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jokefox
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really need some help now
#14482355 - 05/20/11 01:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i just checked on a tun thats been colonizing a day, and its really really hot
i mean i opened the lid and it was just steam , and theres a few spots that almost burn my hand when i touch it, is this bad?
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14482378 - 05/20/11 01:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Depends where the heat source cam from? Direct sun?
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Re: really need some help now [Re: blurt]
#14482384 - 05/20/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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no its in a room , in a house
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14482387 - 05/20/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not to be a 'retarded noob', but are you incubating it? Where are you storing it? What is the ambient temp of the room its in? Hot to the touch seems a bit warm....
But again, im a 'retarded noob' so what do i know?
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Re: really need some help now [Re: KrizzKaliko]
#14482397 - 05/20/11 01:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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in a tote, in a house, at room temp
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14482422 - 05/20/11 01:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you kill the top of the myc with heat you will have to scrape it or get only side and bottom pins. Bad news is that scraping off a dead top layer may cause more problems or may do nothing, but if you are careful you might find pins under the dead spiderweb like thin layer.
More info would help man, I don't go to the store and ask the clerk what would be the best kind of light bulb to use for a room in a house with doors and painted walls. Oh and it is dark in the room...thats why I need the light bulb. Then they sell you a 700 watt high pressure sodium light and you have to take it back because it wont fit in your mickey mouse night light.
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Re: really need some help now [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14482425 - 05/20/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you use a high pressure sodium light inside the tub?
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Re: really need some help now [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14482439 - 05/20/11 02:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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its a 36 gallon tote,
30 quarts sub (manure, straw , compost, verm , perlite) 10 quarts spawn (cubensis)
its spawn run started 2 days ago, the mycelium is getting fluffy and it looks all good
but when i opened the tub i saw alot of steam , and i could smell the co2,
im not sure if its just the amount of sub and spawn thats causing the heat, it is spring and temps are atleast +12c right now, the tub is next to another one in a shelving unit,
it seemed a little moist so i wiped down the walls and the lid of the tote, i put the tote elevated so the bottom can cool a little bit, and this stage im just scared of it composting before colonizing from the look of the steam
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Re: really need some help now [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14482474 - 05/20/11 02:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: I don't go to the store and ask the clerk what would be the best kind of light bulb to use for a room in a house with doors and painted walls. Oh and it is dark in the room...thats why I need the light bulb. Then they sell you a 700 watt high pressure sodium light and you have to take it back because it wont fit in your mickey mouse night light. 
  
@OP...sounds like decomposition you got there my friend. if you got no other source of heat and its steaming, i cant think on any other explanation. i advise you not to stick your head in and take a smell just to check tho. all those contams will feck up your lungs.
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Re: really need some help now [Re: shroomzi8]
#14482490 - 05/20/11 02:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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its not doing it any more, and it cooled down alot, its just warmer then cold now,
the mycelium seems to love it
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Re: really need some help now [Re: shroomzi8]
#14482495 - 05/20/11 02:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should untape a hole or two and stuff with poly semi tight, myc makes its own heat as do all your sub materials wwhen they decompose. Was your poo good and field leeched?
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Re: really need some help now [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14482507 - 05/20/11 02:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: You should untape a hole or two and stuff with poly semi tight, myc makes its own heat as do all your sub materials wwhen they decompose. Was your poo good and field leeched?
i just did that before i checked this
the poo is perfect,its not the manure,
im thinking, the heat from the day, mixed with a slight higher moisture content, with to little GE and the size, all added to the heat, i mean , i can see the mycelium growing threw, and the heat was just biult up today, and it was a pretty hot day
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14482557 - 05/20/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I had a Hpoo sub that did the same thing, it was always really warm upon opening and not one pin on the top just a few on the sides?
Sometimes it just decides to fruit upside down I guess. Or maybe it was the heat.
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Re: really need some help now [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14482622 - 05/20/11 03:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe its from firefang?
