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Too creepy even for Google
#14493351 - 05/22/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Too creepy even for Google': Search engine boss warns governments against facial recognition technology
The executive chairman of Google has warned governments against facial recognition technology - saying it is 'too creepy' even for the search engine.
Eric Schmidt said that the technology has advanced rapidly in recent years and that it could be rolled out across the internet.
But the controversial technique has angered privacy campaigners who claim that it would be a further erosion of privacy and civil liberties.......
Read more.......
I hear they are going to start using this facial recognition on the streets soon as well for advertisements. I for one do not like this shit at all and think it has no business in everyday life. The fuck brah!?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
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This one of the reasons I thought the RFID thing was just goofy hysteria, I knew facial recognition was going to happen very soon.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14493400 - 05/22/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Time to buy a hoodie!
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14493402 - 05/22/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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with the facial recognition thing, they can identify you easily. even if you wear a disguise,they'll spot you instantly.
welcome to the NWO world, no privacy allowed.
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that is pretty creepy lol i could see google maps/ earth/ whatever seeing me and my friends smoking weed in the woods
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: ifoundwaldo] 2
#14493423 - 05/22/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
ifoundwaldo said: Time to buy a hoodie!
"When hoodies are outlawed, only outlaw will wear hoodies."
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Edited by Doc_T (05/22/11 02:01 PM)
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T] 4
#14493440 - 05/22/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's times like these where I wish I didn't have a face.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14493444 - 05/22/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i bet this techonology is already in use.
they have us by the balls, man
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Salomon]
#14493455 - 05/22/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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do i smell a conspiracy
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14493469 - 05/22/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Doc_T said:
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ifoundwaldo said: Time to buy a hoodie!
"When hoodies are outlawed, only outlaw sill wear hoodies."

but seriously wtf
i dont know what to say
should i start prepping Molotovs deadhearts?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Devlish2]
#14493480 - 05/22/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Devlish2 said: It's times like these where I wish I didn't have a face.
start wearing a fawkes mask all the time
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Salomon]
#14493483 - 05/22/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe that is the only viable option left.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Micawber]
#14493486 - 05/22/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Micawber said:
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Doc_T said:
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ifoundwaldo said: Time to buy a hoodie!
"When hoodies are outlawed, only outlaw sill wear hoodies."

but seriously wtf
i dont know what to say
should i start prepping Molotovs deadhearts?
"Sooner or later, Someone is going to have to do something"
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14493492 - 05/22/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You forgot the rest of your quote
"...and hopefully it won't be me."
-Deadhearts
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Devlish2]
#14493505 - 05/22/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Devlish2 said: You forgot the rest of your quote
"...and hopefully it won't be me."
-Deadhearts


I wish it was me. I just dont know what to do. Its going to come down to shit getting so bad where many many people cant deal with it any longer.
I am one man. I stand up. Im in jail.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14493524 - 05/22/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm just joshing you. In all due time, my friend.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14493539 - 05/22/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I bet everyone on the Shroomery is on a terrorist watch-list too.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: unam sanctum] 2
#14493558 - 05/22/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I bet the entirety of the American population is on the terrorist watch list too.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Devlish2]
#14493609 - 05/22/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Devlish2 said: I bet the entirety of the American population is on the terrorist watch list too.
For real lol.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14493617 - 05/22/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm still waiting to get that google chip put in my brain.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Connor4050]
#14493733 - 05/22/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Connor4050 said: I'm still waiting to get that google chip put in my brain.
Yeah.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14493819 - 05/22/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just some routine face-saving, I guarantee Google will incorporate this eventually, and probably already intends on doing so.
Google is practically an intelligence agency in itself.
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SpiritualSnorkel said: Just some routine face-saving, I guarantee Google will incorporate this eventually, and probably already intends on doing so.
Google is practically an intelligence agency in itself.
Well one Julian Assange good friends Jacob Appelbaum. A notorious hacker among other things says he loves google but he said he does not trust what they might turn into in the future.
