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OfflineI AM SWIM
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What would you do?
    #14495272 - 05/22/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If your best friend was dying and in pain, and you had to pull the plug?

:sad:

Discuss Euthanasia.

What would you do? And why would you do it?


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14495281 - 05/22/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Would you respect your friends wishes or watch them suffer? :mastershake:First.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14495291 - 05/22/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would discuss it with him. I'd tell him one day he's gonna die anyway, so if for some reason there is punishment for this, you might as well wait 'till you die.  Lengthening your life that long isn't gonna matter when you're dead.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14495298 - 05/22/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if the pain was unbearable for them then yeah i'd pull the plug.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14495305 - 05/22/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd pull the plug.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14495358 - 05/22/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The best friend cannot speak.

Unfortunately, I think I agree with all of you who say 'pull the plug'.

It's the best way to go since death is inevitable and the innocent don't deserve prolonged pain, however,

Gandalf once said,


"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? . . .  Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."


So I just don't know..


Has anybody gone through this before?


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14495368 - 05/22/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry:frown:.

Can he still listen?


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14495382 - 05/22/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this thread really makes me :feelsbadman:

"Put me out of my misery
I'd do it for you, would you do it for me"


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Re: What would you do? [Re: CosmicFool]
    #14495391 - 05/22/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldn't let somebody suffer like that, i'd pull the shit out of that plug.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: Salomon]
    #14495412 - 05/22/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Life is like animal porn. It's not for everyone.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14495571 - 05/22/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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SprewellSleeve said:
Sorry:(.

Can he still listen?





He can listen..

I'm just waiting for a sign of some sort. Something to confirm that 'pulling the plug' is indeed what he wants.
After all, he cannot tell me what he does or doesn't want.

Sorry about the feelsbadman that this thread delivers, but I guess that is the nature of "feels".

I would gladly trade my life for his right now, but I can't.

I hurt myself today.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14495576 - 05/22/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

friend? most likely no. family/spouse? well this has actually been discussed. i will say no more


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Re: What would you do? [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #14495591 - 05/22/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldn't do it. there would be no way to know for sure. even if there was, i just don't think i could 'pull the plug' on someone's life like that, i dunno, seems odd.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #14495595 - 05/22/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Personally, I would pull the plug. I imagine being trapped in my own head would be one of the worst things imaginable.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: Caine]
    #14495606 - 05/22/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Caine said:
Personally, I would pull the plug. I imagine being trapped in my own head would be one of the worst things imaginable.




qft

if it were me, id sure as hell want the plug pulled


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Re: What would you do? [Re: Natorade]
    #14495627 - 05/22/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you guys hear about this guy?
23 YEARS... god damn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/23/man-trapped-coma-23-years


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Re: What would you do? [Re: Natorade]
    #14495641 - 05/22/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

has anyone read the book "Johnny got his gun"?
it was a store about a war veteran who lost everything
it was written in first person from his point of view


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Re: What would you do? [Re: CosmicFool]
    #14496747 - 05/22/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

CosmicFool said:
has anyone read the book "Johnny got his gun"?
it was a store about a war veteran who lost everything
it was written in first person from his point of view



I haven't read the book. I want to see the movie. I knew about it because of Metallica's "One" video. Seems very scary/sad.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14496871 - 05/22/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:feelsbadman:
If there's nothing they can do, pull it. Let his body and soul be one with the earth.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: acidxprincess]
    #14496878 - 05/22/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i'd shoot him with a good shot of heroin, then do what had to be done.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: s0nny]
    #14496887 - 05/22/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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s0nny said:
i'd shoot him with a good shot of DMT, then do what had to be done.




Fixed.

I would personally pull the plug depending on how severe the pain and suffering is. OP, is your friend in a vegetable state or is he still receptive of his surroundings but in pain? Is there a chance he will recover?


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14496895 - 05/22/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i'd only pull the plug of he was for sure gonna die.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: s0nny]
    #14496900 - 05/22/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Word. Yet is there any surefire way of knowing that pulling the plug was the right thing to do? If you do you'll never knew if he'd have eventually recovered and if you don't then you're just hoping for it while he suffers.

It's an iffy situation.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14496906 - 05/22/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i guess you're right. :shrug:


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Re: What would you do? [Re: s0nny]
    #14496918 - 05/22/11 11:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, if there's any chance, don't do it. There's many things I'm ok with humans going off feeling and everything, but with something as big as life, you can't decide in my opinion.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14496970 - 05/22/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like YOU want to pull the plug because you see your friend in pain.
Until he tells you that that's what he wants you to do, you have no right to do so.
In fact, although I support euthanasia, I'd definitely classify that as murder- possibly voluntary manslaughter.

:2cents:

Sorry about your friend, dude.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14497117 - 05/23/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've been through a similar thing swim, and for a person who is in a situation where there is really no chance of healing up or going back to living a normal life, or if they are in a significant ammount of pain and their quality of life has really been shattered, then i think euthanasia should definately be an option.


It's all well and good for the people here in this thread, who are detached from the situation to say: " yeah pull the plug ". but it's a complete different thing when your the person who's in that situation and has to make the decision.


I couldn't.


I think the best thing to do is just try to comfort them as much as you can and do whatever is possible to help them or put them at ease. Even when people are in medically induced coma's they can hear you. so talk to the person. read them stories from a book. play some of their favourite tunes, or just some really nice ambient relaxing music. keep it positive though.


but yeah dude, it sucks to have to go through things like this.


welcome back by the way :smile:


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Re: What would you do? [Re: CosmicFool]
    #14497153 - 05/23/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Natorade said:
you guys hear about this guy?
23 YEARS... god damn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/23/man-trapped-coma-23-years




Still not much of an existence is it?  I personally wouldn't want to live like that and if the same thing were to happen to me I have to assume I would feel the same way I do now and ask for a large DMT/heroin dose.

Quote:

CosmicFool said:
has anyone read the book "Johnny got his gun"?
it was a store about a war veteran who lost everything
it was written in first person from his point of view




Awesomely dark book I got halfway through then lost it somewhere.  I've been meaning to get another copy for like two months now.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14497169 - 05/23/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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unam sanctum said:
Quote:

Natorade said:
you guys hear about this guy?
23 YEARS... god damn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/23/man-trapped-coma-23-years




Still not much of an existence is it?  I personally wouldn't want to live like that and if the same thing were to happen to me I have to assume I would feel the same way I do now and ask for a large DMT/heroin dose.




yeah exactly, thats the same stance i was taking. theres no fucking way in hell id wanna be trapped in my own mind for 23 years with every single person around me thinking im in a vegetative state.


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    #14497254 - 05/23/11 01:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Didn't you leave Shroomery last week?


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    #14497275 - 05/23/11 01:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

only until the return of the :feelsgoodman: & :feelsbadman:


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Re: What would you do? [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14497590 - 05/23/11 04:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not only just pulling the plug.

Probably if I was a quadriplegic I wouldn't wanna live, I think no one asks to be born but it's everyones own right to decide if they wanna be here or not.

I'm am not anyone to judge what others might be going through, plus I would like to know people would do the same for me if needed.

No friend or relative of mine deserves an endless suffering.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14497860 - 05/23/11 06:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

CosmicFool said:
has anyone read the book "Johnny got his gun"?
it was a store about a war veteran who lost everything
it was written in first person from his point of view



I haven't read the book. I want to see the movie. I knew about it because of Metallica's "One" video. Seems very scary/sad.




Ha, that's actually the same reason I read the book


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