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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14473054 - 05/18/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

obviously you who is continuing the troll, despite valuable conversation going on. :doublefacepalm: you've obviously taken a disliking to me, as evidenced by the effect i have on you, which is definitely not positive, through no one's fault but your own.

obvious troll is obvious


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14473143 - 05/18/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: fighting [Re: nice1]
    #14473272 - 05/18/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've been thinking about making money off of MMA now that I watched this online video


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Re: fighting [Re: wellage]
    #14473328 - 05/18/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i would kick op's ass.

i'm from the streets nigguh!


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14473360 - 05/18/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

linkamathingy said:
fighting is a necessary tool in this day and age. it's brutal but so is the world.




Really, I'm 35 and have never had to fight anyone.

Edited by 4runner (05/18/11 01:37 PM)

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Re: fighting [Re: 4runner]
    #14473385 - 05/18/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it's a tool. you don't gotta be a thug but it's nice to be prepared and not have your teeth knocked out the back of your head.

i like the strategy that goes with it, it's a chess game.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14474989 - 05/18/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i mean no disrespect to the OP but it's prety clear from all of your posts in this thread and the way that you speak, that you are not a fighter at all really. maybe you have an interest in it and its something you enjoy learning about but you aren't a fighter. the way you describe situations and the terminology you use makes me think you haven't got any practical experience in real fighting.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14475012 - 05/18/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If I was fighting the rock in wwf wrestling, I would take a piece of lined A4 with me into the ring.
Everybody knows that paper beats rock.

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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14475829 - 05/18/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

People like this come into the dojo all the time.

Self proclaimed tough guys who "know how to fight already" but have never trained before, and are "planning on going into MMA".

My instructor usually gets them to fight me because I'm about 141 lbs. Generally it either humbles and motivates them, or gets them to quit immediately.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14475942 - 05/18/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dude I know! Its the small, wiry guys you have to watch out for!

I'm not a really big guy but I'm built and I'll gas out in fight/match LOOOONG before a small wiry guy unless I focus on my breathing and relaxing all the muscles I'm not using at the moment.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14478494 - 05/19/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
i mean no disrespect to the OP but it's prety clear from all of your posts in this thread and the way that you speak, that you are not a fighter at all really. maybe you have an interest in it and its something you enjoy learning about but you aren't a fighter. the way you describe situations and the terminology you use makes me think you haven't got any practical experience in real fighting.




i love sparring with friends, but i've never attacked anyone in the normal sense. and i'm usually a peaceful enough guy that people are defused if angry at me, off the internet.

i am a wiry small guy. i've always had an active lifestyle, my heart beats pretty slow and powerful, and i've meditated to a point where i have partially ingrained how to breath better, instead of short animal breaths.

kinda egotistic line of conversation, but you wondered.

i have the confidence to know what to do if someone holds a gun or knife at me within range of me. i feel i don't really need much more than that, other than the stamina to chew through multiple people. that's what the heavy bag work helps with.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14481446 - 05/19/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, i'm just saying, all that goes out the window once you get clocked in the face a few times buddy. takes alot of practical experience to be able to centre yourself and find your rhythym while you've got some ninja on the other side trying to kick and punch you in the head constantly ! this is why trainers are necessary not videos, because a video can only teach you the one thing it teaches, where as a trainer can respond to ur situations, observer where you need more guidance or work and help you on this. you cant set up a dvd in your corner during a fight and have it replay the ' how to throw a leg kick ' or ' how to counter attack ' video.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14482074 - 05/20/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, if i had some money i'd have a trainer. but study and practice aren't "out the window" in a fight. sweat spent in training is blood saved on the battlefield. i'd try my damndest not to get hit in the face anyways because if they can reach with a fist they can slit your throat with a knife. i understand a trainer is great. but intense study and focus have to come somewhere near? and you take things from videos and practice them until it's ingrained in your arsenal.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14489264 - 05/21/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Heffy said:
Krav Maga is a bullshit martial art.

Every person I've fought with who trained Krav was a half baked fighter with delusional overconfidence.

Haganah is a bullshit knockoff of Krav that even the Krav guys say is bullshit. See?




make your links bigger, i missed that shit.

Thanks for the info about FIGHT, it seemed pretty cool, but i'm glad i never intended to pay for it, torrents save me lots of money. Now i know that the guy hypes it up to sell it and lies about his combat experience.

Money making schemes don't entirely destroy the content validity hopefully. I'm not going to forget everything i learned from it, I still see usefulness in it. Reevaluating my knowledge definitely, not that i wasn't in a state of growth anyways.

i don't intend to pay anyone, that doesn't truly deserve it, what little dollars i've been getting when there are so many free resources. it does help to get the views of experienced martial artists though, as evidenced by what i've learned in this thread, but i didn't doubt that anyways.

so haganah(not talking about FIGHT here, because FIGHT claims to be more than one style) is a knockoff of Krav Maga? i didn't realize i should be studying the history of the martial arts methods instead of just taking what was useful and moving on.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14489355 - 05/21/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

krav maga and similar systems depends on bursting of energy in order to
defeat an attacker, you throw all your energy into your attack which is
great if you make contact with your attack but it limits your recovery
and expends too much energy in too short a time

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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14489628 - 05/21/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
krav maga and similar systems depends on bursting of energy in order to
defeat an attacker, you throw all your energy into your attack which is
great if you make contact with your attack but it limits your recovery
and expends too much energy in too short a time




so different styles have different energy use tactics. what would an example of a different energy use analysis be? like waste equal amounts? i can't picture it.

moderators need moderator rating, not just general rating. as a poster, i enjoy what you say sometimes. as a moderator, i can't see how anyone can function, the rules being so vague. like whoever wrote them had no legalese experience. lol that didn't spell check incorrectly(legalese), must be a real word.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14489653 - 05/21/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OP I agree, a lot of people have no idea how to throw a decent punch. you see people taking these wild swings way out to their sides...as opposed to throwing a straight punch.

although it doesnt sound to me like you've been in too many fights. It's not like you can just execute a set of moves in succession...your opponent is fighting back...


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14489656 - 05/21/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Advice my dad gave me about fighting:
"Hit as hard as you can, as fast as you can, wherever you can, and don't stop for any reason. If you know you'll get your ass kicked, kick them in the nuts and run like a bitch"

Not pretty, you might get called a little bitch, but it works.

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Re: fighting [Re: Shroomerited]
    #14489674 - 05/21/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Shroomerited said:
Advice my dad gave me about fighting:
"Hit as hard as you can, as fast as you can, wherever you can, and don't stop for any reason. If you know you'll get your ass kicked, kick them in the nuts and run like a bitch"

Not pretty, you might get called a little bitch, but it works.




lol, i think the same, except i'd like to neutralize(break something so they can't fight anytime soon) so they can't try to reengage before i gtfo.

i really should change the OP so people stop thinking that's the exact thing to do in every fight. it's an overview and tips. i understand every fight is different, but the weapons and tactics should be similar.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491301 - 05/21/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's pretty simple. To be a good well rounded fighter you need 3 things.

Kickboxing.
Grappling.
Weapons.

Generally (but not always):

The best kickboxing systems are western boxing, boxe francais, and Muay Thai.

The best grappling systems are Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Catch/Greco Wrestling, and Sambo

The best weapon systems are  Kali, Krabi Krabong, and The Japanese weapon arts.

Find a good instructor, pay attention to what they teach you, and make sure they will spar with you.
This is how you will get better.

Watch out for schools where nobody spars, especially if the teacher will not spar with you. Martial artists who don't spar make up for it with extra "chi". These aren't the people you want teaching you to fight.

My $0.02


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