This is from rollingstone article.....
"I love Google," he says. "And I love the people there. Sergey Brin and Larry Page are cool. But I'm terrified of the next generation that takes over. A benevolent dictatorship is still a dictatorship. At some point people are going to realize that Google has everything on everyone. Most of all, they can see what questions you're asking, in real time. Quite literally, they can read your mind."
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14494039 - 05/22/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So Google = Big Brother?
Damnit George Orwell...
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this is def already in use
they have released some tech to facebook, i've heard that the cameras in football stadiums can id a thousand people in under 20 seconds
this is nothing new..
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Quote:
the human abstract said:
this is nothing new..
Oh, guess we should not talk about it then.
But this is indeed new. It has yet to truly surface in our everyday lives especially in a way that the article suggests.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14494144 - 05/22/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also casinos do it. Banks will soon.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14494239 - 05/22/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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We just need to adopt the Bhurqa as part of modern clothing, i think its called being culturally diverse
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14494243 - 05/22/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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the human abstract said:
this is nothing new..
Oh, guess we should not talk about it then.
But this is indeed new. It has yet to truly surface in our everyday lives especially in a way that the article suggests.
i am going to be a spy one day and bring down big brother 
thanks deadhearts i almost forgot my plan
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: GGTBod]
#14494250 - 05/22/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I was studying computer programming back in the 90's I saw this coming. Some programming problems are impossible, others just require a lot of money. Facial recognition has long been known to be in the second category, you could do it with a big enough, fast enough, computer.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14494363 - 05/22/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fucking criminals controlling the world !
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Withinity] 2
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I disagree with doc_turd. The big enough fast enough computer problem has always been surmountable with innovative programming. Programming is all about summing up things mathematically and telling a computer how to recognize a face is basically a mathematical formula. Stronger computers just make bruting easier. With the new technology coming out processing power is going to jump exponentially the way it did back in the day but now you have methods of programming that are so slick and innovative it's just enough to make you wanna jerk off. The two together make something like facial recognition a breeze. The real challenge in making this world a real minority report is building a machine that makes perfectly polished little wooden balls.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Fungal-one]
#14494450 - 05/22/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fungal-one said: I disagree with doc_turd. The big enough fast enough computer problem has always been surmountable with innovative programming. Programming is all about summing up things mathematically and telling a computer how to recognize a face is basically a mathematical formula. Stronger computers just make bruting easier. With the new technology coming out processing power is going to jump exponentially the way it did back in the day but now you have methods of programming that are so slick and innovative it's just enough to make you wanna jerk off. The two together make something like facial recognition a breeze. The real challenge in making this world a real minority report is building a machine that makes perfectly polished little wooden balls.

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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Fungal-one]
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 2
#14494490 - 05/22/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said: Its going to come down to shit getting so bad where many many people cant deal with it any longer.
I am one man. I stand up. Im in jail.
, you're such a stereotypical fearmonger.
Are things really that bad for the average American? I personally can't complain too much, you're making it seem like everybody in the US is gravely suffering.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid] 1
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Poid said:
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DeadHearts said: Its going to come down to shit getting so bad where many many people cant deal with it any longer.
I am one man. I stand up. Im in jail.
, you're such a stereotypical fear monger.
Are things really that bad for the average American? I personally can't complain too much, you're making it seem like everybody in the US is gravely suffering. 
Fear monger?? Hardly. I just want people to be aware. That does not mean you should be fucking scared. If you are scared then you are screwed anyways.
You're comment is that of a stereotypical "sheep"
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14494519 - 05/22/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Everything is fine nothing bad will ever happen
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14494540 - 05/22/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said: You're comment is that of a stereotypical "sheep"
How so?
PS--"You're"
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14494542 - 05/22/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Fungal-one] 1
#14494549 - 05/22/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ooops. I used bad grammar on the internet. Ya got me.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14494558 - 05/22/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Would you care to answer my question? How was my comment like that of a stereotypical sheep?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
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I'm not too worried, shit like this pops up all the time. I could spend every day of my life being worried about big brother. But that would be a waste of my life, wouldn't it?
