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Offlineonnagata
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Childs mother yelled at me
    #14477481 - 05/19/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I work at an after school "fitkids" camp @ my local tennis club.

This 11year old black boy was making fun of little kids and talking back to me. I put him in time out for 10 minutes.

...about 5 minutes into the timeout, a women from the front desk comes to the park and says " drew's mom wants him to walk him"

So i thought that time would not matter and he could finish timeout.

I said back the front desk women " okay he is in timeout so it will be a minute, but he will walk home"

front desk women - " His mom has an important meeting to go to though".

me - oh okay i will send him now.

so has I am walking across the park to tell drew to get his stuff and go to the front desk, two little girls walk up to me in a dissagrement and blah blah......

2 minutes pass by.

I tell drew grab your bag and walk home, you can finish timeout later.

Drew "11 yeard old boy" grabs his back pack and just has he picks it up his mother STORMS onto park grounds and says " WHO TOLD My SON HE CANT COME HOME ?"

The miunute i heard the tone od this Bizatch, i walked right up to her and said my name is ********* and I never said your son cant walk home, he is leaving right now.

The black women said " I am filing a complaint against you, dont you know i have an important meeting."

I said " go ahead and file"

" just for that I am really going to do it"

"please go ahead"


.....so she storms off after yelling at me infront of all the other children.

alll the other kids are like freaking out and coming up to me and asking whats going on.


bottom line.

If my boss tries to tell me i did wrong or blah blah blha...IM QUITTING ON THE SPOT.....but im going to clear my name first of course.

crazy lawer mom.....


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: onnagata]
    #14477497 - 05/19/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its not your responsibility to discipline other peoples kids.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: onnagata]
    #14477610 - 05/19/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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onnagata said:
This 11year old black boy


crazy lawer mom.....



I call bullshit

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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14477615 - 05/19/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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nimrod said:
its not your responsibility to discipline other peoples kids.



Its not? She should just let the kid make fun of other kids and be a dick while shes 'in charge' of them all?


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: twighead]
    #14477625 - 05/19/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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twighead said:
Quote:

nimrod said:
its not your responsibility to discipline other peoples kids.



Its not? She should just let the kid make fun of other kids and be a dick while shes 'in charge' of them all?



yes, look what happened when she tried to go all slave master.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14477638 - 05/19/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

what i would have done is talked to the child like a human being, made him feel bad about what he had done, focus the entire group on the situation and then made ammends together. not place an 11 year old boy in timeout. come on.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14477642 - 05/19/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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its not your responsibility to discipline other peoples kids.




it is her responsibility so long as he is in charge, which in this case it seems so.  if that kid were to get lost, she would be blamed for lack of responsibility.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14477643 - 05/19/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:lol: Parents are going to be touchy no matter what. Kid deserved it if you ask me, I doubt she sent him to the dreaded timeout without fairly good reason.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: mongo lloyd] * 4
    #14477644 - 05/19/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nobody cares that their children are little shits anymore. i've seen parents let their kids get away with some RIDICULOUS things.
not to mention how all little kids have phones, computers and televisions.
i would quit, too. then again, i have way too low of a thresh-hold for bullshit to work with gambinos anyway...
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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: onnagata]
    #14477655 - 05/19/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

now you see why the kid has that temper.
some people are just not qualified to have kids :facepalm:

you shouldn't stress out, you didn't do anything illegal or wrong.
you're just lucky she didn't accused you of being a racist, happened to me in my former job :shrug:


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: pouihi] * 2
    #14477684 - 05/19/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

she is racist. why does it matter if they were black? we didn't need to know that. it wouldn't have changed the story.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #14477685 - 05/19/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You should have gave dat boy a whoopin'.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14477714 - 05/19/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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nimrod said:
why does it matter if they were black? we didn't need to know that. it wouldn't have changed the story.





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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: biff]
    #14477720 - 05/19/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was talking about the mom accusing the OP of being a racist.
Which can come to happen, and in that case would change the outcome of the story.

I said that I had a client who took advantage of being black and I white to accuse me of being racist.

I don't know why the OP specified the kids skin color but he might be able to answer.
Although I think accusing him of being racist for having said that is a bit extremist.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14477730 - 05/19/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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nimrod said:its not your responsibility to discipline other peoples kids.




It's timeout, not a beating.

Do you have kids?  Would you want your kid(s)acting unruly in a day care setting?..and then they come home and do the same shit, when the child can be corrected of their societal issues right there.  Give me a fucking break. 

Timeout is known as a therapeutic way to correct a child's inappropriate behaviors without physical contact or harsh language.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: MadSeasonAbove] * 2
    #14477862 - 05/19/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Skin color is a physical attribute. Nothing more and nothing less. Good stories paint a picture. That helped paint a picture. There is nothing racist about it. Everybody who thinks it is racist to mention skin color is perpetuating racism. There is nothing wrong with mentioning a physical attribute. Would it have been wrong if he mentioned somebody had brown hair or blue eyes?


