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Offline0rusnjos
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TiHKAL? What is this bullshit?
    #14487908 - 05/21/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So I just bought a copy of TiHKAL, Shuglin's book.  And after paging through that dull bitch for four hours under the influence of LSD I started to think that maybe it was research at first but near the end Shuglin just kinda sounded like a fiend.  Anyone else think this?


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos]
    #14487946 - 05/21/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Why hello there, fellow tripper.  Haha I'm totally on board with that being the vibe of the whole movement in general, it starts out good but then people just take it too far.


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos]
    #14487964 - 05/21/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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0rusnjos said:
So I just bought a copy of TiHKAL, Shuglin's book.  And after paging through that dull bitch for four hours under the influence of LSD I started to think that maybe it was research at first but near the end Shuglin just kinda sounded like a fiend.  Anyone else think this?



I have PiHKAL not TiHKAL

But no

I really respect everything he's done. I mean look at all that he has created. Whether or not his research was recreational. He is a genius.


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: drr]
    #14487969 - 05/21/11 01:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea, he is genius.  I agree.


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Offline0rusnjos
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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: drr]
    #14487975 - 05/21/11 01:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

He was a fiend no genius.  Really good chemist, but come on, he just wanted to get high.  Phenethylamines are just LSD with an upper buzz slapped into the mix.  I know that a very vague generalization, but I seriously think he just made psychedelics cause the fucker liked to trip and wrote up some records so the DEA wouldn't bust down his door down.


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14487978 - 05/21/11 01:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

and some geniuses are crazy :shrug:

i havent read much of his work so i cant comment on that. though i have looked through the books.


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos]
    #14487983 - 05/21/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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0rusnjos said:
He was a fiend no genius.  Really good chemist, but come on, he just wanted to get high.  Phenethylamines are just LSD with an upper buzz slapped into the mix.  I know that a very vague generalization, but I seriously think he just made psychedelics cause the fucker liked to trip and wrote up some records so the DEA wouldn't bust down his door down.



:rolleyes:
You think you're some kind of elitist, that your psychedelic drug use is more valid than Shulgin's, of all people?? LOL you're clearly high


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos]
    #14487989 - 05/21/11 01:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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0rusnjos said:
He was a fiend no genius.  Really good chemist, but come on, he just wanted to get high.  Phenethylamines are just LSD with an upper buzz slapped into the mix.  I know that a very vague generalization, but I seriously think he just made psychedelics cause the fucker liked to trip and wrote up some records so the DEA wouldn't bust down his door down.




well of course he liked to trip, hes a psychedelic chemist. thats what got him into it. but so what? i think people should be able to put whatever they want in their bodies.

he creates new psychedelics. its not like he has any negative intentions. pure scientific/spiritual research at its finest. more power to him to create new psychedelics. thats awesome. thats a pretty cool thing to do with your life. so props to shulgin. there arent many people like him out there so he needs credit where credit is deserved.


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: drr]
    #14487991 - 05/21/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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drr said:
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0rusnjos said:
He was a fiend no genius.  Really good chemist, but come on, he just wanted to get high.  Phenethylamines are just LSD with an upper buzz slapped into the mix.  I know that a very vague generalization, but I seriously think he just made psychedelics cause the fucker liked to trip and wrote up some records so the DEA wouldn't bust down his door down.



:rolleyes:
You think you're some kind of elitist, that your psychedelic drug use is more valid than Shulgin's, of all people?? LOL you're clearly high



:rofl2:
No shit.  Who fucking cares anyway?  All I know for sure is at this very moment, I am experiencing mescaline like nothing I've ever known....


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14488011 - 05/21/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
All I know for sure is at this very moment, I am experiencing mescaline like nothing I've ever known....



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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: drr]
    #14488022 - 05/21/11 02:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I mean its just funny to me that this guy would say this crap.

Shulgin would listen to classical music on his trips with his friends/research group. The doses were accurate to the microgram and always pure. They all took notes and that book you are holding is the result of his work. Lets see anybody else invent a couple hundred psychedelic drugs and write an encyclopedia on them. OP what do you have a ten strip in your freezer or something?


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos]
    #14488047 - 05/21/11 02:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Of course he wanted to get high, just like we all do. He did us a service by creating designer drugs that were specifically designed to be psychedelic. I have nothing but respect for him.


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: muistrue] * 1
    #14488075 - 05/21/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shulgin is a beautiful soul.  When he was having health problems recently I gladly donated what I could to help him out.  He helped me and thousands of others with our lives, least we could do is return the favor alittle.  Plus he's one of the people I look up to as I go to college for Chemistry.  He was total class, and total charm.  I would NEVER refer to him as a fiend, he was on a spiritual quest not a quest to get his rocks off.  He'd have cooked up a bunch of meth if that's all he wanted.  It was mescaline that turned him on, and he went on a spiritual quest from there.  I can't wait to see Dirty Pictures when they release it.

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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: mattritt]
    #14488183 - 05/21/11 03:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You condemn him because he enjoyed his work?



...Like reallly enjoyed :feelsgoodman:


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: Drise]
    #14488376 - 05/21/11 04:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

har, OP doesn't like RC's. i don't either but... i wish IIII could be a chemist making my own drugs for people to use.


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos] * 1
    #14488398 - 05/21/11 05:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, yes, Shulgin is a psychedelic chemistry genius and you are just a kid who probably doesn't understand a single word of what he wrote. You also probably thought that after reading TIHKAL while high you'd be able to synthesize the most awesome drugs using a plastic bowl and whatever ingredients your mom's kitchen cupboard had in store and got frustrated when you learned that this is not the case. Not fair!

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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos]
    #14488399 - 05/21/11 05:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

and also, LSD was a mistake.


take that!


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14488456 - 05/21/11 05:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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drr said:
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0rusnjos said:
He was a fiend no genius.  Really good chemist, but come on, he just wanted to get high.  Phenethylamines are just LSD with an upper buzz slapped into the mix.  I know that a very vague generalization, but I seriously think he just made psychedelics cause the fucker liked to trip and wrote up some records so the DEA wouldn't bust down his door down.



:rolleyes:
You think you're some kind of elitist, that your psychedelic drug use is more valid than Shulgin's, of all people?? LOL you're clearly high



:rofl2:
No shit.  Who fucking cares anyway?  All I know for sure is at this very moment, I am experiencing mescaline like nothing I've ever known....



There's nothing like tripping on mescaline while posting on your computer, LOL!!! How spiritually fulfilling that must be for you. GeeZ!!


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: Altered States]
    #14488462 - 05/21/11 05:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

spirituality is within you and all around you, to paraphrase... oh noes!1  movie dialogue!1 yep. you are straight objectifying. enjoy your drab unfulfilled nonspiritual life... :hi:


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Re: TiHKAL? What is this bullshit? [Re: 0rusnjos]
    #14488471 - 05/21/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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0rusnjos said:
He was a fiend no genius. 




I haven't read either book, but there is no reason on Earth somebody couldn't be both a fiend and a genius.  Like the blades on the fan I just turned on are both white and made of plastic.


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