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There's no need to worry until something that Big Brother does actually causes your quality of life to decline..I personally can't imagine how Big Brother's usage of facial recognition technology could cause my quality of life to decline. If anything, it'll help remove dangerous criminals from the street.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
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It's the definition of dangerous criminal that is troubling. Besides, if you were a fugitive from say, a drug charge, youd be pretty fucking nervous about that webacm you didnt even know was attached to the lid of your laptop.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Fungal-one]
#14494634 - 05/22/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's that I hear? Oh, it's simply privacy dying. Who cares.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Devlish2]
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Privacy has been dead, as has been real justice and a legal system that made any fucking sense.
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Fungal-one said: It's the definition of dangerous criminal that is troubling.
IMO, a dangerous criminal is one who is a danger to the safety of others.
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Fungal-one said: Besides, if you were a fugitive from say, a drug charge, youd be pretty fucking nervous about that webacm you didnt even know was attached to the lid of your laptop.
Yeah, but I'm not..it's kind of paranoid to believe that the government is going to secretly place webcams on people's private computers and use facial recognition software to catch them committing crimes red-handed.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Fungal-one]
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Fungal-one said: Privacy has been dead, as has been real justice and a legal system that made any fucking sense.
And the American people remain unfazed
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
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I don't think policing is the right word. But, if your webcam could identify you easily and the 'authorities' knew how to wait for you, you'd pop up. A quick example; I was just looking around for glass cylinders I could use in a project (inserting gerbils in to my rectum). I thought about a glass baster, so I hit amazon. Have a look at the bottom where it says people who bought this also bought this. I'm sure you can pick out what most people who bought this were up to.
http://www.amazon.com/Norpro-5897-Glass-Baster/dp/B0000CFSHX
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Devlish2]
#14494671 - 05/22/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Devlish2 said: What's that I hear? Oh, it's simply privacy dying. Who cares.
Really? You think the government is going to spend its time/money/resources on spying on your privacy just for the hell of it? This technology is most likely going to be used to assist law-enforcement in catching criminals, it's very doubtful that it's going to be used to spy on innocent people's lives.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Devlish2]
#14494680 - 05/22/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Devlish2 said: What's that I hear? Oh, it's simply privacy dying. Who cares.
When were facial features ever private?
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unam sanctum said: I bet everyone on the Shroomery is on a terrorist watch-list too.
The entire government is on my terrorist watch list.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14494688 - 05/22/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Again, almost every single one of us are what the cops would call criminals.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Fungal-one]
#14494698 - 05/22/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fungal-one said: I don't think policing is the right word.
I never said that word. 
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Fungal-one said: But, if your webcam could identify you easily and the 'authorities' knew how to wait for you, you'd pop up.
Can you please clarify what you mean in the emboldened portion?
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Fungal-one said: A quick example; I was just looking around for glass cylinders I could use in a project (inserting gerbils in to my rectum). I thought about a glass baster, so I hit amazon. Have a look at the bottom where it says people who bought this also bought this. I'm sure you can pick out what most people who bought this were up to.
http://www.amazon.com/Norpro-5897-Glass-Baster/dp/B0000CFSHX
I still don't know WTF you're talking about..you're saying that cops will spy on us using our own webcams?
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Fungal-one said: Again, almost every single one of us are what the cops would call criminals.
Alright, then why bitch about facial recognition software itself? What you should be bitching about are the laws that you feel are oppressive..facial recognition software can't be blamed for your ass going to jail for possession.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid] 2
#14494703 - 05/22/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: There's no need to worry until something that Big Brother does actually causes your quality of life to decline..I personally can't imagine how Big Brother's usage of facial recognition technology could cause my quality of life to decline. If anything, it'll help remove dangerous criminals from the street.

Double-edged policies and technology are implemented incrementally expressly for people like you who have no sense of principle, no foresight (or sight), and no sense of the pot their sitting in slowly being brought to boil.
