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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: joemolloy]
    #14484968 - 05/20/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I haven't tripped in five weeks.  That's a record for me because for the past six months I've had weekly mescaline trips and for two years before that I had weekly oral DMT/ayahuasca trips.  During those two an a half years of Saturday tripping, I also managed to squeeze in a bunch of shroom and LSA trips.




key lesson from JoeMolloy... Don't abuse drugs, even if they are psychedelics...





The days that I wasn't tripping, I'd obsess about the experience, read psychedelic literature, and engage in drug centered behavior such as growing and preparing.  All of my conversations somehow led back to these drugs and their effects.  These behaviors were sober and they contributed heavily to my mindset. .





Still doing it Joe.  Not tripping but spending a lot of time in drug centered behavior.  What other interests do you have.  What else do you do?

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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: joemolloy]
    #14485129 - 05/20/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Your story is not complete yet and depending on your age, I'd hold off on the victory parade.  However, you might be the lucky fucker I was talking about and for that you are the envy of the drug world.  Cheers, seriously.




I'm halfway to 90. I'll keep being careful because there's too much to lose. I do like your title though and have accepted it.

I still have alcohol cravings. And I talk myself down from drinking "just one beer" because I know that either a) I will enjoy it, meaning that I will have "just one beer" the next night too, and then 2 weeks later I'll be drinking every night and hating myself or b) I won't enjoy it so I shouldn't do it in the first place.

Alcohol is/was a habitual thing for me. Mushrooms have never been a habit, or to the extent that they have ever come close to being "casual" like that they have scared the crap out of me. After a trip I am sated for a long, long time, and in fact it's not so much desire to trip that leads me to trip again, as recognition that I am fucking up in consensual reality and neglecting relationships, forgetting what's important. I trip to remember again what's important, and it's often uncomfortable. In fact I'm scared every time going in. I go in only when dissatisfaction with my real-life performance overtakes fear of encountering the sacred. And then I'm healed, and full of gratitude for many months more. Medicine.

yes, i do feel lucky. i am grateful and afraid, the left and the right of the pole i hold walking the wire. i hope you recover or find your balance.

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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14485189 - 05/20/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Joemolly = the future.

How did we understand anything in it's first stage of development? We thought of it as mystical.

Was it mystical? Maybe...

Will it be mystical after many years, decades, or centuries of exploration? No.


My word of advice. If you do not like Joemolly. Leave now. Pursue something else. For you are striving to be like him, eventually.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: DesertedAnt]
    #14485232 - 05/20/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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My word of advice. If you do not like Joemolly. Leave now. Pursue something else. For you are striving to be like him, eventually.




Hm. I'm striving to be a jaded psychonaut who trips too often and rationalizes the psychedelic state by calling it all "bullshit"? :stonedjerk:


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: DesertedAnt]
    #14485248 - 05/20/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Could it be you are the problem and not the pyschadelics. They will speed up your mind or thought process but if the mind aint right then you will be left with a twisted reality which is still a conclusion created by your mind.

And no children are the future not joemolly. Soundin kinda wierd man. You must be a shaman i been hearing abouts.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14485306 - 05/20/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Automobiles


«The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty, a fad.»
The president of the Michigan Savings Bank advising Henry Ford's lawyer not to invest in the Ford Motor Co., 1903.


«That the automobile has practically reached the limit of its development is suggested by the fact that during the past year no improvements of a radical nature have been introduced.»
Scientific American, Jan. 2 edition, 1909.


«The ordinary "horseless carriage" is at present a luxury for the wealthy; and although its price will probably fall in the future, it will never, of course, come into as common use as the bicycle.»
Literary Digest, 1899.


Airplanes


«Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical (sic) and insignificant, if not utterly impossible.» - Simon Newcomb; The Wright Brothers flew at Kittyhawk 18 months later. Newcomb was not impressed.


«Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible.»
Lord Kelvin, British mathematician and physicist, president of the British Royal Society, 1895.


