them, don't eat a lot, and wait several days before you eat more. The toxin remains in your body for a few days, and eating them several times within a couple days is another way to build up the toxin levels enough to make you sick. I don't know of any specific studies on how long it takes the toxins to go away, but I'm pretty sure a week is enough, so limit yourself to one meal a week with them as a small side dish. That should at least minimize the likelihood (and severity) of any poisoning.


Those are great specimens by the way.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: are snow mushrooms gyromitra gigas edible [Re: ToxicMan]
    #14496624 - 05/22/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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They're not really recommended. Identifying the exact species is difficult, and most have a toxin in them called gyromitrin. Under several types of conditions (including cooking), gyromitrin breaks down into methylhydrazine, a rather nasty poison. Methylhydrazine has the nasty feature that it tends to show little or no symptoms until you have a lot of it in you, then you get really sick all at once. On the positive side, fatalities are fairly rare, though they do occur.

If you're really determined, research (there are lots of references around) how to make them "safe". Be sure to cook them in a well ventilated area (the vapors are toxic), and do what you can to err on the side of caution. Realize that there are several reported poisonings every year in the US from them, and those people thought they were doing it right. Save at least one, uncooked, in the refrigerator, so that if you get sick you can take it with you to the emergency room so they can verify what you were poisoned with.

Finally, if you decide to eat them, don't eat a lot, and wait several days before you eat more. The toxin remains in your body for a few days, and eating them several times within a couple days is another way to build up the toxin levels enough to make you sick. I don't know of any specific studies on how long it takes the toxins to go away, but I'm pretty sure a week is enough, so limit yourself to one meal a week with them as a small side dish. That should at least minimize the likelihood (and severity) of any poisoning.


Those are great specimens by the way.

Happy mushrooming!



:thumbup: Thanks for the explanation.


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Re: are snow mushrooms gyromitra gigas edible [Re: fungiwithduck]
    #14496664 - 05/22/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Slice and boil for a few minutes
Then sauté them

Do not suggest eating many or often


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