Your quality of life hasn't been affected yet, but maybe it will be affected soon, when all of those said policies which remained under-utilized are put into operation to make you a slave to the state. 
Just sayin'... Berlin was a pretty culturally and economically rich city before the shit hit the fan too. We don't even have that luxury. We've got a depression and an Olive Garden.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14494707 - 05/22/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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SpiritualSnorkel said: Your quality of life hasn't been affected yet, but maybe it will be affected soon, when all of those said policies which remained under-utilized are put into operation to make you a slave to the state. 
Nah, I'm not too worried about becoming a slave to the state, considering that the state is going to give me free money for the rest of my life. 
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SpiritualSnorkel said: Just sayin'... Berlin was a pretty culturally and economically rich city before the shit hit the fan too. We don't even have that luxury. We've got a depression and an Olive Garden.
I've got an MMJ prescription, free government money, a subsidized apartment, and free food. For life.
So yeah, I have nothing to worry about, which is largely why I do not spew out a bunch of nonsensical schizophrenic tin-foilery.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14494721 - 05/22/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I still don't know WTF you're talking about..you're saying that cops will spy on us using our own webcams?
Yes. Also uploaded images that Google finds that are yours. And Google will find them. And public surveillance videos. And traffic cameras. Etc, etc, etc. Google is vast.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14494729 - 05/22/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not bitching. I'm just adding my own special blend of troll spices to the conversation. I'm just sayin', if I were a cop and I wanted to catch some fugitive for say mushroom cultivating, I know thats far fetched but bear with me, I don't think it would that hard to run that code on every computer that googled or visited such a site. I'm not saying that will happen I'm just sayin it could and it wouldnt be hard.
I'm not worried about it. I'm almost always a fugitive anyway. Hell, I have warrants now from another state. Good luck catching me, though. I leave one hell of a scattered paper trail. It's good to have friends all over the country.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14494736 - 05/22/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I still don't know WTF you're talking about..you're saying that cops will spy on us using our own webcams?
Yes.
Even though it's illegal, and even though any illegally obtained evidence won't hold up in court?
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Doc_T said: Also uploaded images that Google finds that are yours. And Google will find them. And public surveillance videos. And traffic cameras. Etc, etc, etc. Google is vast.
So what are they going to do with all this stuff? What proof do you have, and why should I be concerned?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid] 1
#14494755 - 05/22/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't see how your living off the government discredits any of this as nonsensical tinfoil-hattery. So, you have marijuana and you're leeching off the system, good for you.
Sounds to me like you simply have no desire to learn about any of this because you're blazed and pretty comfortable.
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SpiritualSnorkel said: I don't see how your living off the government discredits any of this as nonsensical tinfoil-hattery.
It doesn't, and I never implied it did..all it does is help me not be an irrational moron when it comes to matters regarding the government.
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SpiritualSnorkel said: Sounds to me like you simply have no desire to learn about any of this because you're blazed and pretty comfortable.
I have no desire to learn from the perspective of a paranoid fearmonger.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14494793 - 05/22/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: So what are they going to do with all this stuff? What proof do you have, and why should I be concerned?
They are going to correlate it. Proof is in the ads that come with GMail, and a lot of other creepy things. Concern is optional.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14494796 - 05/22/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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SpiritualSnorkel said: I don't see how your living off the government discredits any of this as nonsensical tinfoil-hattery.
It doesn't, and I never implied it did..all it does is help me not be an irrational moron when it comes to matters regarding the government.
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SpiritualSnorkel said: Sounds to me like you simply have no desire to learn about any of this because you're blazed and pretty comfortable.
I have no desire to learn from the perspective of a paranoid fearmonger.
Except nobody is fear-mongering or being particularly paranoid.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14494802 - 05/22/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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I still don't know WTF you're talking about..you're saying that cops will spy on us using our own webcams?
Yes. Also uploaded images that Google finds that are yours. And Google will find them. And public surveillance videos. And traffic cameras. Etc, etc, etc. Google is vast.
