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Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone?
    #14478912 - 05/19/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I really would like to go this summer, but the ticket prices are insane. I think im the only person out of my group of friends who could afford it. Is this a good or bad idea?


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay]
    #14478941 - 05/19/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My best friend since kindergarden are going to Europe in July. Flying into Dublin and spending some time there in Ireland then going to Amsterdam. I'll only be there for three weeks but my friend has considerably more cash than I and will be trekking around Europe for several months alone after I head home.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay]
    #14478943 - 05/19/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Good idea.

Its a fairly safe place, theres a lot of police about.  If you go on your own you can do whatever you want without other people expecting you to entertain them or do things you may not want to do.

If you do want to party with a group everyone is there to party so you can just walk up to anybody and chat.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay] * 1
    #14478957 - 05/19/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It would be stupid not to go.
Enjoy the trip :mushroom2:


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay]
    #14478986 - 05/19/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Theres a really cheap campsite in zeeburg near amsterdam.  The hotels in the center are REALLY expensive.  I suggest camping or they have little wooden houses you can hire.

Theres a tram right next that runs all night that will take you to the center :thumbup:  Thats the cheapest way to do it.

Also go to the Bulldog.  They let you smoke and drink in the same room (most places don't allow this) and have loads of good entertainments ;-)

And, take your own supply of food because the shops are really expensive.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14479034 - 05/19/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I spent a week in Rotterdam last February got drunk and got lost in the city had zero problems very open a kind people they speak english, dutch and french so no problems being understood but still a better idea to have travel buddies.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: Gotlib]
    #14479046 - 05/19/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah rotterdam is really quiet compared to Amsterdam its a nice place.  Amsterdam is a proper headfuck if you are like me and get a bit sketched out when your really stoned cuz its so crowded and theres always someone asking you for something.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14479060 - 05/19/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i was told that haarlem is also a good place, ill probally stay there and then travel to Amsterdam.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14479085 - 05/19/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah really enjoyed Rotterdam I highly recommend it to anyone who want a quieter Amsterdam. I was staying about one kilometre from the Erasmus Bridge.
I was there at the end of March very mild and sunny and NO SNOW !!!


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14479096 - 05/19/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Are you a hot chick?  If you answered yes then you shouldn't travel alone..  Sorry.  Check out some back packers forums, you might find someone nearby who's going the same time you are..


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: Livingood] * 1
    #14479175 - 05/19/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Bah fuck that - learn to defend yourself.

A twist of the balls or poke in the eye is just as effective no matter what sex you are.

Besides its amsterdam, they can buy a pussy for a dollar.  :smile:  I thought it was a pretty safe place.  Friendly, loads of police about.  The cities here are worse.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14479813 - 05/19/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Defending yourself is irrelevant, if you are outnumbered and they are determined, it's over...  There are a lot of opportunities for things to happen between here and there.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14479882 - 05/19/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I suggest camping or they have little wooden houses you can hire.





:rofl: hire a house. i like that.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: Livingood]
    #14480063 - 05/19/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No its very relevant.

Nobody should hide away forever not travel anywhere just in case some thing happens.  :confused:

If a gang wanted to do something to you they can do it to you in your home or home town or anywhere regardless of your sex. 

Your point is pointless.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14497920 - 05/23/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Didn't she ask if she should travel alone?  Maybe I misunderstood, because I never said anything about never going anywhere, just don't go alone..


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay]
    #14497947 - 05/23/11 07:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i was told that haarlem is also a good place, ill probally stay there and then travel to Amsterdam.



Personally, I like Haarlem a lot better than Amsterdam. It has a really nice city center with typical Dutch houses, and it's a lot less crowded than Amsterdam. The people tend to be a little less aggressive than in Amsterdam, and they're not as sick of the hordes of stoned tourists staggering around. And if you ask me, there's absolutely no reason at all to visit Rotterdam if you're a tourist. It's about the ugliest city imaginable, and the people are definitely not friendlier than in the other 'big' cities.

