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OfflineSeascapeShroomerGT
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Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL)
    #14484617 - 05/20/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

From: [url=http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/it-s-background.html#alcohol]


"ALCOHOL VS. MARIJUANA

Is smoking a joint the same as drinking alcohol?

You decide. Here are the facts:

Alcohol consists of one substance only: ethanol. Marijuana contains more than 400 known chemicals, including the same cancer-causing substances found in tobacco smoke. Unlike cigarette smokers, pot smokers tend to inhale deeply and hold the smoke as long as possible to increase the effect of the drug, worsening the damage to the lungs.

Alcohol is eliminated from the body in a few hours, but THC stays in the body for weeks, possibly months, depending on the length and intensity of usage.
THC damages the immune system. Alcohol does not.

There is no intention here to minimize the dangers of alcohol abuse, which can be equally harmful. Users, however, need to be aware that the chemicals in marijuana, some of them cancer-causing, remain in the body long after the drug is taken."



Are they fucking RETARDED??? This is just dangerous. Kids are going to read it, and because any of them with half a brain know marijuana is relatively safe, they are now hearing that alcohol is even SAFER, and they're going to go get into some serious trouble. It's insane how these websites are so clearly biased and how dangerous they are spreading pure misinformation. I thought the strategy was educate and inform, not blatantly lie...


I can't believe anyone would try to say marijuana is more harmful than alcohol, I've seen so many lives destroyed by alcohol, and so few (but there are exceptions) ruined by weed. The physical dangers of alcohol are extremely well documented, and it's pretty much accepted by a large part of the medical community that Marijuana DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER. Although some may disagree with that. Either way trying to make alcohol seem more safe with this bullshit makes me want to shoot whoever wrote this in the face. If they really were "doing it for the children" they wouldn't encourage alcohol abuse over marijuana abuse. Again, that is fucking retarded.

"Unlike cigarette smokers, pot smokers tend to inhale deeply and hold the smoke as long as possible to increase the effect of the drug, worsening the damage to the lungs."
^And WTF?! Trying to imply that smoking weed is more dangerous than smoking cigarettes? How much is this website being payed by Tobacco/Alcohol lobbyists.

"Alcohol is eliminated from the body in a few hours, but THC stays in the body for weeks, possibly months, depending on the length and intensity of usage.
THC damages the immune system. Alcohol does not."
Ummm source please?? Note that they never give any reasons why alcohol is more dangerous, they simply state a fact about how the chemicals are metabolized and then lie about THC damaging the immune system. If this is true I am yet to hear about it, but someone can correct me there.





Soooo pretty much no, drinking alcohol is not the same as smoking a joint. Alcohol damages many body systems and vital organs, apparently it just doesn't harm our immune system. Alcohol brings on an impaired state that causes more violence, adultery, car accidents, deaths through stupidity, addiction, and crime than being on the influence or wanting to be under the influence of any other drug in history. The withdrawls from alcohol can also prove lethal, as does an overdose.

Marijuana in the WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO can cause heart troubles if a pre-existing heart condition is exacerbated by it, and breathing problems for heavy smokers. Physical dependency does not occur.

Many people who smoke weed every day say they experience no problems, and actually feel better about life.

Most people who drink to the point of being drunk every day would not say they experience no problems, alcoholism is a VERY serious addiction that ruins lives.

Don't get me wrong, I love a drink just as much as the next guy, but it pisses me off that this site is implying to kids that alcohol is safer because it's legal or whatever. If i was a parent and my kid read this and asked me if alcohol was really safer, I would be fucking mad. Wait i'm already mad.

If they didn't want to minimize the dangers of alcohol they shouldn't have built this page.


Anyway that's my rant, sorry I really can't stand them playing off a much much more dangerous substance as safer than Marijuana/THC. Almost any drug they discuss on that website is safer in terms of physical damage than alcohol.


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: SeascapeShroomerGT]
    #14484622 - 05/20/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Marijuana misinformation is a tragedy.

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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14484631 - 05/20/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i think they forgot to menchen that marijuana causes you to grow another hand out of your forehead....


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: alcoholocaust]
    #14484666 - 05/20/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

GODDAMMEEDDD MONGORIANNNSS!!! 








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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: LuigisDeathRace]
    #14484672 - 05/20/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thats it, im putting my bong down and getting my bottle of everclear.




See you in hell.  :minigun:


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14484701 - 05/20/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You're pretty stupid Beavis.

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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: SeascapeShroomerGT] * 1
    #14484934 - 05/20/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I like how they didn't mention the fact that alcohol is extremely neurotoxic and causes both long term brain and organ damage.

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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: Dawks]
    #14484982 - 05/20/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Exactly!! it's been extensively proven that it causes severe long and short term damage. If alcohol were invented now, the anti-drug companies would be pushing so hard for it to be Schedule 1...


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: SeascapeShroomerGT] * 1
    #14485307 - 05/20/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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SeascapeShroomerGT said:
From: [url=http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/it-s-background.html#alcohol]


"ALCOHOL VS. MARIJUANA

Is smoking a joint the same as drinking alcohol?

You decide. Here are the facts:

Alcohol consists of one substance only: ethanol. Marijuana contains more than 400 known chemicals, including the same cancer-causing substances found in tobacco smoke.