«It is apparent to me that the possibilities of the aeroplane, which two or three years ago were thought to hold the solution to the [flying machine] problem, have been exhausted, and that we must turn elsewhere.»
Thomas Edison, American inventor, 1895.


«Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.»
Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre, 1904.


«There will never be a bigger plane built.»
A Boeing engineer, after the first flight of the 247, a twin engine plane that holds ten people.



Computers


«Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh only 1.5 tons.»
Popular Mechanics, March 1949.


«There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.»
Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC), maker of big business mainframe computers, arguing against the PC in 1977.


«I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year.»
The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957.


«But what... is it good for?»
IBM executive Robert Lloyd, speaking in 1968 microprocessor, the heart of today's computers.


Radio


«Radio has no future.»
Lord Kelvin, Scottish mathematician and physicist, former president of the Royal Society, 1897.


«The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to no one in particular?»
Associates of David Sarnoff responding to the latter's call for investment in the radio in 1921.


«Lee DeForest has said in many newspapers and over his signature that it would be possible to transmit the human voice across the Atlantic before many years. Based on these absurd and deliberately misleading statements, the misguided public ... has been persuaded to purchase stock in his company ...»
a U.S. District Attorney, prosecuting American inventor Lee DeForest for selling stock fraudulently through the mail for his Radio Telephone Company in 1913.


Films


«Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?»
H. M. Warner, co-founder of Warner Brothers, 1927.


«The cinema is little more than a fad. It's canned drama. What audiences really want to see is flesh and blood on the stage." -– Charlie Chaplin, actor, producer, director, and studio founder, 1916.


Pyschs

"Hm. I'm striving to be a jaded psychonaut who trips too often and rationalizes the psychedelic state by calling it all "bullshit"?:
~IFoundWaldo of the Shroomery


"And no children are the future not joemolly."
~savage.renegade of the shroomery



You reject his theories and ideas, yet you will keep talking about them.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: DesertedAnt]
    #14485382 - 05/20/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The creation of men or the laws of men will never even come close to rival the laws of the universe or natural law if you will. So comparing the two is pointless. Alot of mens creations have bad side effects. Are we a strong species because we can create and think. I dont think so. Not when we destroy ourselves.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14485486 - 05/20/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

savage.renegade
"The creation of men or the laws of men will never even come close to rival the laws of the universe or natural law if you will. So comparing the two is pointless."

Which destroys the idea of us being our own god.

You averted my main point.

+1 for creative thinking though.

Speaking of laws of nature, is the truth not difficult to silence?


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: DesertedAnt]
    #14485582 - 05/20/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I guess that depends on your belief.  That is the great mystery.

My point is dont blame pyschadelics for what they cant do.
The one pitfall that i can see is if you use them to fill some emptiness, or to be happy. Or if you have an expectation that they will gift you with some insight that you couldnt have acquired withou than that might lead to negative feelings..

Your environment doesn't dictate your happiness. What are you looking for?


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: farmer88]
    #14485593 - 05/20/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Still doing it Joe.  Not tripping but spending a lot of time in drug centered behavior.  What other interests do you have.  What else do you do?




I lift weights, I run, I hike, I read, I spend time with my family, I travel on vacation often, and I have a successful career.  There's always time for psychedelic drugs though.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: joemolloy]
    #14485635 - 05/20/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:Cigarettes didn't soften me up for anything. They just led to smoking more cigarettes.
I smoked weed because I was curious about it, did my research, and knew that it wasn't dangerous.
And I wanted to try psychedelics long before I did any drugs (including cigarettes).





That's an interesting order in which you placed your drug use.  Cigarettes, weed, and then psychedelics.  I know, its just a funny coincidence that keeps popping up all over the world.  I'll just ignore it and pretend it doesn't keep happening in that exact same sequence.

Hey for extra credit, what drug comes after psychedelics?  I hate patterns too.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: joemolloy]
    #14485671 - 05/20/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cigarettes, alcohol and marijuana are all way more readily accessible than other drugs too.  What's your point?