About traveling alone: I don't see any particular problems there. Of course, every big city has bad neighborhoods, but you're unlikely to see much of them as a tourist.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: koraks]
    #14498218 - 05/23/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I went last year with a few mates and was surprised by how safe it was, i was planning on going alone this year until some friends decided they wanted in.

I think it'd be amazing to go alone, i for one could get way more done


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: StrictlyCommercial]
    #14498287 - 05/23/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Being worried about safety traveling from wherever you are to Amsterdam is pretty much a non-issue IMO.

Can something happen?  Sure.  People exist, and even if they didn't, nature exists.

The chances are extremely low however.


You could walk through Detroit buck naked as a woman and your chances of being raped aren't as high as you might think they are.  They are high enough however that it isn't the most prudent thing to go around doing.

Traveling to Somalia or Sudan; relatively dangerous.

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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: Livingood]
    #14498684 - 05/23/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Didn't she ask if she should travel alone?  Maybe I misunderstood, because I never said anything about never going anywhere, just don't go alone..




I don't think OP declared their sex.  I'm going traveling alone :shrug: If I only went out in a group I'd never do anything. 

Besides I'm not worried about being killed, attacked, robbed or anything like that.  Its all a matter of perspective.  I feel sorry for people that exist in states like that.  Its just life.  For all I know an asteroid might land on my head tomorrow but I'm not gonna stay inside forever.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14498905 - 05/23/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I go to all parts of Holland regularly by myself it is my launch pad to get to any rave in europe, Amsterdam is 1 hr flight from me it is no different to any other hardcore city in the world, you get caught knapping some fucker will roll you if your in the wrong area of town, i never get any bother but that might be because i am 1m82cm and 243lbs with a skin-head to the scalp.

Rotterdam is cool but people are not so happy to speak English especially if you just walk in and start speaking English expecting English back. Most can speak English, this is similar to most of the non tourists areas of The Nederlandse, in tourist areas everyone automatically speaks English, for this reason i learnt my first Dutch phrase "Sprekt ew Engels?" it breaks the ice nicely and separates you mentally from the people they hate who they currently thought you were.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: Livingood]
    #14498975 - 05/23/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you a hot chick?  If you answered yes then you shouldn't travel alone..  Sorry.  Check out some back packers forums, you might find someone nearby who's going the same time you are..





fuck that.  "shouldn't" is so subjective.  it's entirely dependent on whether you're of a risk-averse nature or not.  if you're one to play it safe, never step outside of your comfort zone, never willing to take a risk for the sake of living life, then no you "shouldn't". 

but in all seriousness, amsterdam is not a dangerous place.  hell, the majority of western europe is rather safe.  i wouldn't recommend a female do too much solo hitching or anything, but a single female can totally have a rather safe and fulfilling experience traveling alone.


so far as the OP goes, none of us know you well enough to tell you if it would be stupid for you to travel alone in amsterdam.  i can tell you that it's ridiculously user-friendly from a tourist point of view.  you won't even really have to step out of your comfort zone as you will be constantly surrounded by similarly young, naive, and ready-to-party travelers--assuming you do the hostel thing.  there will be guides every step of the way, if you so desire it.  the main thing you'd have to worry about is your wallet.  and i'm not even talking about pickpockets.  it's just too damn easy to spend money.

tl;dr amsterdam is a city made for tourists.  don't be a pussy.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay]
    #14499109 - 05/23/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I really would like to go this summer, but the ticket prices are insane. I think im the only person out of my group of friends who could afford it. Is this a good or bad idea?




I've looked into it extensively myself and I founf out the cheapest (and possibly funnest) route is to take air-lingus to Ireland (~350$ both ways) and to hitch-hike to England. From there you can either take a train for 100$ or hitch-hike your way to Holland.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14499309 - 05/23/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I really would like to go this summer, but the ticket prices are insane. I think im the only person out of my group of friends who could afford it. Is this a good or bad idea?




I've looked into it extensively myself and I founf out the cheapest (and possibly funnest) route is to take air-lingus to Ireland (~350$ both ways) and to hitch-hike to England. From there you can either take a train for 100$ or hitch-hike your way to Holland.





