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cda29
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If not PF-tek then what? Please help!
#14494995 - 05/22/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok so i did 1 jar with pf-tek. Really sucessful however I am not satisfied with the yield. I mean that i read a lot on this forum that it's really not effective and there are other methods. This is my question: What other method would you recommend form me (not pf-tek) that would give me nice yield, does not need a freakin' lab and is do'able in house conditions and does not need a lot of equipment? Thx for help, peace!
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velvetmagician
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: cda29]
#14495001 - 05/22/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do a mono tub!
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redcat
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: velvetmagician]
#14495017 - 05/22/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: redcat]
#14495027 - 05/22/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do better cakes! Learn to work with agar before wasting your time with other shit.
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sickofit
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: redcat]
#14495030 - 05/22/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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esquaredx



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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: sickofit]
#14495042 - 05/22/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you do pf tek right, and not use your shitty ms syringes trying to get monsters out of every flush.... You can yield some nice results.
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bbox244
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: esquaredx]
#14495079 - 05/22/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Move on to grains, thats what I did after my first PF grow, then just use cakes when necessary, for like experiments, testing, etc, thats what I do. PF is by far the safest way to grow, but it takes forever and the yields aren't nearly what you will get from grains. If you follow the grain tek right, you don't have to be perfect, there IS some margin for error, you'll be g2g.
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t23

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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! *DELETED* [Re: velvetmagician]
#14495223 - 05/22/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bbox244
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: t23]
#14495274 - 05/22/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Check out DocT-s M/MSG, its a SG style mono with amazing results so I've heard. I cant do it because of temp issues so I use a specially modded SGFC with a zinc screen layer above the perlite to hold my trays. If you have temo probs, i.e. 80 at day, 40 at night, pm me. Otherwise, check out DocT's stuff, it's really quite promising. Now sit back and watch as I get flamed by all the monotub people out there. But for me, SG style tubs have had amazingly consistent results with good FAE, good RH, and perfect fruiting conditions all together. You can easily put trays into a SGFC and have perfect fruiting conditions. Plus, if you do have any contam issues, they will be isolated to a small tray, not your whole batch.
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broken
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: bbox244]
#14495287 - 05/22/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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do about 200 more PF jars. then you might be ready to move forward. one jar dude? do like 20 at a time.
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penhed
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: broken]
#14495336 - 05/22/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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and crumble
Edited by penhed (05/22/11 06:05 PM)
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: penhed]
#14495392 - 05/22/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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First my first go, I inoculated 10-12 jars about every other week. With a total of ~40 jars I had an overwhelming amount of mushrooms in two months time.
I'd say do more cakes.
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Spector
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: esquaredx]
#14495455 - 05/22/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
esquaredx said: Do better cakes! Learn to work with agar before wasting your time with other shit.
this is a very true statement. if you can work with agar, insulate a Perfect "ropey" variety of the cube you've chosen, you can get higher yields. This is what im trying to perfect right now before, like you said, buying and investing on equipment.
search it, its very fascinating. Monos are fun too
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: Spector]
#14495477 - 05/22/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How much did u get off your cake-14 grams over 2 flushes is not uncommon - usually moar!!!! Do more cakes- Cakes yeild the most per weight of substrate-
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sickofit
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: 2jew4u]
#14495518 - 05/22/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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2jew4u said: -Cakes yeild the most per weight of substrate-
Wasn't there a formula somewhere that was X weight in substrate equals X in wet/dry yield for cubes. I must do some looking, i think it was a PDF and I'm sure there was another one for parameter of monotubs and other neat notes
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: sickofit]
#14496086 - 05/22/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea BE, biological effieciency. Wet mushrooms / dry sub i believe.
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t23

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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! *DELETED* [Re: sickofit]
#14497452 - 05/23/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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velvetmagician
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: t23]
#14498088 - 05/23/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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2jew4u
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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! [Re: velvetmagician]
#14498104 - 05/23/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tru tubs make their own humidity or what not, But a mini green house cakes you cant beat it- and if you have one bad cake you can take it out, tub if one jar has bacteria or what ever, the whole thing does- Pluss you have to wait, an extra 10-15 days for colonization, then fruits- where you can turn fruits every 15-25 days with cakes not 30-45 days- but go with what ever you feel is better for u
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t23

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Re: If not PF-tek then what? Please help! *DELETED* [Re: 2jew4u]
#14498216 - 05/23/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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