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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: saxcidjazz]
    #14485692 - 05/20/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Cigarettes, alcohol and marijuana are all way more readily accessible than other drugs too.  What's your point?




The point is, when taken in succession of eachother help ease your mind about taking them.

Give a 10 year old a hit of acid...
Watch him become mentally ill, or an anti-drug compaigner.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: saxcidjazz]
    #14485694 - 05/20/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Cigarettes, alcohol and marijuana are all way more readily accessible than other drugs too.  What's your point?




All drugs are readily accessible.  You know what the point is, connect the dots, take the blinders off. 

Both sides of the Gateway Theory have been heavily researched and after considering many of the studies it seems obvious to me that softer drug use often leads to harder drug use.  Deny it all you want and hope my asshole opinion is wrong because if I am not, you may be more fucked than you imagine.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14485709 - 05/20/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hm. I'm striving to be a jaded psychonaut who trips too often and rationalizes the psychedelic state by calling it all "bullshit"? :stonedjerk:




Strive to be an independent and critical thinker who doesn't swallow psychedelic lore and rationalize his drug use as healthy, medicinal fun. 

I'd say the most psychedelic thought I ever had was that these drugs are bullshit.  Now that's some open-minded shit, no?  That'll twist your logic around.  Trip on that idea during your next psychedelic voyage, I fuckin' dare you.  It'll all click.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: joemolloy]
    #14485721 - 05/20/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If psychadelics are bullshit and you still take them...wouldnt that make you full of shit


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14485730 - 05/20/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We all, as the human race, are equally full of shit.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: joemolloy]
    #14485756 - 05/20/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:Cigarettes didn't soften me up for anything. They just led to smoking more cigarettes.
I smoked weed because I was curious about it, did my research, and knew that it wasn't dangerous.
And I wanted to try psychedelics long before I did any drugs (including cigarettes).





That's an interesting order in which you placed your drug use.  Cigarettes, weed, and then psychedelics.  I know, its just a funny coincidence that keeps popping up all over the world.  I'll just ignore it and pretend it doesn't keep happening in that exact same sequence.

Hey for extra credit, what drug comes after psychedelics?  I hate patterns too.




I actually tried acid, E, DXM, and morning glory seeds before I ever took a hit of weed.
Didn't have a sip of alcohol until college. (After all those.)
But I did all those things because of the cigarettes. :rolleyes:

With a sample size of 2, it would be a "generalization" not a "pattern."


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14485767 - 05/20/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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savage.renegade said:
If psychadelics are bullshit and you still take them...wouldnt that make you full of shit




Believe it, brother.  I am full of shit, you would be wise to ignore everything I say, it's just the ramblings of an ignorant fool.  I'm just another asshole with another bunch of weak, ill-formed, poorly articulated and distorted ideas. Pity my ignorance and be glad you are not a fool like me.


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Re: My dirty little psychedelic drug habit [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14485784 - 05/20/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
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joemolloy said:
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ifoundwaldo said:Cigarettes didn't soften me up for anything. They just led to smoking more cigarettes.
I smoked weed because I was curious about it, did my research, and knew that it wasn't dangerous.
And I wanted to try psychedelics long before I did any drugs (including cigarettes).





That's an interesting order in which you placed your drug use.  Cigarettes, weed, and then psychedelics.  I know, its just a funny coincidence that keeps popping up all over the world.  I'll just ignore it and pretend it doesn't keep happening in that exact same sequence.

Hey for extra credit, what drug comes after psychedelics?  I hate patterns too.




I actually tried acid, E, DXM, and morning glory seeds before I ever took a hit of weed.
Didn't have a sip of alcohol until college. (After all those.)
But I did all those things because of the cigarettes. :rolleyes:

With a sample size of 2, it would be a "generalization" not a "pattern."




I was waiting for this convenient post from you.  Thank you for not disappointing me.  I'm wrong, you are right.  How does that feel, knowing that you have proven that drug use does not escalate?


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