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Doc_T
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14483412 - 05/20/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: Everyone here pushes cakes on noobs and make them feel like they can't do bulk first, that is bull, bulk is much easier IMO.
How many times are you going to flog this dead horse? Best practice is to start with cakes for many reasons. Grains can be done by newbs (I did it, lots of other people too) but cakes are easier.
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3n1gm4 said: I will never make another cake,
Try it someday when you're bored and need a new project- can you get the sorts of yields people talk about with cakes? Like a black belt coming back to take a fresh look at white belt material.
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: Doc_T]
#14484053 - 05/20/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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3n1gm4 said: I will never make another cake,
Try it someday when you're bored and need a new project- can you get the sorts of yields people talk about with cakes? Like a black belt coming back to take a fresh look at white belt material.
My best yielding cakes were crumbled into coir/verm in a tray, and everything I got from that tray was still small in comparison to the third flush in my zoo poo sub mono tub. I am going to order some more zoo poo from heady poo, best pinset I have had and the first time I have dunked and everything didn't abort that was already pinning.
Yeah, if people here would push agar and isolation and cloning and master cults here as hard as they do those giant marshmallows, I would have probably already had a great flush off of a WM pint cake and tons from HP cakes. Then you might actually get some pins, teks like PF are not for me, I have never failed with bulk coir. ] I accidentally gave away my last EQ print but I noced up a quart for GLC just before so I am hoping that it will fully colonize and at least give me one good print. The only syringes or prints I want to buy is PE and pan ones.
I have made enough cakes I gave most of my HP WM jars away, I kept enough to do a few isolates at a time, I am going to try this tek I saw that just used ELME and distilled water and do some isolates in my ousted closet and cross my fingers.
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14484090 - 05/20/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had a grow once, 16 pint sized cakes made with just dark rye flour and verm. Produced close to 5 dry ounces. It was amazing, I don't really know how it happened, but it hasn't happened with cakes since.
And from that grow I harvested a few single mushrooms which dried up to 5-7 grams each, and one that dried to just over 12. Needless to say... I only ate the cap... 8D
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King Cap
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14484112 - 05/20/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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A couple serious pieces of advice. DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT order your spores from sporestore.com, it's a scam, you'll get blank syringes. Get them from Ralphsters. Also don't bother with steaming PF jars, I've had a 100% contamination rate with that method. Get a pressure cooker, an 8 quart model is $39.99 at wal mart, saves you a lot of grief. And lastly don't get your verm from mycosupply, it's extremely coarse and won't stick to pf cakes.
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: King Cap]
#14484724 - 05/20/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can grind up verm very easily
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King Cap
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14484909 - 05/20/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: You can grind up verm very easily
I put mine through the food processor and it just bounced around. What's a better way?
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: King Cap]
#14485127 - 05/20/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Short taps on the processor till they are in small pieces or break them in small pieces first.
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: King Cap]
#14485133 - 05/20/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Also don't bother with steaming PF jars, I've had a 100% contamination rate with that method. Get a pressure cooker"
funny, I've had 100% non contamination rate from steaming jars - you must have doing something wrong or not long enough because I have used several different pots that all worked fine. I've grown quite a few jars as well - its not just a few lucky times I had - there really is no need for a pressure cooker with PF Tek
Steam sterilize for 90 minutes after the boil starts
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Doc_T
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14485140 - 05/20/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: Yeah, if people here would push agar and isolation and cloning and master cults here as hard as they do those giant marshmallows,
I talk up agar to newbs all the time dude.
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King Cap
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Re: considering growing for 1st time. is it as easy as it seems? [Re: Doc_T]
#14485176 - 05/20/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea I'm gonna to agar soon. My first crack at quart jars of grain is in the pc as I write this. Making sport prints from my PF grow in the meantime.
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