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Alcohol is awesome, and weed is evil. That’s the message that alcohol
companies have been paying to push for decades. While almost 11,000
people die every year from drunk-driving related crashes alone, these
companies push their products on TV and radio and helped directly fund
Partnership For A Drug Free America up until about 1997 – for those of
you who don’t know, PFDFA produces many of the inane commercials that
tell kids to steer clear of weed.
An interesting back drop to a story out of Colorado. It seems Paul
Curry used to work for the MillerCoors company – that was until his
legal medical marijuana use showed up on a drug test and the company
fired him.
A seven-year employee with MillerCoors, one of the ailments Paul was
treating with medical cannabis resulted from an accident he had at
work. He has retained Colorado MMJ lawyer Rob Corry to “probably sue”
MillerCoors for discrimination.
How utterly hypocritical and disgusting for MillerCoors to fire this
man for choosing a safer alternative to treat his pain. I guess if he
got blasted every night on a 12-pack of Miller Light and came into work
hungover, that would be just dandy. He could say he’s supporting the
company while running over someone’s foot with a forklift because his
vision is blurry from his massive headache.
Hopefully Paul Curry sues MillerCoors and gets a ton of money. These
companies have to pay for their crimes with their pocketbooks; that’s
the only way they will learn.
I would expect nothing less (more?) from Miller/Coors. They are a shitty company. And while I no longer drink, when I did, it was def. not their products that I reached for.
So a person shouldn't be able to take a medicine that a employer is testing for? How about the opium based painkillers, most people don't get fired for using medicine.
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Quote: MidRange said: So a person shouldn't be able to take a medicine that a employer is testing for? How about the opium based painkillers, most people don't get fired for using medicine.
Marijuana is still federally illegal with no medical use (according to the gov.) The law is what it is. Its quite controversial and i dont believe the coors company is at fault.
Quote: MidRange said: So a person shouldn't be able to take a medicine that a employer is testing for? How about the opium based painkillers, most people don't get fired for using medicine.
Marijuana is still federally illegal with no medical use (according to the gov.) The law is what it is. Its quite controversial and i dont believe the coors company is at fault.
I think you are missing the point that was meant to be made by the article. Alcohol corporations like miller/coors support a "drug free america" of course with the exception of alcohol, the DRUG they manufacture and sell legally that tens of thousands of people die off every year. Yet when someone is using marijuana as a medical pain reliever (for a work related accident) instead of addictive opiates its not okay. Even though its medical and alcohol is purely recreation...and worse for you.
The twisted-ness of this whole situation goes on and on and i think its some corrupt shit man.
EDIT: also you probably didnt miss the point, but yeah i just said that anyways.
Quote: Mush 4 Brains said: The man was surely aware that his employer drug tested, and he chose to smoke marijuana anyway. Im seriously drinking a coors right now.
Quote: Mush 4 Brains said:
Quote: MidRange said: So a person shouldn't be able to take a medicine that a employer is testing for? How about the opium based painkillers, most people don't get fired for using medicine.
Marijuana is still federally illegal with no medical use (according to the gov.) The law is what it is. Its quite controversial and i dont believe the coors company is at fault.
Fortunately for Rob Corry and Paul Curry, a state judge/jury in the great state of Colorado will be the one to determine this, not you or the federal government.
Quote: MidRange said: So a person shouldn't be able to take a medicine that a employer is testing for? How about the opium based painkillers, most people don't get fired for using medicine.
Marijuana is still federally illegal with no medical use (according to the gov.) The law is what it is. Its quite controversial and i dont believe the coors company is at fault.
What you don't understand is that:
Quote: An interesting back drop to a story out of Colorado. It seems Paul Curry used to work for the MillerCoors company – that was until his legal medical marijuana use showed up on a drug test and the company fired him.
He has a MMJ card.
So it was legal. The company can't fire him for taking his legal medicine, like if he would take oxycontin for example.
So yes, it is the company fault.
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Quote: MidRange said: So a person shouldn't be able to take a medicine that a employer is testing for? How about the opium based painkillers, most people don't get fired for using medicine.
Marijuana is still federally illegal with no medical use (according to the gov.) The law is what it is. Its quite controversial and i dont believe the coors company is at fault.
What you don't understand is that:
Quote: An interesting back drop to a story out of Colorado. It seems Paul Curry used to work for the MillerCoors company – that was until his legal medical marijuana use showed up on a drug test and the company fired him.
