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Adam553
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artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun)
#14453069 - 05/14/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: Adam553]
#14453099 - 05/14/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like artificial light. Simply because it can be anywhere in my house
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: BargainBab]
#14453105 - 05/14/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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do mushrooms benefit from sunlight more than artificial light? by far i think artificial light is much easier, but i wonder if they would benefit from natural sunlight
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: Adam553]
#14453170 - 05/14/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I myself haven't noticed any difference except it's easier to grow them directly upwards with artificial light
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: Adam553]
#14453177 - 05/14/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can't beat natural light period...pot growers have been trying for years but you can't duplicate the sun
as for ease you can't beat artificial
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: steelmonkey]
#14453184 - 05/14/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Both
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: Adam553]
#14453210 - 05/14/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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both are great for mushrooms with artificial light its easy to make a 12/12 cycle anywhere on your house.
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: steelmonkey]
#14453585 - 05/14/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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steelmonkey said: You can't beat natural light period...pot growers have been trying for years but you can't duplicate the sun
as for ease you can't beat artificial
As a MJ cultivator as well, i would agree for the most part.
But, as I understand it (and i welcome a correction) light has little effect on mushrooms aside from orientation (it influences the direction they grow in, as do other variables such as fresh air). In fact, direct sunlight is actually harmful in some cases.
Edited by KrizzKaliko (05/14/11 09:21 PM)
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: KrizzKaliko]
#14454026 - 05/14/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You are correct direct sunlight will fry shrooms and light is not nearly as a important factor compared to MJ but fruits do store up energy from light not in the photosynthesis way plants do but they do store energy,I'm sure you've noticed that both MJ and mushroom fruit bodies do most of their growing during the dark period(night)
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: steelmonkey]
#14454585 - 05/15/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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indirect sun light works best for me. Where I live we have 24 hour day light in the summer and 3 hours in the winter. Both seem to work better than artificial light for me.
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: steelmonkey]
#14454652 - 05/15/11 02:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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steelmonkey said: You are correct direct sunlight will fry shrooms and light is not nearly as a important factor compared to MJ but fruits do store up energy from light not in the photosynthesis way plants do but they do store energy,I'm sure you've noticed that both MJ and mushroom fruit bodies do most of their growing during the dark period(night)
I haven't noticed yet, but im still waiting on my first set of pins ;D cant wait til im
All i was doing was regurgitating a bit of what i have read, hence why i try to stress my noobness.
As for storing energy in the shroom via light, i was not aware of this, and i will be looking into it now out of my own curiosity.
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: steelmonkey]
#14454702 - 05/15/11 02:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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steelmonkey said: fruits do store up energy from light not in the photosynthesis way plants do but they do store energy
Citation needed.
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: MeltingPenguin]
#14454773 - 05/15/11 03:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: KrizzKaliko]
#14455192 - 05/15/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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KrizzKaliko said:
But, as I understand it (and i welcome a correction) light has little effect on mushrooms aside from orientation (it influences the direction they grow in, as do other variables such as fresh air). In fact, direct sunlight is actually harmful in some cases.
You misunderstand it. Light has little to do with orientation other than that mycelium is deriving energy from the light and orients the caps towards it for maximum benefit. Mushrooms grown in total darkness will be weak, light and thin, but will grow straight up, away from gravity.
For best results, a few minutes of direct sunlight per day will work wonders, along with 12 hours of bright, but diffused light. Whether it comes from a lamp or the sun makes little difference indoors. Most mushrooms in nature fruit in areas where they get at least some direct sun each day.
For those of you using artificial lighting, look for 6500 kelvin color temperature. It's proved best for mushroom growing. RR
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14455907 - 05/15/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
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KrizzKaliko said:
But, as I understand it (and i welcome a correction) light has little effect on mushrooms aside from orientation (it influences the direction they grow in, as do other variables such as fresh air). In fact, direct sunlight is actually harmful in some cases.
You misunderstand it. Light has little to do with orientation other than that mycelium is deriving energy from the light and orients the caps towards it for maximum benefit. Mushrooms grown in total darkness will be weak, light and thin, but will grow straight up, away from gravity.
For best results, a few minutes of direct sunlight per day will work wonders, along with 12 hours of bright, but diffused light. Whether it comes from a lamp or the sun makes little difference indoors. Most mushrooms in nature fruit in areas where they get at least some direct sun each day.
For those of you using artificial lighting, look for 6500 kelvin color temperature. It's proved best for mushroom growing. RR
Thanks a bunch RR!
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: KrizzKaliko]
#14491479 - 05/21/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Will i be ok to grow using a 7100k bulb?
also some people say they grow with 4 watt bulbs, other people say you need BRIGHT BULBS.
i have also found this chart online, but cant find the answer on how many Lumens is best for a large Tupperware with cakes.
incandecent 60w = 840 lumens showcase lamp 60T10/64 60w = 710 lumens cool white fluorescent f40t12/cw 40w = 3,120 lumens swimming pool R-40 lamp 12v 250w = 4,000 lumens yellow insect-repellent 40w = 450lumens
I also found an led bulb which is a 320 lumen bulb with 6500k that would for sure save on electricity, but dont know if that would be enough lumens. I had also read to stay away from bulbs that get hot such as this led bulb. I would imagine that for most growers they will use their light bulb as part of the heat source for the operation.
If this question has already been asked or gone over, i feel stupid, but i am at about 4 days of looking online for answers before i spend money, or purchase a light set-up that is just not electric efficient as what it could be. I want to do this right
Edited by RareEnergy (05/21/11 10:35 PM)
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: RareEnergy]
#14491848 - 05/21/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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More wattage is better to a point. You're not growing plants so you don't need a large MH or HPS lamp. For a small terrarium, 13 Watt CFLs work pretty good. You can get them in 'daylight' which is usually around 6500K.
My shiitake mushroom farm is 100% LED powered. They don't get hot at all, only gently warm.
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Re: artificial light, or direct/indirect light (from the sun) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14492260 - 05/22/11 01:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you! , i want to come try your shiitake's some time. (:
Edited by RareEnergy (05/22/11 02:37 PM)
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