LOL! Who the fuck drinks pure 100% everclear exclusively when they drink? Alcoholic drinks contain loads of chemicals, many of which themselves are known carcinogens. And they're implying that getting drunk off of 100% pure ethanol is better for you than smoking a joint?? The 400 chemical argument is probably one of the oldest pieces of bullshit in the books... lots of things contain 400 chemicals. Your breakfast this morning? It probably contained more than 400 chemicals. A green pepper? Probably more than 400. And guess what? Everything is a chemical. Your skin is made of them. Water is one. Steak has chemicals in it, oh god, stay away from that shit man!


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Everything, everything's magic

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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: Force Ten]
    #14485335 - 05/20/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

while id disagree with most of what i just read i wouldn't disagree with the fact that smoking anything CAN cause cancer.

shitty article to say the least but smoking anything can lead to cancer.

one of the many reasons i vape my herbs.

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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: Force Ten]
    #14485395 - 05/20/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Okay so marijuana is bad, alcohol is also bad.

However if one combines the two into a tincture, you get your classic

Negative + Negative = Positive


Thereby giving you health benefits.

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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: kushfarts]
    #14485521 - 05/20/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

kushfarts said:
while id disagree with most of what i just read i wouldn't disagree with the fact that smoking anything CAN cause cancer.

shitty article to say the least but smoking anything can lead to cancer.

one of the many reasons i vape my herbs.




The reason you get cancer from tobacco is because it is grown with a fertilizer that is radioactive. It is not smoke that causes cancer, its radiation from the fertilizer that is used to make the plants grow big and fast.

The only thing "bad" that happens to your body from smoking pot (besides any mental problems, such as laziness or what have you, just physical problems) is that you're still inhaling heated plant matter. Your lungs still get resin in them. While it isn't exactly "healthy," if you were to stop smoking your lungs would eventually clear out again, and have no long term damage done.


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: Joolz] * 1
    #14489201 - 05/21/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Joolz said:
The reason you get cancer from tobacco is because it is grown with a fertilizer that is radioactive. It is not smoke that causes cancer, its radiation from the fertilizer that is used to make the plants grow big and fast.



Source on this?
I have never heard anything like this...

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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #14489222 - 05/21/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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PoisonCrazy said:
Quote:

Joolz said:
The reason you get cancer from tobacco is because it is grown with a fertilizer that is radioactive. It is not smoke that causes cancer, its radiation from the fertilizer that is used to make the plants grow big and fast.



Source on this?
I have never heard anything like this...




ya foreal.

source pls.

as far as i know combustion of any solid matter will produce CARBON MONOXIDE

and CARBON MONOXIDE in and of itself is a CARCINOGEN

= cancer.
but shit i puff it up every day. what doesnt give you cancer.

people have been smoking various plants for EVER.


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: k00laid]
    #14489257 - 05/21/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

k00laid said:
Quote:

PoisonCrazy said:
Quote:

Joolz said:
The reason you get cancer from tobacco is because it is grown with a fertilizer that is radioactive. It is not smoke that causes cancer, its radiation from the fertilizer that is used to make the plants grow big and fast.



Source on this?
I have never heard anything like this...




ya foreal.

source pls.

as far as i know combustion of any solid matter will produce CARBON MONOXIDE

and CARBON MONOXIDE in and of itself is a CARCINOGEN

= cancer.
but shit i puff it up every day. what doesnt give you cancer.

people have been smoking various plants for EVER.





Not sure about the radioactive part.. but marijuana does NOT cause cancer. The THC has anti-tumor properties which stop cancer from forming when you smoke it.


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: DesignatedTripper]
    #14489266 - 05/21/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

DesignatedTripper said:
but marijuana does NOT cause cancer. The THC has anti-tumor properties which stop cancer from forming when you smoke it.




sauce? <3


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: k00laid]
    #14489279 - 05/21/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

k00laid said:
Quote:

DesignatedTripper said:
but marijuana does NOT cause cancer. The THC has anti-tumor properties which stop cancer from forming when you smoke it.




sauce? <3




http://scienceblog.com/18538/thc-cuts-lung-cancer-growth-spread/


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: k00laid]
    #14489290 - 05/21/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

http://www.mombu.com/medicine/cancer/t-donald-tashkin-smoking-marijuana-does-not-cause-lung-cancer-carcinogens-1220511.html

Look into Dr. Donald Tashkin and some of his work. He used to be the main guy sayin that marijuana SHOULD cause cancer cause of all the carcinogens. But his more recent research found that apparently THC stops tumors from developing inside the airways and lungs. And studies can find no link between just smoking marijuana and cancer.

Not sayin it's harmless. But the evidence seems to show it won't cause cancer on its own


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: DesignatedTripper]
    #14489293 - 05/21/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ah beat me to it! :wink:


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Re: Wtf?! Alcohol Vs. Marijuana Comparison on Anti-Drug Website (FAIL) [Re: SeascapeShroomerGT]
    #14489331 - 05/21/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone up to start an anti alcohol website saying it gives you aids?
i cant believe people are allowed to spread misinformation like this. what the fuck...

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