That is hillarious - Hitchhicking from Ireland to England then accross England then across either the English Channel or the North Sea crossing, you could pay to cross these are either crossed by ferry boat of the channel tunnel, this is not something you could hitch - never mind ignoring the thought of getting through the backwaters of middle England hahahaha there are no go areas all over the place depending on your race and skin colour all accross this area of Britain, not to mention all the hick crazy country folk who dont like folk who are doing whatever you are doing when they found you - not to mention any time your in the cities and your at the mercy of the chav gangs of youth and thuggery would would stab you for your sneakers and whatever is in your bag hahaha England is a very rough place especially in the low income areas, here we don't have many guns so the violence is always up close and very personal, I am 243lb and 1m82cm and i have been knifed twice and i live in a half decent area


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14499570 - 05/23/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Lol its not that bad!

I've hitch hiked all around southern england before and never had any troubles.  I've even walked though the really dodgy areas of inner city and been fine.  TBH you should stay away from dodgy city areas, the country side is fine though you don't get any problems... english country folk are just normal people they are unlikely to bother you unless you bother them.  You can hike across farmland and sleep in woods and barely see a soul if you plan it right.

Thats pretty bad that you have been knifed twice!  What happened?  A guy I know got stabbed but it was only because he kept going out brawling every weekend which is kinda asking for it.  I got held up at knife point once but I just gave them my wallet and they left.  It only had £3 in it so I wasn't bothered about the loss.  :shrug:


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14499684 - 05/23/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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BestDay said:
I really would like to go this summer, but the ticket prices are insane. I think im the only person out of my group of friends who could afford it. Is this a good or bad idea?




I've looked into it extensively myself and I founf out the cheapest (and possibly funnest) route is to take air-lingus to Ireland (~350$ both ways) and to hitch-hike to England. From there you can either take a train for 100$ or hitch-hike your way to Holland.





That is hillarious - Hitchhicking from Ireland to England then accross England then across either the English Channel or the North Sea crossing, you could pay to cross these are either crossed by ferry boat of the channel tunnel, this is not something you could hitch - never mind ignoring the thought of getting through the backwaters of middle England hahahaha there are no go areas all over the place depending on your race and skin colour all accross this area of Britain, not to mention all the hick crazy country folk who dont like folk who are doing whatever you are doing when they found you - not to mention any time your in the cities and your at the mercy of the chav gangs of youth and thuggery would would stab you for your sneakers and whatever is in your bag hahaha England is a very rough place especially in the low income areas, here we don't have many guns so the violence is always up close and very personal, I am 243lb and 1m82cm and i have been knifed twice and i live in a half decent area




hmm, perhaps england is worse than I thought. In my youth (ok, like last year) I'd hitch-hike from Sudbury, to barrie to Toronto and back. I even hitched  rides from Orangeville all the way across the border to Cleveland. (9hr non stop trip. Took me 26hrs. About 7 of those hours were trying to find someone willing to lemme cross the border with them.

So a trip is possible, and even quite feasible. And I've never been stabbed, or robbed, or raped. (moderately attractive girl). Always carry a 8'' serrated knife though, just in case.

And I thought there was a Bridge across England and Ireland.....

Reason for editing: spelling errors :smile:


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: StatuesCryBleeding] * 1
    #14499693 - 05/23/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, yeah, you'll most likely be alright. I mean, it's not like you're thinking of going into Beirut and opening a bagel stand all by your lonesome...


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
    #14499715 - 05/23/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

One of the stabbings was over £5 in my wallet and male pride - i did not like the idea of giving my wallet to this little shithead with a knife, so instead of giving him my wallet with only £5 in i went for the knife hand, he stuck me in the gut before i could grab his wrist pull him close and headbut him to the floor before realising how well he had got me, knife went through my liver and spleen 5 inches (15cm) into my body, i ended up having a 4 hr laporascopic operation to save my life. Doctors left a 16cm scar from my navel up to my chest haha scar looks like a sword with my belly button and the hair leading down from it looking like the hilt


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14499724 - 05/23/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely no bridge or tunnel between Ireland and England


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14499734 - 05/23/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not worth risking your life for pride.  Not for me anyway.  I can take an ego bruise a lot easier than a knife wound.

