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monotub question
    #14484957 - 05/20/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So I have a 58 quart tub and was wondering if I spawned four pints of wbs to a half a brick of coir about a quart of verm and some gypsum would that put at about the 4 inch substrate depth or is my tub to big? Just wondering so I know where to drill my holes at.


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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14484969 - 05/20/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Your tub is too big, but need dimensions of the tub to be sure, as it may just be a really tall tub.

I have 66 qt tubs that are 16.8"L x 24"W x 13.1"H & I get just under 4" of substrate depth w/ 1 full brick+2 quarts verm+10 quart jars of spawn.


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Re: monotub question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14484991 - 05/20/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Deminsions are 23 1/4 by 16 7/8 by 12 1/2. Way to big or just a little too big?


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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14485013 - 05/20/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

perfect size for a full sized mono, not a mini.

Where'd you find it? is it all clear? you got a pic?...I've been searching high & low for a good mono...I finally gave up & got these, because they work but not as well as I'd like.



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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14485025 - 05/20/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I got it at walmart and no its not clear its green but you can see through it. Hang on and ill post a pic.


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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14485052 - 05/20/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well here it is




How many pints of spawn and coit would I need for this one?? And what deminsions would I need for just the amount I'm working with as stated in the op?


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Re: monotub question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14485069 - 05/20/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Have you tried the all clear Sterlites from Target or Biglots? They are clear with purple locking handles.


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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14485087 - 05/20/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd return that tub. That lid design is horrible.



Of the three tubs pictured above the far left one is the one w/ the best lid design, but does not have the proper dimensions.

I would say you need a full brick of coir+2 quarts verm + 5-10 quarts of spawn for that. one.

I can't really tell ya exactly how much you're going to need for the smaller batch...you have 2 quarts basically so divide D's tek in 1/2 & go from there...


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Re: monotub question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14485121 - 05/20/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Would you happen to have a link to that tek? I can't find the teks for shit. What would be a good sized tub for what I'm looking at doing??


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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14485136 - 05/20/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595/page/1/fpart/1

D's tek

Probably around 30qt tub w/ appropriate dimensions.

Check the AMU Q&A link in my sig. All our teks are on the first page.


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Re: monotub question [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14485142 - 05/20/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so more less I need a 30 quart tub that is kinda tall. Not real short.


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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14485500 - 05/20/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Search for the spawn calculator! It is a great help!


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Re: monotub question [Re: Azurescens89]
    #14486189 - 05/20/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well I went back and got this one. Its got the good lid and all. How's it look?




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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14486201 - 05/20/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry man for not looking at this thread earlier, but that's too big also.

You have 2 quarts of spawn. Your only real tub option is a standard 6 qt shoebox size tub.

Also, 2 quarts to half brick of coir will give u a very unimpressive flush. Over time you will get all your money out of the coir, but it can be frustrating when you don't get a nice first flush.

2 quarts of spawn would be like 1/5th of a brick of coir.


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Re: monotub question [Re: anonjon]
    #14486207 - 05/20/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have been using a half pint of sub with the shoe box size tub so why would I use the same size for 4 times the amount of sub?


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Re: monotub question [Re: anonjon]
    #14486219 - 05/20/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I got another idea. Go buy 2 dozen more wide mouth one quart canning jars and a bag of polyfill.

Use those jars as masters and make yourself 24 quart jars of spawn. Then you've got 3 nice tubs.


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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14486234 - 05/20/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I have been using a half pint of sub with the shoe box size tub so why would I use the same size for 4 times the amount of sub?




Cuz you aren't using enough spawn. It works your way, but all the cool kids are using much higher ratios with coir and producing heavy flushes and tossing them out after the 2nd flush.

I do very low spawn ratios with straw and manure sometimes. But coir is kinda slow/blah at the lower ratios.

If you're having good success with your ratios, pls lemme know. pics!


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Re: monotub question [Re: anonjon]
    #14486317 - 05/20/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well here is a couple. These are just the shoe box sized tubs inside a sgfc and I can't seem to get the humidity right so its only wanting to side pin. But these are spawned at about a 1:4 ratio. Only a pint jar was used.







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Re: monotub question [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14486344 - 05/20/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thats exactly what i expected from that spawn ratio. It probably only pinned from where the spawn was heaviest.

in my uneducated opinion, the coir doesn't get much digested before the first flush pops out, so it's pulling nutrient from the spawn. Those pretty flushes u see people bragging about with coir...check out their spawn ratios..1:1 1:2. Compare that with the old school approach of 1:4 or 1:6 or even 1:8.

U do see decent 2nd flushes on low ratio subs, cuz the myc has had a chance to break down all that hard lignin in the coir.

I think if u working with coir, the high ratios make sense so that you aren't wasting grow space on sparse first flushes.


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Re: monotub question [Re: anonjon]
    #14486363 - 05/20/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Right I understand what your sayin man. So you think my second flush on this one will be a bit bettrer? And what do I do just put water in the tub for 4 hours then drain and put back into fruiting? And how do I know when the first flush is done?


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