Google is also partners with NSA and the CIA.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14494806 - 05/22/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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1984 bitches!!!!!!
I wonder how long until they put advertisements in our dreams....
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Google pwns the CIA.
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Doc_T said:
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I still don't know WTF you're talking about..you're saying that cops will spy on us using our own webcams?
Yes. Also uploaded images that Google finds that are yours. And Google will find them. And public surveillance videos. And traffic cameras. Etc, etc, etc. Google is vast.
Google is also partners with DHS and the CIA.
Yep, as I said earlier, they're practically an intelligence agency in themselves, more so than anything else.
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Led Zeppelin said: 1984 bitches!!!!!!
I wonder how long until they put advertisements in our dreams....
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Devlish2]
#14494936 - 05/22/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Devlish2 said: It's times like these where I wish I didn't have a face.
LOL, go to a dubstep show and eat some doses
your face will be melted lol
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14494955 - 05/22/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was doing some research on facial recognition last year.
There really isn't a whole lot to be concerned about right now. You can get facial recognition to work pretty damn well under certain constraints, but those constraints are pretty limiting. It's not really useful on a wide-scale basis.
Also, take into account that even in places like the UK where cameras are ever-damn-where, the quality of captured images together with inconsistencies in environmental conditions, appearance, and the sheer amount of data involved in attempted to classify among an entire population make it a pretty minimal treat. There's only so many features to use to distinguish amongst individuals, only so many of those are reliably static for people, and there are too many similarities and correlations for it to work well.
Conversely, it would be much, much easier to be able to track movements of anyone in such a largely camera-laden area, although they may not be able to tell who you are. If you wanted to fear something, I'd be a lot more concerned about that for now.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: bosch]
#14494981 - 05/22/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bosch said: I was doing some research on facial recognition last year.
There really isn't a whole lot to be concerned about right now. You can get facial recognition to work pretty damn well under certain constraints, but those constraints are pretty limiting. It's not really useful on a wide-scale basis.
True, but it's a simple matter of money. Put enough processors on the job and you can do it.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14495052 - 05/22/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's not really true actually. The reason why is basically the same as why you can't just keep compressing a file over and over again and have it get smaller and smaller; there is only so much actual information there, and the rest is entropy, which can safely be ignored.
Given a constant set of images or image streams, if there is insufficient information between them to be able to reasonably classify among the population with a decent success rate, then that won't change no matter how much processing power you throw at the problem.
In fact, too much data processing leads to over-fitting, which will actually lessen the effectiveness of the system.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: bosch] 1
#14495077 - 05/22/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They should run facial recognition on the fake Osama bin Laden videos.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Poid]
#14495304 - 05/22/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: Would you care to answer my question? How was my comment like that of a stereotypical sheep?
Because you think everything is fine and nothing will come of these "small injustices".
And again I am not fear mongering what so ever. If you are scared then thats on you. I just want people to be AWARE.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14495324 - 05/22/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Everything is fine. Nothing will come of this and it is not an injustice in the first place. I'm not a sheeple.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 1
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#14495333 - 05/22/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Everything is fine.
You're kidding right?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said: Everything is fine. Nothing will come of this and it is not an injustice in the first place. I'm not a sheeple.
I think its an infringement of my personal privacy and I dont like it. Thats it. Who knows what else they will decide to use this kind of information for down the road. Awareness FTW.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14495361 - 05/22/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Again, your facial features never were private to begin with.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T] 2
#14495373 - 05/22/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Again, your facial features never were private to begin with.
But using them to possibly track your whereabouts, is an invasion of privacy.IMO
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14495381 - 05/22/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Again, your facial features never were private to begin with.
They are until they use them to decide what advertisements to throw in my face without my consent. Thats only the beginning.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14495383 - 05/22/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cops or ordinary citizens could track you by eye and log your location. This automates something which currently exists in manual form.
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Doc_T said: Again, your facial features never were private to begin with.
