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Income Tax?
    #14489123 - 05/21/11 10:46 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

I've been reading up a lot lately on tax protests and the 16th amendment.
Does any one have any insight onto it not being ratified legally? As far as I've read it's been ratified by 36 states between 1909/13, which is 1/3. Also 26 USC 6673 and 6702 clearly define protest on the basis of wages not being taxable as frivolous which seems to be in direct conflict with Edwards (vs) Keith, 231 F110, 113 (1916) and Lucas v. Earl, 281 U.S. 111 (1930).

juuuuuuuuust wondering...


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Re: Income Tax? [Re: airclay] * 1
    #14489831 - 05/21/11 02:27 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Stop paying taxes and see what happens.

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Re: Income Tax? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14489947 - 05/21/11 02:50 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

what great insight...

as much as I've read the key has been to get a trial by jury and hope your peers are bright enough to understand the difference between law and conditioning.


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Re: Income Tax? [Re: airclay]
    #14490189 - 05/21/11 03:36 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Maybe you can declare yourself a "Free Man of the Land" and you'll automatically be exempt for all taxes and laws and you can rape, steal and murder without consequences.

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Re: Income Tax? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14490256 - 05/21/11 03:51 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)



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Re: Income Tax? [Re: airclay]
    #14490459 - 05/21/11 04:40 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

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airclay said:
what great insight...

as much as I've read the key has been to get a trial by jury and hope your peers are bright enough to understand the difference between law and conditioning.



Actually you are counting on your peers to be fucking retards.  Then again, it only takes one moron to produce a hung jury.  So you'll get a second chance to spend tons of money on lawyers before you get convicted.


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Re: Income Tax? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14490584 - 05/21/11 05:15 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

^this guy is just 2 cool :cool:

anything constructive to add anyone? i'm not looking to name call just maybe knowledge on cases and law that is used to knock down the protest arguments. it seems really easy to find sources for the protester arguments online but not vice versa. of course I could be looking in the wrong places.


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Re: Income Tax? [Re: airclay]
    #14492846 - 05/22/11 06:17 AM (13 years, 12 hours ago)

This is a bit conspiracy material, i have seen a documentary on youtube that looks convincing but of course it is wrong. you will get convicted, it doesn't matter what kind of arguments you put forward it just wouldn't be practical anymore. the laws you are refering to are about the old america without all the liberals who corrupted the old capitalist-libertarian revolution. of course i would argue that there were reasons for this revolution to go down, but i don't think it is just as conspiratorial to believe that the 1905 takeover of the fed is part of the reason. I would argue that the role that the left takes in america is not the same as it takes in other countries like in canada and europe, where the left is seen as resisting pro-american president. the left in the aristocrat-republic of america takes the role of the worse type governmental intervention, take healthcare for example, there is no limit on campaign donations unlike in canada, so this creates a system where in order to have an efficient form of public healthcare, there needs to be some corruption involved as to not anger your campaign donors, while in canada putting on higher tax on the rich means delocalisation. Canada basicly raises tax on the rich to be populist, and then put them down when the pro-american right takes power under the slogan of being realist. higher tax on the rich in america is not populist, freedom is populist, the reason to put them down is not as much as to attract investment, but rather to stimulate the economy. There is not much difference of course. higher tax on the rich in america is a clear leftist agenda, while in canada or other european nation it is a mix of populism and social-democratic thinking.

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