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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: grimR]
    #14472356 - 05/18/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Update ...

Dupnik won't release more info about SWAT shooting of Tucson man
May 17, 2011 - azstarnet.com

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department will release no more information about the circumstances surrounding the killing of Jose Guerena during the serving of a search warrant by the department’s SWAT officers May 5 at his home.

Two weeks after the shooting the department has yet to disclose exactly what they were searching for in the Guerena home as well as three other residences in the area that were subjects of a drug investigation. Court documents that show what officers were searching for in the case have been sealed and what was seized as evidence has also been sealed.

Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, through a department spokesman Tuesday morning, declined an interview request.

No one from the department will comment about the case until the investigation is complete, Deputy Jason Ogan said Tuesday. There is no timeframe for when the investigation will be over, he said.

On May 5, five members of the SWAT team fired 71 shots at Guerena while serving a search warrant at the 7100 block of South Redwater Drive. He was shot 60 times.

The 26-year-old former Marine was sleeping at about 9:30 a.m. after working the graveyard shift at Asarco’s Mission Mine when his wife woke him saying she heard noises outside and saw a man was at their window. Guerena told his wife to hide in a closet with their 4-year-old son, his wife said. He grabbed an AR-15 rifle and moments later was slumped in the kitchen, mortally wounded from a hail of gunfire.

Guerena did not fire a shot and his gun had the safety on, deputies said, after initially saying he had fired on the SWAT officers.

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: veggie]
    #14472851 - 05/18/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

71 rounds of ammunition divided by 5 SWAT members comes out to 14 shots per officer.  If that isn't the definition of trigger happy I don't know what is.  This entire story is so sickening and now his kid will grow up without ever knowing the father.


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: SuperD]
    #14472876 - 05/18/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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SuperD said:
71 rounds of ammunition divided by 5 SWAT members comes out to 14 shots per officer.  If that isn't the definition of trigger happy I don't know what is.  This entire story is so sickening and now his kid will grow up without ever knowing the father.





Hopefully his kid starts a militia.  Fuck the SWAT team.

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Maverick]
    #14480768 - 05/19/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tucson KGUN’s Joel Waldman says the SWAT team prevented paramedics from going to work on Guerena for one hour and fourteen minutes.

While PCSD initially claimed Guerena fired the weapon he was alleged to have been holding, the department now says it was a misfire by one of the deputies that caused this deadly group panic inside a home containing a woman and a toddler




Holy fuck, these are the stupidest fucking pigs ever. I don't usually use the word pigs but it seems to work here. They don't even let him get emergency help after they fucking shoot him? Holy fucking christ this is horrible. If this isn't a police state then I don't know what it is.

fuck this is messed up.

^What I said in the other thread about this.

Overall all this is just a very sad and fucked up thing.

:sad:

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Fuck those lying pigs.


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: The Vapor]
    #14480915 - 05/19/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We can rest easy knowing that non-drug users are just as likely to murked as we are.

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: veggie]
    #14481031 - 05/19/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how many police officers usually storm a house like five or six? A glock 27 holds nine rounds without any after market clip. This means out of five officers they all emptied a clip into him and then loaded up again and blasted more lead at him.

trigger happy cunts need to try that shit on me, i sleep with a mossberg 500 with three inch mag buck shot. i promise ill turn one or two to pudding before they get me.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481044 - 05/19/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

was it a glock? i was under the impression this was a swat team with uzi guns, i was imagining 1 ocp emptying a clip in 5 seconds into him


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14481069 - 05/19/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

maybe you are right im just going on the guns city traffic cops carry. but regardless it is illegal for the police to do anything above and beyond what is required to subdue the situation.

didnt they have to give him a chance to drop his weapon or is that just in the movies?


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481100 - 05/19/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

CopsSayLegalizeDrugs.com

ask me why! or read the article! :smile2:


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481110 - 05/19/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what there basically "trying" to say is he was pulling a bin laden and wanted to hose them all down as soon as they opened the door, except his gun had its saftey on the 'entire' time even after they pumped 72 shots into him and he laid dieing

so your right, but there lieing to try and cover it up inwhich case everyone is sure to believe them.

Even if he had said what they claim, thats a typical response to anyone tresspassing.  People blow shots off into the air when kids throw rocks through a farm window or something


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Society]
    #14481115 - 05/19/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

more of them would jump that bandwaggon when they get sick of there friends getting turned to pudding by buck shot.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481131 - 05/19/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The police are allowed to make as many accidents as they want as long as they're following "protocol."


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Society]
    #14481149 - 05/19/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the fear of being shot to death is the only reason they dont run around doing random searches on everyone for everything.

strap up man, someone is going to want to start Marshall law soon enough i thinks.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481169 - 05/19/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Marshall law is pretty much here and or its got its foot in the door.  Authority will generally find a way to accomplish its agenda and become more powerful.


