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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: m_jacobs]
    #14488723 - 05/21/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I've noticed everyone seems to be using polyfil..  Any thoughts on Tyvek?
I know a few people have tried it, but I was hoping some more seasoned growers would chime in.  The polyfill is a bit of a mess to work with in my mono.  I like the clean undisrupted view I get from the tyvek.





Monstermitch uses tyvek. :shrug: Well, he did, when he grew in tubs.

Something to try, which I'm going to try out on my next round of tubs, is using tyvek during colonization, and then polyfil for fruiting. This way, I can use WAY less polyfil, and also can re-use it at least twice no problem. :super:


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: faceyneck]
    #14488863 - 05/21/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

fill just works better. tyvek is not porous enuff imo.

With tyvek you glue or tape it over the holes no? I don't like that idea one bit for when it comes time for tub cleaning.


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: anonjon]
    #14488899 - 05/21/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: OoBYCoO]
    #14488913 - 05/21/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ah yeah I forgot all about that stuff. Now there is something to try.


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: anonjon]
    #14490232 - 05/21/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Neither tyvek nor felt is suitable monotubs, and not really necessary.
You don't need a contam filter, you need a fresh air moderating baffle.


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #14490317 - 05/21/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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IMO, hole size/numbers doesnt matter as long as your allowing sufficient gas exchange during colonization and plenty of fresh air during fruiting.  with the use of polyfill you are truly adjusting the size of your holes with that anyway, packing it tight for holding Rh or packing loosely for more FAE, hole size/numbers doesnt matter.


placement does. :yesnod:

you want holes at sublevel and up higher for circulation. 

the key is even distribution without over doing it or you can dry out your substrate quickly. 

but this, like many other aspects of mycology, has many many variations to be used.
what works for you, you use. :super:



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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: anonjon]
    #14497781 - 05/23/11 06:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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fill just works better. tyvek is not porous enuff imo.

With tyvek you glue or tape it over the holes no? I don't like that idea one bit for when it comes time for tub cleaning.





Tape.

Yes, tyvek is porous enough. Also, many, many people around here completely tape up their holes during colonization. Tyvek can't possibly be that suffocating.

Also, I'm NOT saying to use tyvek during fruiting. And, the reason I'M going to do this, is because there isn't a place in my apartment that doesn't have air drafting through it at excessive speeds for colonization. This has led to drying of the substrate. Tyvek should fix all that.


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: faceyneck]
    #14497786 - 05/23/11 06:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Tyvek or tape during colonization is pointless- put a bag over it.
As you say tyvek won't work for fruiting.


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14497801 - 05/23/11 06:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Neither tyvek nor felt is suitable monotubs, and not really necessary.
You don't need a contam filter, you need a fresh air moderating baffle.





100% polyester felt is essentially polyfil, and certainly IS suitable for monotubs:

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Tyvek is suitable as well:

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monstermitch said:








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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14497814 - 05/23/11 06:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tyvek or tape during colonization is pointless- put a bag over it.
As you say tyvek won't work for fruiting.





Do you read my posts or just glaze over them? :facepalm3:

Here's the main issue: I am sick of wasting polyfil, so I want a cheap material to use during colonization, to prevent drying out while allowing gas exchange.

Also: if I wait until full colonization to begin fruiting with polyfil, I can recycle the polyfil without concern of increasing potential contaminate risk.

There's a whole 20+ page thread about why I don't use bags during colonization, which you participated in.

You're saying things about this as thought there's some objective way to grow mushrooms, when all of this is opinion. Using tyvek during colonization is not "pointless" to me, monstermitch and many others, no matter how you look at it. It might seem pointless to YOU, but that doesn't mean it seems pointless to everyone.

Tyvek allows gas exchange, and prevents moisture loss. Those seem like valid 'points' for its use to me. :shrug:


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: Base Icks]
    #14498468 - 05/23/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Ryath said:
there's a 71qt tub going with 2" holes on long and short sides. sub level on long. near top on short. 3.5" sub depth
want an update here with results Base Icks?




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Hey guys thanks for your responses. I posted this just out of the sake of curiosity. I like seeing others ways of doing things and their results.

If any one wants to post there results with pics, specs, etc that would be cool.

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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: Primal Call]
    #14498822 - 05/23/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pinset has not ever been a problem for me with Texas. I have yet to grow out a clone of it actually. Potency wasn't spectacular I was told, so that sort of killed my buzz on this strain. I will try it again someday though.

It's a fun strain to grow. Potency can vary with many cube races, so I wouldn't be too concerned by what I said earlier in this post about potency.

Man, I think there's some issue with how the proteins are used in my Texas race, which I don't see in other people's. For one, when dried, these fruits were easily as fragile as saltine crackers. No joke. Also, the caps were so weak that they would oftentimes sort of melt off the stem. Really odd:



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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: faceyneck]
    #14735748 - 07/08/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)



This is my setup with the bottom 4" duct taped then black trash bagged then duct taped over top of that. MANY holes drilled with 1/4" bit on all 4 sides and in lid. Works great for me. I get a lb dry per tub before having to discard.


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: Toofpaste]
    #14735918 - 07/08/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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This is my setup with the bottom 4" duct taped then black trash bagged then duct taped over top of that. MANY holes drilled with 1/4" bit on all 4 sides and in lid. Works great for me. I get a lb dry per tub before having to discard.




what size tub and what substrate are you using?


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: Toofpaste]
    #14735920 - 07/08/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What size of bin?


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: RogueTrippeR]
    #14735923 - 07/08/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ah, you beat me to it! :lol:


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Re: Mono hole config's. [Re: faceyneck]
    #14735926 - 07/08/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

64qt sterilite with 1 brick eco earth coco coir, 2 quarts verm, and 6 jars wbs spawn.


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