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[OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns
    #14479737 - 05/19/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Court rules medical pot users can have guns
May 19, 2011 - Associated Press

GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) — The Oregon Supreme Court unanimously ruled Thursday that a retired school bus driver can have her medical marijuana and a concealed handgun, too.

The ruling upheld previous decisions by the Oregon Court of Appeals and circuit court that determined a federal law barring criminals and drug addicts from buying firearms does not excuse sheriffs from issuing concealed weapons permits to people who hold medical marijuana cards and otherwise qualify.

"We hold that the Federal Gun Control Act does not pre-empt the state's concealed handgun licensing statute and, therefore, the sheriffs must issue (or renew) the requested licenses," Chief Justice Paul De Muniz wrote in the ruling issued in Salem.

Cynthia Willis, one of four plaintiffs, welcomed the ruling.

"I feel like a big girl now," Willis said. "I feel like a real human being now, not just a source of revenue to the county."

Leland Berger, the attorney representing Willis and other medical marijuana patients in the state, said the ruling was important in the continuing national debate over making marijuana legal to treat medical conditions.

"I am hopeful we will end cannabis prohibition the same way we ended alcohol prohibition, which was by refusing to enforce federal laws within the state," Berger said.

Berger noted that acceptance of medical marijuana continues to grow, with Delaware last week becoming the 16th state to make it legal.

Willis, 54, has carried a Walther .22-caliber automatic pistol for personal protection since a messy divorce several years ago.

She volunteers at a Medford smoke shop that helps medical marijuana patients find growers, and teaches how to get the most medical benefit from the pound-and-a-half of pot that card carriers are allowed to possess.

She uses marijuana cookies, joints and salves to treat arthritis pain and muscle spasms.

Elmer Dickens, a lawyer representing the sheriffs of Washington and Jackson counties, said the ruling provided needed clarification on whether the defendants should follow federal or state law on what has been a cloudy issue.

Dickens did not anticipate an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, because the ruling focused so tightly on state law.

"Every sheriff knows now what the rules are, and we got what we needed," he said.

The ruling also said Congress has no constitutional authority to require states to use gun licensing statues to enforce a federal law like the prohibition on handguns for marijuana users.

Allen St. Pierre, executive director of NORML, said the Oregon justices "didn't drink the Kool-Aid" by adopting the view that marijuana should be treated differently than 400,000 other drugs used as medicine.

He noted that during Prohibition, many people could buy alcohol by claiming a medical benefit.

Oregon Attorney General John Kroger had argued in favor of the medical marijuana patients and against the sheriffs of Jackson and Washington counties who withheld handgun permits.

Oregon became one of the first states in the nation to authorize people to use marijuana to treat medical conditions when voters approved an initiative in 1998. The state has also moved marijuana down the list of illegal drugs from the top ranking to No. 2.

Nearly 40,000 Oregonians hold medical marijuana patient cards, with more than 36,000 of them for severe pain, according to Oregon Medical Marijuana Program statistics. Another 22,000 are registered as growers, and 21,000 as caregivers.

The ruling came the same day that the Oregon House was holding a hearing on a bill crafted by retired state troopers in the Legislature that would make it tougher for doctors to issue medical marijuana cards.

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: veggie]
    #14480817 - 05/19/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

better watch out for that guy, he's got a concealed handgun!

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: veggie]
    #14481012 - 05/19/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thats awesome, no need to watch out for people with concealed weapons if you mind your own business.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481477 - 05/19/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm so glad shroomery has both bad and good stories cause after today and obama vs Israel I really really hate the system right now.

That said the woman is packing a .22 ? are you kidding, lemme get my leather jacket or a cookie sheet for protection, for ladies use a .38 is a better goblin buster. However A gun always beats no gun. Goblin kicks in the door he's already gonna be nervous, he's not gonna care about the volume of gunshots heading his way more just the GUNSHOTS.

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: Flashmob]
    #14481534 - 05/19/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

a .22 maxi mag to the dome will stop anyone dead in there tracks.

but bigger is better if shes a bad shot, a .22 will piss a guy off bad enough to break her neck if she cant hit the right spot.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481756 - 05/19/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh wholly agree if your aim is true and you hit the head with a .22 you will kill him. Almost more dead than a bigger round. A .22(non mag) is gonna have the energy to enter the skull but not leave so it will bounce around and puree the contents of the skull. .22 Mag is a nice cheap round like the .22.

In all cases you want something where you can practice firing it often to get that aim going. A brick of .22 costs less than a gallon of milk, so your gonna get in more range time.

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: veggie]
    #14481797 - 05/19/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ah, good to see this news.  I remember seeing the original article saying she was arrested or had the gun confiscated.  Good to see a northwestern state protect medical marijuana and guns.


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    #14483186 - 05/20/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I know a dude who shot himself in the head with a .22... twice. He is still alive today.

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: Subconscious]
    #14483296 - 05/20/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

always feel sorry when someone messes up suicide like that. shooting urself in the head and surviving is just leaving u in a sadder state than u were to begin with (in some cases)


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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: Subconscious]
    #14483943 - 05/20/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I know a dude who shot himself in the head with a .22... twice. He is still alive today.




:dudewtf:

What was the location of the entry point??  What sort of condition is he in?

That's a crazy thought to shoot yourself in the head twice.  What if he had an Uzi?


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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: Subconscious]
    #14489173 - 05/21/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Subconscious said:
I know a dude who shot himself in the head with a .22... twice. He is still alive today.



Im guessing the gun was a sad sad excuse for a firearm. Gabby giffords is another example of bullet/brain/skull miracles however the vast majority or people lack the "survive gunshot to the head" gene. It's a pesky problem that you have to die first to realize your a goddamned highlander.

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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: Flashmob]
    #14489474 - 05/21/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thats a gangster ass bus lady......  all i can think of is the one from south park SHUT UPP!!  :laser: LMAO






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Re: [OR] Court rules medical pot users can have guns [Re: veggie]
    #14489502 - 05/21/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh hell YEAH!!!

Take that Mike Winters you wanna be Joe Arpaio douche.

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