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: The Vapor]
    #14481384 - 05/19/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tucson KGUN’s Joel Waldman says the SWAT team prevented paramedics from going to work on Guerena for one hour and fourteen minutes.

While PCSD initially claimed Guerena fired the weapon he was alleged to have been holding, the department now says it was a misfire by one of the deputies that caused this deadly group panic inside a home containing a woman and a toddler




Holy fuck, these are the stupidest fucking pigs ever. I don't usually use the word pigs but it seems to work here. They don't even let him get emergency help after they fucking shoot him? Holy fucking christ this is horrible. If this isn't a police state then I don't know what it is.

fuck this is messed up.

^What I said in the other thread about this.

Overall all this is just a very sad and fucked up thing.

:sad:

P.S.

Fuck those lying pigs.




Its going to GET a LOT worse as long as we take it.
Our lives are worth nothing. The police would rather shoot you DEAD than to chance you even touching them. And now thanks to the supreme court they can come in your house whenever they feel like making up a reason...
        It took a revolution to make this country, it may just take one to reclaim it!

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: thelivingfreekshow] * 1
    #14481394 - 05/19/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah one day if they find a single illegal mp3 in your house it will be justification for lead poisoning.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14481747 - 05/19/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

All you have to do is answer your door if the cops are there and if no warrant you can tell them to fuck off  ( although if they want, they can fabricate a reason to force their way into your home), if you dont answer the door and they think you are up to something, or are just peices of shit, they can just kick in your door and run up in there. But if they had reason to be there then why wouldnt they just get a warrant? they can be approved in minutes. This new ruling basically makes it ok for cops to go door to door interrogating people and invading privacy, and if someone doesnt answer their door COPS NO LONGER have to get a warrant, they can come in on ANY WHIM they can think of.
    Our homes are definitely the ONE place where we should be assured our privacy. Now, that has been stripped from us. Soon we'll be living in tent cities so we're easier to watch. Why is it popular in this country for people in any position of power and authority SPIT on our Constitution, and treat it as it was irrelevent, or somehow out of date? Our freedoms will continue to shrink until either they are ALL gone, or we finally get sick of it and elect a leader who isnt a war mongering corporate puppet who is content with propping up dictators in foreign countries, spending us into oblivion, and trying to regulate our personal habits. :rolleyes:

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14481752 - 05/19/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
Quote:

The Vapor said:
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Tucson KGUN’s Joel Waldman says the SWAT team prevented paramedics from going to work on Guerena for one hour and fourteen minutes.

While PCSD initially claimed Guerena fired the weapon he was alleged to have been holding, the department now says it was a misfire by one of the deputies that caused this deadly group panic inside a home containing a woman and a toddler




Holy fuck, these are the stupidest fucking pigs ever. I don't usually use the word pigs but it seems to work here. They don't even let him get emergency help after they fucking shoot him? Holy fucking christ this is horrible. If this isn't a police state then I don't know what it is.

fuck this is messed up.

^What I said in the other thread about this.

Overall all this is just a very sad and fucked up thing.

:sad:

P.S.

Fuck those lying pigs.




Its going to GET a LOT worse as long as we take it.
Our lives are worth nothing. The police would rather shoot you DEAD than to chance you even touching them. And now thanks to the supreme court they can come in your house whenever they feel like making up a reason...
        It took a revolution to make this country, it may just take one to reclaim it!





Pretty sure that law is only valid in Indiana....for the moment.


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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: Humility]
    #14481762 - 05/19/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Pretty sure that law is only valid in Indiana....for the moment.




Actually, no it was the U.S. Supreme Court

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Re: [AZ] Tucson SWAT Team Kills Armed Homeowner in Drug Raid [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14481784 - 05/19/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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thelivingfreekshow said:
All you have to do is answer your door if the cops are there and if no warrant you can tell them to fuck off  ( although if they want, they can fabricate a reason to force their way into your home), if you dont answer the door and they think you are up to something, or are just peices of shit, they can just kick in your door and run up in there. But if they had reason to be there then why wouldnt they just get a warrant? they can be approved in minutes. This new ruling basically makes it ok for cops to go door to door interrogating people and invading privacy, and if someone doesnt answer their door COPS NO LONGER have to get a warrant, they can come in on ANY WHIM they can think of.
    Our homes are definitely the ONE place where we should be assured our privacy. Now, that has been stripped from us. Soon we'll be living in tent cities so we're easier to watch. Why is it popular in this country for people in any position of power and authority SPIT on our Constitution, and treat it as it was irrelevent, or somehow out of date? Our freedoms will continue to shrink until either they are ALL gone, or we finally get sick of it and elect a leader who isnt a war mongering corporate puppet who is content with propping up dictators in foreign countries, spending us into oblivion, and trying to regulate our personal habits. :rolleyes:



I agree minus the tent cities

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