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Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir.
    #14491389 - 05/21/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow, after hours of researching Jesus having been in India, I found out that a certain sect of Islam called Ahmadiyya have a long-held belief that Jesus survived crucifixion and traveled to Kashmir on the Silk Road, and stayed their until he was about 120 years old. He was then buried according to Jewish traditions in Srinigar, Kashmir at a site called Roza Bul. The body is buried pointing towards Jerusalem and there is an image on the tomb of crucified feet.

He is known by the Ahmadiyya as Yuz Asaf:
the name given to a sage entombed at Roza Bal in Srinagar, Kashmir, with the name "Yuz Asaf" being variously interpreted as "Josaphat" by Christians, as the title "Bodhisattva" by Buddhists, and as Kashmiri for "Son of Joseph (Yuz)" (hence Jesus of Nazareth) by others, including Ahmadi Muslims (who, although assigning it to Jesus, assert that it meant "leader of the healed")


I think this has never been mentioned because the Muslims in the area of the tomb have strict views on doing any scientific testing on it and the Christians keep it quiet because it would refute their view that Jesus ascended into heaven.

Unfortunately, there is a large lack of evidence due to these problems.


Here is an excellent article on it.

The articles says some interesting stuff:

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The proposed burial-place of Jesus in Srinagar, Kashmir, is known to the locals as Rozabal, meaning the ‘Honoured Tomb’. It is known as the tomb of this very Yuz Asaf. The word ‘Yuz’ stands for Yuzu (meaning Jesus), and ‘Asaf’ in Hebrew means gatherer, namely, one who was to collect the lost sheep of Israel. It is said that the Prophet Yuz Asaf arrived from Syria about two thousand years ago.




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Jesus did not die on the Cross: he did not go up to heaven, nor should it be supposed that he will ever again come down from heaven to earth; that, rather, he died at the age of 120 years at Srinagar, in Kashmir, and that his tomb is to be found in the Khan Yar Street of that town.




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[...]Jesus did in fact come to India and then, by stages, travelled to Kashmir, and discovered the lost sheep of Israel among the people who professed the Buddhist faith and that these people ultimately accepted him, just as the people of the prophet Jonah accepted Jonah. And this was inevitable, for Jesus had said in so many words that he had been sent to the lost sheep of Israel.’




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Maulawi Abdullah sent a detailed report to the Promised Messiah from Srinagar regarding the tomb.[...]:

‘From the evidence of reliable persons it has been proved that this tomb has been in existence for about 1900 years, and the Muslims hold it in great reverence and respect and frequent it.’


Further adding:


‘The general view is that a venerable messenger is buried in this tomb, who came to Kashmir from another country to preach to the people. They say that he lived some 600 years before our Holy Prophet Muhammad.’




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Modern day opinions of the locals in Srinagar, however, present a very different view of the tomb. Any suggestion that the tomb contains the mortal remains of Jesus Christ is met with fierce hostility and mockery. There has been a hardening of attitudes towards any attempts of research at the tomb.




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‘Near the grave of this prophet of Allah in the right-hand corner there is a stone, which has upon it the footprints of a man. It is said that it is the footsteps of the messenger. Probably this footprint of this prince-prophet remains as a sign.’
“The position of the scars, just behind the toes, do not match each other, but they would align if a single nail was driven through both feet, with the left foot placed on top of the right.”




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The most definitive reference to Yuz Asaf and Jesus Christ being the same person comes in the form of two written inscriptions from a local temple called the Temple of Solomon. The first two lines of the inscription remain today but the last two have been tampered with, rendering them illegible. The four inscriptions were recorded in Tarikh-i-Kashmir by Khwaja Hassan Malik, written in 1420AD. The inscriptions state:

The mason of this pillar is the suppliant Bahishti Zargar, year fifty and four.


Khawaja Rukan, son of Murjan, erected this pillar.


At this time, Yuz Asaf proclaimed his prophethood, year fifty and four.


He is Jesus, Prophet of the Children of Israel.

