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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14484947 - 05/20/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
anyone else think the way they cover this subject on this 60minutes piece is strange?





no, it pretty well explains that there's a large group of dumbasses that
believe they're above the law and are quickly finding out they arent

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: 4runner]
    #14485001 - 05/20/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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anunnakian said:
Wow, your special....

Now you are just baiting.





he doest see that he trolls/baits anyone, well, he claims he doesnt and says the rules are too vague to interpret

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14485054 - 05/20/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
anyone else think the way they cover this subject on this 60minutes piece is strange?





no, it pretty well explains that there's a large group of dumbasses that
believe they're above the law and are quickly finding out they arent




thank you.

i think that associating them in the piece with sovereign citizens shows a misunderstanding of sovereignty. The government derives it's limited powers from it's constituents, the sovereigns, meaning each US citizen is automatically sovereign. Am i mistaken?


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14485139 - 05/20/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

as I stated, I dont think you understand how sovereignty works and would love
to hear your explanation of what it is and how it's supposed to work, surely
if you're defending the principal behind this you'd know what it is and it's
mechanisms of operation

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14485289 - 05/20/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sovereignty comes from authority and power.  It can be legitimately derived through various political systems or through force.  It comes with many rights and responsibilities vis-a-vis the people and territory over which the authority is exercised. 

Didn't watch the video, just freestylin..


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: fbi365]
    #14491294 - 05/21/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sovereign:
6. having supreme rank, power, or authority.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sovereign

alright. wtf do i have wrong here?

the states have limited powers through constitution by the sovereigns.
the federal government has limited powers through constitution by the states.

someone want to help me out? i don't remember the evidence i had to draw this conclusion. it's something i thought i had a grasping of. at least i'm not working at 60min fucking this up.


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491323 - 05/21/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
sovereign:
6. having supreme rank, power, or authority.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sovereign

alright. wtf do i have wrong here?


the states have limited powers through constitution by the sovereigns.
the federal government has limited powers through constitution by the states.

someone want to help me out?





so you understand that an individual is not a sovereign then, it's the
collective of the people that are sovereign, that means your individual
decision doesnt over rule the law or a decision from a judge nor that of a
cop or even of your fellow man while a judge, a jury, the legislative
bodies, etc... do in fact have sovereignty in title and action but not as
people

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i don't remember the evidence i had to draw this conclusion. it's something i thought i had a grasping of. at least i'm not working at 60min fucking this up.




so you have no idea if the 60 minutes piece was trash or truth

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491331 - 05/21/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
i don't remember the evidence i had to draw this conclusion. it's something i thought i had a grasping of. at least i'm not working at 60min fucking this up.




:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14491391 - 05/21/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the people are the sovereigns(ruling over all), therefore an individual person is a sovereign. right?

the title remains with the people even with delegation of powers away from themselves.

i am still confused. thanks for trying.

lolz i like being human. means i can make mistakes and continue on. no such thing as a stupid question. a stupid poorly thought out original post, that's something else


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491415 - 05/21/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
the people are the sovereigns(ruling over all), therefore an individual person is a sovereign. right?




nope... already explained, 'the people' is a collective term



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i am still confused.




because you ignore the answers

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491428 - 05/21/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dude gets put on blast.  "This is all gonna be edited right?"  "Umm no this is all gonna be on the show..." lol


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491445 - 05/21/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Watch this too you won't regret it.


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14491487 - 05/21/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

These guys are retarded. :picard:


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14491574 - 05/21/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
These guys are retarded. :picard:




You mad? You know you want those fucking dreads.

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: linkamathingy] * 1
    #14492565 - 05/22/11 03:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hey dude, don't sweat P#1.

He's that guy at the bar who gets too drunk and aggressive. You'll see no doubt that a great proportion of his posts are confrontational and intended to put people and their ideas down. Certainly not the personality type I am drawn to in a PUB.

It's unfortunate that he has a license to troll which also makes his belligerent posts and circular, tangential arguments infallible.

Chill, open, discussion is not what his moderator-ship creates. Admin take notice.

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: thescientist]
    #14493130 - 05/22/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what you're saying is you dont like when another's opinions are not like your
own, that it would be trolling because you dont agree with it. how open minded

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: thescientist]
    #14495954 - 05/22/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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what you're saying is you dont like when another's opinions are not like your
own, that it would be trolling because you dont agree with it. how open minded





thank you for providing more circular and tangential reasoning, used to create confrontation, and put users down.

your MO is a problem which regularly reduces the enjoyment of the pub by many.

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: thescientist]
    #14496097 - 05/22/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thank you for being a broken troll record, maybe you should stop while you have that option

try discussing the topic at hand instead of trying to bait and attack me

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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14496369 - 05/22/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
what you're saying is you dont like when another's opinions are not like your
own, that it would be trolling because you dont agree with it. how open minded





thank you for providing more circular and tangential reasoning, used to create confrontation, and put users down.

your MO is a problem which regularly reduces the enjoyment of the pub by many.





lol

what user is he 'putting down'? you make no sense, dont attack a fellow user and then fail to make sense. :stonedjerk:

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Watch this too you won't regret it.







among one of the most ridiculous pieces of reporting I've witnessed in a while, obviously they are just picking the most confused and intoxicated people they can find; in hopes to shed a slanted stigma unto these people. :thumbdown:


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Re: sovereignty knowledge? [Re: snoot]
    #14496432 - 05/22/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you'll notice, I made no comment on the quality of reporting- I'm actually pretty disappointed with how mainstream RT is getting so quickly.  However I believe you are lying to me and yourself if say you didn't enjoy watching that.

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