But using them to possibly track your whereabouts, is an invasion of privacy.IMO
You might as well explain this to your dog.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Fungal-one]
#14495406 - 05/22/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Cops or ordinary citizens could track you by eye and log your location. This automates something which currently exists in manual form.

Do not ignore what i said...
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DeadHearts said: They are until they use them to decide what advertisements to throw in my face without my consent. Thats only the beginning.
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Doc_T said: Again, your facial features never were private to begin with.
But using them to possibly track your whereabouts, is an invasion of privacy.IMO
You might as well explain this to your dog.
Indeed.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14496162 - 05/22/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Search engines themselves are tools made up by intelligence agencies to spy the internet.
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Vsnares.Zappa said: Search engines themselves are tools made up by intelligence agencies to spy the internet.
The internet itself is a spying machine. You don't have to use a search engine for your isp to track what you visit.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14496308 - 05/22/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you don't want someone watching you, disconnect your webcam if you have one. If you don't, don't get one in the first place.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14496388 - 05/22/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: This one of the reasons I thought the RFID thing was just goofy hysteria, I knew facial recognition was going to happen very soon.
its fairly obvious those two things are inevitable, the problem here is how to stop/slow this slow erosion of our privacy, as we slowly accept the things that tear us apart when we finally split in two we'll be welcoming the shenanigans that follow.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: snoot]
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Le_Canard]
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ToiletDuk said: If you don't want someone watching you, disconnect your webcam if you have one. If you don't, don't get one in the first place.
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Oh? Mind telling how they're going to identify your face without one?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Le_Canard]
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Seriously?? Wtf dude?
Nothing to add but illogical statements and a poopy banana?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14498461 - 05/23/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I see both sides, but if post 9/11 policy is any indicator the "invasions" (which I see them as) are only going to become more prevalent.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: snoot]
#14498683 - 05/23/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: This one of the reasons I thought the RFID thing was just goofy hysteria, I knew facial recognition was going to happen very soon.
its fairly obvious those two things are inevitable, the problem here is how to stop/slow this slow erosion of our privacy,
I don't accept the premise of your statement, and I wish (all of) you would stop asserting it as fact.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14498722 - 05/23/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What suggests to you that security measures and invasions of privacy will relax?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said: This one of the reasons I thought the RFID thing was just goofy hysteria, I knew facial recognition was going to happen very soon.
its fairly obvious those two things are inevitable, the problem here is how to stop/slow this slow erosion of our privacy,
I don't accept the premise of your statement, and I wish (all of) you would stop asserting it as fact.
I only say is, cause most of the technology is here already, being implemented slowly, these so called 'debates' seem to be just a way of warming us up to this next level of digital molestation.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: snoot] 1
#14499356 - 05/23/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, unfortunately a lot of useful tools can also erode privacy either in the exact same or differing implementations. And, once the technology exists, -someone- will be using it for that purpose no matter what you do about it.
Really, the best or perhaps only realistic thing you can do is learn to have good data hygiene. Leave as little data around as possible, and that which you do, leave as generic as possible.
Alternatively, you could simply dump all your private information out in the open and nobody will even give a fuck because they're too lazy to sift through it and will assume that you're not willing to put your worst out in the open.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: bosch] 1
#14499387 - 05/23/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nothing is eroding anybody's privacy here- you never had "privacy from facial recognition" to begin with. You have the same rights today as you did yesterday, all that has changed is your fear level.
When you are afraid, they win. So don't be afraid. Recite the Litany Against Fear if you need to.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Doc_T]
#14499509 - 05/23/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's a difference between being afraid and being aware.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14499722 - 05/23/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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im getting more afraid of being aware 
if earth changes effected the individual then humans would not be as advanced as we are
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Good thing it's still legal to have your face concealed in public places.
Business' is another story obviously
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the human abstract said: if earth changes effected the individual then humans would not be as advanced as we are
we think we are civilised, in fact we are just ignorant fools.We all live by our selfish desires and couldn't care less of the fate of the world or our own.(the vast majority) Also, all the changes occuring in the biodiversity of nature is directly diminishing our chances of survival.