Did the guy get caught and go to jail?


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: nice1]
    #14499749 - 05/23/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah i also got £5000 in compensation from the criminal injuries compensation board, it was great cos i got it 18 months later but it was still shit as fuck because if we were standing in a hospital with the finest doctor on hand and you said let me stab you in the gut for 500'000 i'd tell you to fuck off politely

reason for edit

I agree with you about pride completely but back then i was 20 and I had not tamed the beast of pride as I had a lot of it convinced i was an alpha creature of our species


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14503799 - 05/24/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for all the feedback everyone, i agree that its all about what i make it. If im not one of those people who live in a box constantly worrying about what might happens and the dangers that lurk around every corner. If i was i wouldnt have even asked this question.

I have the common sense and street smarts to a degree to know when i should be aware of my surrounding and then when i can be care free.

I just simply dont want to miss out on the chance just because my friends cant go. I Just know nothing about Holland which is why i asked.


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay]
    #14503812 - 05/24/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

holland is pretty awesome.  definitely worth the visit.  the cities other than amsterdam are worth a visit too.  i suggest looking into couchsurfing.org

it's extremely unlikely that you'll find a couch in amsterdam in the summer months, given that it will no doubt be in huge demand.  however, it's much more likely you'll find a couch in utrecht or rotterdam.  both cities have a decently active couchsurfing scene and won't have nearly as much demand as amsterdam couches.


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    #14503829 - 05/24/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

amsterdam sounds like a great trip


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    #14503840 - 05/24/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

anyone else interested in going lol


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: BestDay]
    #14503862 - 05/24/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hell yeh but probably wouldn't be prepared anytime soon

and nothin wrong with a solo adventure man, that could be great. no one to hold u back


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    #14503876 - 05/24/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You will be sound, only street to avoid in Amsterdam is the very top end of the Shopping street kalverstraat where it changes name to Nieuwendijk as this turns the corner it is a prime mugging zone, it is locally known and you will see lots of signs warning you about zakenrollers (spelling might be wrong there but it is pickpockets). This area is alright in daytime but becomes abandoned once it is after 1am and if you accidentally find yourself here this is bad, I once was down this way in a coffeeshop after visiting the Amsterdam branch of Midtown Records for some serious gabba shopping and as i was travelling back through this street to my hotel it was about 2am and I noticed i was being marked as a possible target and three lads were debating whether they could take me, they were on opposite sides if the narrow street i was walking through ansd they were coordinated without speaking, as i realised they were plotting and readied myself to possibly defend myself until i could run they realised that i realised they were plotting and i guess this changed their minds about whether or not i was gonna be an easy roll and they waitied for the next fish


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Re: Would it be stupid to travel to Amsterdam alone? [Re: GGTBod] * 1
    #14504155 - 05/24/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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GGTBod said:
You will be sound, only street to avoid in Amsterdam is the very top end of the Shopping street kalverstraat where it changes name to Nieuwendijk as this turns the corner it is a prime mugging zone, it is locally known and you will see lots of signs warning you about zakenrollers (spelling might be wrong there but it is pickpockets). This area is alright in daytime but becomes abandoned once it is after 1am and if you accidentally find yourself here this is bad, I once was down this way in a coffeeshop after visiting the Amsterdam branch of Midtown Records for some serious gabba shopping and as i was travelling back through this street to my hotel it was about 2am and I noticed i was being marked as a possible target and three lads were debating whether they could take me, they were on opposite sides if the narrow street i was walking through ansd they were coordinated without speaking, as i realised they were plotting and readied myself to possibly defend myself until i could run they realised that i realised they were plotting and i guess this changed their minds about whether or not i was gonna be an easy roll and they waitied for the next fish




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