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14482639 - 05/20/11 03:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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jokefox said:
...and i could smell the co2...
how? CO2 is inodorous...
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Re: really need some help now [Re: GrimTripper]
#14482693 - 05/20/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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GrimTripper said:
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jokefox said:
...and i could smell the co2...
how? CO2 is inodorous...
You are WRONG...lol CO2 smells like air.
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Edited by 3n1gm4 (05/20/11 03:45 AM)
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Re: really need some help now [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14483359 - 05/20/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Heat is generated while the mycelium colonizes a substrate, especially when spawning to manure. This is why it's good practice to never incubate colonizing bulk above room temperature (~21c).
I don't really see how it's possible that it was hot enough to burn your hand, however. It almost sounds like you have managed to start a small compost pile.
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Re: really need some help now [Re: Sillicybin]
#14483644 - 05/20/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I composted the last place I wanted to its like the eco friendly touch.
And when I say I smelt co2 . I mean there was no smell
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14484000 - 05/20/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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jokefox said: I composted the last place I wanted to its like the eco friendly touch.
And when I say I smelt co2 . I mean there was no smell
It smells acidic....even if CO² doesn't smell, you will notice that prickling acidic touch, like if you just opened a bottle of sparkling water. I know what you meant.
Edited by Luger0815 (05/20/11 11:42 AM)
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Re: really need some help now [Re: Luger0815]
#14484022 - 05/20/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sounds like composting to me, I hope it survives. P.s., thanks again on the trade, it's been working out wonderfully
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Re: really need some help now [Re: SomeGuy]
#14484236 - 05/20/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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either way ,all visible mycelium is growing nicely the bin has cooled down to a normal temp , im just going to keep it suspended,
i really wish i remembered the ratios i used, i mean compost in less then 48 hours, dam
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Re: really need some help now [Re: Luger0815]
#14487885 - 05/21/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Luger0815 said:
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jokefox said: I composted the last place I wanted to its like the eco friendly touch.
And when I say I smelt co2 . I mean there was no smell
It smells acidic....even if CO² doesn't smell, you will notice that prickling acidic touch, like if you just opened a bottle of sparkling water. I know what you meant.
ok I get what u mean now... didn't mean to be a dick
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Re: really need some help now [Re: GrimTripper]
#14487996 - 05/21/11 01:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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GrimTripper said:
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Luger0815 said:
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jokefox said: I composted the last place I wanted to its like the eco friendly touch.
And when I say I smelt co2 . I mean there was no smell
It smells acidic....even if CO² doesn't smell, you will notice that prickling acidic touch, like if you just opened a bottle of sparkling water. I know what you meant.
ok I get what u mean now... didn't mean to be a dick 
No problem...
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14488099 - 05/21/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sounds like your mix is N hot and you have a really strong composting going. problem is with heat like that the mycelium will die and you will be taken over by bacteria in my experience.
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Re: really need some help now [Re: Psychoslut]
#14488535 - 05/21/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Properly pasteurized substrate won't compost/build heat. The microbes have been killed off or reduced in number enough to prevent it. RR
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Re: really need some help now [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14491688 - 05/21/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Properly pasteurized substrate won't compost/build heat. The microbes have been killed off or reduced in number enough to prevent it. RR
so your telling me using a wagner steamer and 2 different therms and 3 hours at 155f isent enough
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Re: really need some help now [Re: jokefox]
#14491724 - 05/21/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you should start the timer when the center of the sub reaches 140F and then hold it between 150F and 160F for at least an hour. Over 90-120 minutes is too long as the extended heat kills off the beneficial microbes more and makes your poo less effective.
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Re: really need some help now [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14492138 - 05/22/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i know center of the bag blah blah , i know how to grow shrooms lol ive written teks, like agar broth , pretty sure thats an original around here, thats bi-winning
just had a question about a steaming tub, kinda scared the shit out of me,
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