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the human abstract said: if earth changes effected the individual then humans would not be as advanced as we are
we think we are civilised, in fact we are just ignorant fools.We all live by our selfish desires and couldn't care less of the fate of the world or our own.(the vast majority) Also, all the changes occuring in the biodiversity of nature is directly diminishing our chances of survival.
Its true. Even tho I mean well I am just another fucking ape with hopes and dreams.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14502297 - 05/24/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have an idea. Take down your web cam!
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Locky]
#14502304 - 05/24/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah because that solves all of the problems even remotely associated with this right?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14502316 - 05/24/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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aeh im to messed up atm must of read something worng, wayyy wrong
Thanks for the
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Locky]
#14502339 - 05/24/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the 
I get the all the time.
Its quite alright 
Were all in this together Mayng!
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14502352 - 05/24/11 12:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah i should read stuff before i post 
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Locky]
#14502361 - 05/24/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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In Metro Detroit Michigan the moon is about at half and covered by misty clouds. Life id good.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14502365 - 05/24/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awh yeah, so do they have bannana's?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Locky]
#14502374 - 05/24/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Locky said: Awh yeah, so do they have bannana's?
Not all of them. Some of them do but it doesnt seem to help anyways.
Chea/
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
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Deep frying is a cooking method in which food is submerged in hot oil or fat. This is normally performed with a deep fryer or chip pan; industrially, a pressure fryer or vacuum fryer may be used. Deep frying is classified as a dry cooking method because no water is used. Due to the high temperature involved and the high heat conduction of oil, it cooks food extremely quickly.
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Locky]
#14502404 - 05/24/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some men sit down when they take a piss. This is not fully understood but sometimes happens when a man is not able to stand after too much alcohol consumption and embarrasses himself in front of his friends/homeboys.
beyond poor*
Beyond ostracized
Destined to be obscured
Beyond right in your offset eyes
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14502463 - 05/24/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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For sure bro
Why cant i rate you?!?
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Locky]
#14502478 - 05/24/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why cant i rate you?!?
You already did man
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: DeadHearts]
#14502490 - 05/24/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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black tape on the camera from now on
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Re: Too creepy even for Google [Re: Locky]
#14502648 - 05/24/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol this reminds me of this speeding ticket my dad got in the mail. THE FUCKING MAIL!!!! This is the conversation we had when he opened it DAD: WTF! I wasnt even pulled over ME: Look, they say you got busted on a traffic camera DAD: But I never speed ME: Oh look, they have a URL address where you can watch yourself speeding DAD: Shit
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Poid said: There's no need to worry until something that Big Brother does actually causes your quality of life to decline..I personally can't imagine how Big Brother's usage of facial recognition technology could cause my quality of life to decline. If anything, it'll help remove dangerous criminals from the street.

Double-edged policies and technology are implemented incrementally expressly for people like you who have no sense of principle, no foresight (or sight), and no sense of the pot their sitting in slowly being brought to boil.
Your quality of life hasn't been affected yet, but maybe it will be affected soon, when all of those said policies which remained under-utilized are put into operation to make you a slave to the state. 
Just sayin'... Berlin was a pretty culturally and economically rich city before the shit hit the fan too. We don't even have that luxury. We've got a depression and an Olive Garden.

If it is implemented, and it most likely already is on a small scale, it may be only used for the capture of fugitives and the prevention of crime. The ones who bring it in initially may have true intentions but they wont be around forever, having such a tool implemented by a site like facebook or google completely centralizes the power and leaves it vulnerable for abuse. Hitler advocated the gun registry as a means to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals, his true intentions eventually surfaced. Thats just a example but having the power to able to identify the location and identity of every single individual of the entire populace of a nation within hours and to have the ability to initiate a inescapable tracking net on any one person, minority, homegrown-"Terrorist" or ethnic group with a few simple commands is rather, worrisome.
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