These inscriptions seem very clear and comprehensive, but there are some questions that remain. How old are the inscriptions? Why were they removed and by whom? Is the year ‘54’ mentioned here representative of 54 AD or 54 A.H, which would be 673 C.E.?

Concerning the year 54, mentioned in the inscriptions cited below, Prof. Fida Hassnain is of the opinion that the dating system used here is the Laukika Era, a system used specifically in Kashmir, which is recorded to have started in 3076BC.

‘During that period, the Laukika Era was exclusively used in Kashmir. As this era started in 3076 BC, the 54th year mentioned in the inscription would come to either 22 BC or 78 AD (since Laukika Year 1 is 3076 BC, 3054 would be 22 BC, and 3154 would be 78 AD.) As it was not possible for Jesus Christ to have travelled to Kashmir in 22 BC, I take the year 78 AD to be the correct date of his arrival






I really recommend reading that article if you want to learn more on this!


So, what do you think? Real or fake?
Is this really the tomb of Jesus?
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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: OverStoned] * 2
    #14491429 - 05/21/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I beleive this is true

he probably traveled there ate some mush and chilled out

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Konyap]
    #14491456 - 05/21/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Konyap]
    #14491471 - 05/21/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

interesting, ty for the article

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: OverStoned]
    #14491504 - 05/21/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I mean, it's possible. I have serious doubts that Jesus ever existed at all, though. There seems to be a mountain of evidence that the story was fabricated and revised at various stages, and an absolute absence of evidence that anybody named "Jesus Christ" ever actually existed. Also, Ahmadiyya is regarded as a fringe heresy by most Muslims, for whatever that's worth.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: OverStoned]
    #14491514 - 05/21/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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My Shangri-La beneath the summer moon, I will return again...
Like the dust that lufts high in June, when moving through Kashmir.





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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: 28064212] * 3
    #14491533 - 05/21/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

why would they bury a mexican in india?


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14491537 - 05/21/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

he would not have been named jesus christ, he's have been referred to as
jesus, the son of joseph, there is a roman record believed to be referencing
jesus as being seditious, this was entered by Tacitus. romans were pretty
thorough about keeping records, this would have been written nearly 70 years
after the crucifixion


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: 28064212]
    #14491550 - 05/21/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

very interesting :etjesus:


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: argg]
    #14491571 - 05/21/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Jesus is man, man buried in india, we are all jesus, makes sense to me.

Jesus is symbol, symbol exists with out borders, so the symbol exist inside and outside of india



With jesus, its not about where, its about when

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14491583 - 05/21/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting....

I kinda wanna see how pissed I can get people by discussing this.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Konyap]
    #14491617 - 05/21/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: 2Cents]
    #14491658 - 05/21/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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2Cents said:
Interesting....

I kinda wanna see how pissed I can get people by discussing this.





so you're trolling and requesting a ban?

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: OverStoned]
    #14491676 - 05/21/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cool story, RP


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Salomon]
    #14491692 - 05/21/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I stopped reading at "about 120 years old."

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14491722 - 05/21/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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2Cents said:
Interesting....

I kinda wanna see how pissed I can get people by discussing this.





so you're trolling and requesting a ban?




I think he is talking about saying this stuff face to face with christians, not trolling people on the internet.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #14491725 - 05/21/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I stopped reading at "about 120 years old."

:dumbass:




My great grandma lived to be 110 :shrug:

How do you know certain Genetics would not give you this opportunity?

Not that impossible...

:braindamage:


And its fucking Jesus...

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #14491731 - 05/21/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
I stopped reading at "about 120 years old."

:dumbass:





yea jesus was from planet earth, as in a human being.

Hobbits live for about 120 years, maybe Hobbit Jesus was buried in Middle Earth

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #14491733 - 05/21/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dunno, seems to me that it'd be pretty hard to survive being crucified if that's what happened to him.

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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14491757 - 05/21/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
I dunno, seems to me that it'd be pretty hard to survive being crucified if that's what happened to him.




It would be possible to survive Crucifixion if you were taken down...

It comes down to that spear thrust into his heart (His side) He could of taken a spear thrust to the opposite side of his chest, but it would make no sense to stab him in his right side to ' make sure he was dead'

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