He has a MMJ card.
So it was legal. The company can't fire him for taking his legal medicine, like if he would take oxycontin for example.
So yes, it is the company fault.
Coors is a national company, they obey Federal laws as well as state laws. Why would a company be in the wrong for following federal law? Don't get me wrong, this is really messed up, But the guy is screwed because if he goes to court coors will appeal till the case goes federal at which point they will be in the right.
The company had 2 choices, since they follow (technically) both state and federal laws; They could either ignore his mmj use, or do what they are doing. They COULD recognize state law, and by recognize, I mean shut their god damned mouths and let the man work his job.
But they did not. They do this; make a big fucking stink about it when they do not have to. Why>? For all the reasons that the article points out; alcohol companies actively lobby/support drug prohibition, and refuse to give an inch of territory.
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I don't like alcohol and I think a lot of America's problems have to do with alcohol consumption.
It's a drug that makes you a fucking re-TARD while you're high on it. It doesn't offer any insights into life or glorious and spectacular visual experiences.
The fact that most of America's powerful and moneyed classes consistently if not constantly use alcohol as their primary intoxicant of choice is demonstrative of the state of this "country".
Honestly alcohol culture is not for me *at all*. I don't see anything that has anything to do with the Dharma involved in it. I think it clouds your thought and makes appropriate decision-making a more difficult venture.
It's funny, disgusting and unbelievable at the same time that cannabis is demonized while literally one of the worst drugs that exists flows from the taps freely.
Former Coors employee Paul Curry, fired earlier this year for being a medical marijuana patient–and for testing positive for the drug–has been awarded unemployment, his attorney Rob Corry told The Colorado Independent.
“This ruling says that he was not terminated through any fault of his own. It says that Coors was in the wrong. With this ruling, there can be no other reason for his termination than discrimination. Coors needs to take this ruling very seriously,” Corry said.
Curry worked at Coors from 2004 until March of this year when he was involved in an incident. He says a crane operator was lifting a motor to be placed on a roof. It was his job to help land the motor and put it in place. He says he could see the motor swinging and climbed up on a rail to wave at the crane operator–to signal him to back off with the motor before it hit something. He failed to get the operator’s attention and the motor did hit something.
He says that as part of the follow-up to incidents like that, all involved employees are subject to a mouth swap drug test. He says he passed the test but because he had told his supervisor he was a medical marijuana patient, the company then did a urine test, which did show evidence of marijuana usage, and he was then fired.
“I had taken some medical marijuana about two weeks before the event. That is the last time. I was not impaired in any way,” Curry told the Colorado Independent.
He said he had been a medical marijuana patient for a little more than a year at the time he was fired. He uses it for back pain. He takes 750mg of Tylenol daily for his back. Because of Hepatitis, he cannot take other pain medications, he says.
“Medical marijuana helps immensely with my back spasms,” he said.
Asked whether he ever used marijuana before work, he laughed. “I’m working sixty-five feet off the ground, often next to a 2700-degree furnace. I know my limitations. The last thing I need is to smoke a joint before work.”
A co-worker who asked not to be named, said that to his knowledge, Curry never came to work high. “That was never an issue. He was always there, always on time and did good work,” the co-worker said.
As to winning his unemployment claim, Curry said, “This proves I was never high at work. It can stay in the system a long time. I’m looking for another job, but really I’d just like my old job back,” he said.
Quote: Mush 4 Brains said: The man was surely aware that his employer drug tested, and he chose to smoke marijuana anyway. Im seriously drinking a coors right now.
sucks that if i test positive for opiates i have a prescription for it. and millercoors couldn't do shit to me.
but a marijuana prescription? pssh. a fucking meaningless piece of paper.
Quote: k00laid said: well thats why it doesnt mean shit :S just a piece of paper
errr recommendation, if you will
I wouldn't go so far as to say it doesn't mean shit, it allows you to grow and smoke cannabis legally but as far as employment and drug tests then yeah it doesn't protect someone like a prescription would nor would I expect it to.
It allows you to grow and smoke so long as no body of government decides to arrest you. Medical Marijuana is only legal insofaras the state governments aren't supposed to arrest people who are following said state's MM laws. However, nothing is stopping them from getting the feds involved. Once this happens, even if the court rules in favor of MMJ, the feds still screw people over by raiding their houses, seizing their assets and ass-ramming them with court costs and attorney's fees.