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OfflineCosmicFlex
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    #14484133 - 05/20/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys its my first time growing shrooms and i bought everything i need but i think i got the wrong vermiculite...on the back it says 99%vermiculite less than 1%crystallien sillia or someshit...should i try it?if not i need a legit place to order it offline considering iv looked for it EVERYWHERE in my location. Any advice on the verm and tips for me on my grow is much appreciated!


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Re: First time grower [Re: CosmicFlex]
    #14484148 - 05/20/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Also is vermiculite suppose to be a shiny?goldish shinyish


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Re: First time grower [Re: CosmicFlex]
    #14484548 - 05/20/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have read that 100% verm is what you want, but u should try it anyway, silica shouldn't be a problem as far as I know. But don't put all your eggs in one basket, get some 100% verm. Try them out side by side and get the word out on the results. who knows? It might be better

Yes verm is sometimes golden, mine is. But don't get your verm from myco supply, it's way to coarse, get fine, especially for PF tek, coarse wont stick to a cake when you dunk and roll. Coarse won't be a problem for casings or substrate, you will have to adjust the amount though, as coarse absorbs less water by volume due to increased airspace per volume.

And make sure you don't drill 1/4 inch holes in a shotgun fc like I did, RH will be way to low.

Don't get spores from spore store, it's a scam, you get blank syringes

And get a PC. I get 100% contamination when I steam

Don't repeat my mistakes


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Re: First time grower [Re: King Cap]
    #14484571 - 05/20/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Steaming works just fine for PF tek.....Ive had 1 contaminated jar of like 150 steaming in a pot and a top....Just have to do it right and follow directions...


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Re: First time grower [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14484575 - 05/20/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

and yes, verm is supposed to be shiny....You want the fine verm though, not the large chunks


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Re: First time grower [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14484633 - 05/20/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you do decide to steam. Do some test jars, steam a couple, then let them sit without inoculation for a few days, leave the tape on the holes in the lid. If any contams appear,it was doomed from the start. I've lost all mine, following RR's videos to the letter. I even tried doubling the steaming time, no luck

This is why I recommend pressure cooking. 0% contamination rate on every round of jars ive done since I got mine.

I  had a jar I pressure cooked, let it sit for a month cause I ran out of spore solution (did my inoculation at the peak of an LSD trip so I couldn't ration it properly. Dear god was that a strange experience), I check it for contams every few days and it never had any growth of any kind inside it and its now 90% colonized with hawaiian. A pc is just safer.


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Re: First time grower [Re: King Cap]
    #14489059 - 05/21/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I will be pressure cooking ona count of what you've been saying...i want to get my first time right, if i can. I got my spores from a local grower my buddy is goodfriends with thhey are cubs B+ so im hoping it goes well. i have another question though, do you guys think if i brought in a ionizer(cost $500 id be borrowing it)to keep the air clean while injection and what not, even during the whole PF process it would be a good idea? I figure this might help because back when i went to my friends(one who owns the ionizer) the whole house smelt clean as can be. Only reason im asking is because im currently livinng with some messy ppl who arent big in to keeping clean dust wise an id be pretty pissed if i fucked up my first set of jars because of the roomies.


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Re: First time grower [Re: CosmicFlex]
    #14502756 - 05/24/11 03:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know about ionizers, sorry. I am allergic to mold (kind of ironic concerning my hobby) so I have a hepa filter, a whispure. it runs almost constantly in my room, I move it into my bathroom/ laboratory the night before. I suggest vacuuming the room outside the bathroom to minimize risk.When I inject I leave the tape over the holes, wipe the lid with a germx wipe, and inject through the tape (all inside a still air box). Wear gloves, wear a CLEAN long sleeve shirt. Seal the gap with tape. I have a spray bottle of alcohol I spray it all around the air to kill any airborne mold. Look inter the ionizer, it might help,i don't know however and dont want to give you false information. As for your room mates get them to clean with the "mushrooms are fucking awesome don't you want to eat a bunch?" arguement


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