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Distinction and Relation
#14494715 - 05/22/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think that pretty much covers the dynamics of the nature of reality.
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So reality is binary?
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: Poid]
#14495081 - 05/22/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yup, that about covers it
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That covers it in the same way that a cloud covers the sun.
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14497331 - 05/23/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oweyervishice said: That covers it in the same way that a cloud covers the sun.
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fireworks_god said: I think that pretty much covers the dynamics of the nature of reality. 
Can we close the forum now?
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Please do.
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What distinguishes distinction from relation, and what relation does relation have with distinction?
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: xFrockx]
#14499418 - 05/23/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: So reality is binary? 
I don't think so.
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Oweyervishice said: That covers it in the same way that a cloud covers the sun.
Clever, but I hope you realize that "that pretty much covers it" was expressed tongue-in-cheek. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: Can we close the forum now?
As if the dynamics of the nature of reality is the only thing talked about here.
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xFrockx said: What distinguishes distinction from relation, and what relation does relation have with distinction?
I'll reply to you later.
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As if the dynamics of the nature of reality is the only thing talked about here.
When one has already solved the riddles of existence it is hard not to wander a bit.
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"I'll reply to you later."
I'll be waiting with bated breath.
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: xFrockx] 1
#14500743 - 05/23/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You could try mouthwash.
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fireworks_god said: I think that pretty much covers the dynamics of the nature of reality. 
So fireworks. let me ask a question if you will.
Are distinction and relation two seperate things or just two aspects of a whole? Similar to head and tails on a coin.
Thank you,
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: xFrockx]
#14502987 - 05/24/11 05:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: What distinguishes distinction from relation, and what relation does relation have with distinction?
Distinction refers to the notion that reality, as it might seem to be, is comprised of all sorts of elements which have a distinct identity, of which other elements cannot share as their own. Relation refers to the notion that each of these elements exist in a state of constant interaction with the other elements which comprise reality, and that each of their existence could not be without the presence of, and interaction with, the other elements.
The description of that which was referred to as relation describes well enough the response to your second question.
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: SlashOZ]
#14503012 - 05/24/11 06:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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SlashOZ said: Are distinction and relation two seperate things or just two aspects of a whole? Similar to head and tails on a coin.
I don't think that they are separate things, in that they can't be defined, or seemingly manifest, separately.
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fireworks_god said:
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xFrockx said: What distinguishes distinction from relation, and what relation does relation have with distinction?
Distinction refers to the notion that reality, as it might seem to be, is comprised of all sorts of elements which have a distinct identity, of which other elements cannot share as their own. Relation refers to the notion that each of these elements exist in a state of constant interaction with the other elements which comprise reality, and that each of their existence could not be without the presence of, and interaction with, the other elements.
The description of that which was referred to as relation describes well enough the response to your second question.
How does The Secret fit into all of this?
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"is comprised of all sorts of elements which have a distinct identity"
How many elements are there if all have a distinct identity? How big are they?
"Relation refers to the notion that each of these elements exist in a state of constant interaction with the other elements which comprise reality, and that each of their existence could not be without the presence of, and interaction with, the other elements."
Same question, how many are there, and how big are they?
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: xFrockx]
#14513798 - 05/26/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: How many elements are there if all have a distinct identity?
I'm not in a position to quantify this. 
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How big are they?
It's relative.
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"I'm not in a position to quantify this."
Then how do you know there are really elements (plural) at all?
"It's relative."
So some are bigger than others? How do they stay different sizes?
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Re: Distinction and Relation [Re: xFrockx]
#14515174 - 05/26/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: Then how do you know there are really elements (plural) at all?
Distinction. A cat is not a chair. Distinguishing that points towards more than one element.
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"It's relative."
So some are bigger than others? How do they stay different sizes?
It's a matter of perspective. Due to relation.
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