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OfflineShroom Overlord

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    #14481434 - 05/19/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Black cow manure from lowes some coffee grounds and verm. so would this be an a good substrate for my 12 jars? they will be birthed as cakes dunked and rolled.


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Re: substrate [Re: Shroom Overlord]
    #14481464 - 05/19/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive never used the black cow maure but I have used verm/horse manure back when I did cakes and it worked great


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Re: substrate [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14481571 - 05/19/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i figure any kind of manure and coffee grinds would be better than brf and verm right?


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Re: substrate [Re: Shroom Overlord]
    #14481843 - 05/19/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Actually BRF has more nutrients than manures,the coffee helps boost N but can contaminate more easily,personally I only use coffee water when I pre soak grains


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Re: substrate [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14481887 - 05/19/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so would i be wasting money by buying cow manure when i already have the brf? and the coffee grounds wouldnt do anything to increase flush size? what about coco coir and verm
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Re: substrate [Re: Shroom Overlord]
    #14481919 - 05/19/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Your best to stick with BRF for cakes and leave coir,manures for bulk substrates.I wouldn't use coffee in with the BRF,the BRF already has enough nutes to provide nice fruits,coffee adds N and you don't want to overdo it with N


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Re: substrate [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14482592 - 05/20/11 02:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Manuer nono, unless you have experience with the exact temps on your stove at certaqin settings or it is digital and will set on 160F, Damion5050's elementary coir tek is noob friendly and works great, get some gypsum and add it to everything you grow, gypsum makes myc happy.


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Re: substrate [Re: Shroom Overlord]
    #14488632 - 05/21/11 07:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Black cow manure from lowes some coffee grounds and verm. so would this be an a good substrate for my 12 jars? they will be birthed as cakes dunked and rolled.



You can't birth cakes and spawn them to a bulk substrate at the same time.  You'd have to skip the birthing step (with the soak being optional), crumble them cakes, and pasteurize the substrate you'v proposed.  It's best to just fruit cakes as cakes and prepare grain spawn to be spawned to a bulk substrate.

When using coffee grinds, be sure you use coffee grinds that have been spent at least once and have been dehydrated before mixing them into the dry substrate materials mix.  Don't add spent coffee grinds at more then 5% by volume of dry substrate materials.

I used to use Black Cow manure.  The steps taken to prepare the manure was actually quite work extensive and took days before the manure was ready to be used as a bulk substrate material. 

Save your money.  You'r far better off going to a cow or horse field and gathering the field aged, dehydrated chunks of manure or buying coir instead.  Personally, I'm manure bias.  However, coir/verm/gypsum makes a great bulk substrate if manure is not convenient for you to locate.


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