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: bryguy27007]
    #14477873 - 05/19/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I work as an after school care facility also and where we do give the kids warnings, if they are doing something like teasing the others or bullying, we give them time out. We are lucky to have parents that agree and when they come to pick them up during their time out, they just wait and talk to me about what had them in timeout in the first place.

I don't think you will have a problem with it at all I just hope she doesn't pull some kind of card that obviously wasn't present in the situation when filing her complaint.

Also, this:
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bryguy27007 said:
Skin color is a physical attribute. Nothing more and nothing less. Good stories paint a picture. That helped paint a picture. There is nothing racist about it. Everybody who thinks it is racist to mention skin color is perpetuating racism. There is nothing wrong with mentioning a physical attribute. Would it have been wrong if he mentioned somebody had brown hair or blue eyes?




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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: bryguy27007]
    #14477906 - 05/19/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

of course not.
but would you say this 11 year old green eyed kid to tell a story that has nothing to do with his green eyes?

I think that's what nimrod meant, although as I said I think it's extremist to call someone a racist for that.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: pouihi]
    #14477920 - 05/19/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well the way I see it, when referring to some of the children to friends I would call them "the redheaded 8 year old" or "the one who might be gay." We never mean it to be hurtful or anything because we are talking to our friends who don't know the children's names and so its just their attributes. I imagine that is what she was doing here.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Takura001]
    #14477985 - 05/19/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Omg why the fuck does it matter. The kid got in trouble and deserved to go into time out. I dont care how old you are. If you act like a little brat in public under someone elses care you get a time out. End of story.
My daughter , needless to say knows better than to act up like that, but if she does she get time out and then we talk about it after wards.
The mom in OP's story sounds like the kind of person who doesnt have time for her kids and just lets them be unruly little brats.
I cant stand that shit.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14478009 - 05/19/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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nimrod said:
what i would have done is talked to the child like a human being, made him feel bad about what he had done, focus the entire group on the situation and then made ammends together. not place an 11 year old boy in timeout. come on.



you obviously dont have kids or have been around them much


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: hippielauren] * 2
    #14478013 - 05/19/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

sounds like she was quite the nagger, amirite?:randy:


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Salomon]
    #14478030 - 05/19/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:lolsy:


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: hippielauren] * 1
    #14478045 - 05/19/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Salomon said:
sounds like she was quite the nagger, amirite?:randy:




Quote:

hippielauren said:
:lolsy:






I like that op mentioned she was black, it gives me an idea of the attitude op was dealing with.

You politically correct folks need to quit giving into that crap.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Psychoslut]
    #14478078 - 05/19/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Psychoslut said:
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Salomon said:
sounds like she was quite the nagger, amirite?:randy:




Quote:

hippielauren said:
:lolsy:






I like that op mentioned she was black, it gives me an idea of the attitude op was dealing with.

You politically correct folks need to quit giving into that crap.



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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: hippielauren]
    #14478101 - 05/19/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

enjoying this little racist circle jerk are we?


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14478157 - 05/19/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:hitler:

wtf???


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: bryguy27007]
    #14478168 - 05/19/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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nimrod said:
she is racist. why does it matter if they were black? we didn't need to know that. it wouldn't have changed the story.



Quote:

bryguy27007 said:
Skin color is a physical attribute. Nothing more and nothing less. Good stories paint a picture. That helped paint a picture. There is nothing racist about it. Everybody who thinks it is racist to mention skin color is perpetuating racism. There is nothing wrong with mentioning a physical attribute. Would it have been wrong if he mentioned somebody had brown hair or blue eyes?




Maybe it was to help show and paint a picture of how the woman stormed in talking to her(if you know ppl like that and can use your imagination). Different races act differently and it helped me imagine the kind of voice and attitude she had at this girl.

Personally if she needed to be somewhere that badly she should've picked him up bc it's notnyour fault he acted up.  Also it's not your job to be on her schedule regardless of who the person is.  You were doing your job, put him in time out, heard he needed to walk home then was told he needed to immediately.  You went to send him home, got distracted by kids complaining(your job to deal with that first) and then got to the other kid.  His mother was just being impatient and should've scheduled more time and she was only being a bitch bc of being in a rush.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14478185 - 05/19/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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enjoying this little racist circle jerk are we?



no ones being racist here, you are taking things out of context.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: hippielauren]
    #14478196 - 05/19/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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hippielauren said:
Quote:

Psychoslut said:
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Salomon said:
sounds like she was quite the nagger, amirite?:randy:




Quote:

hippielauren said:
:lolsy:






I like that op mentioned she was black, it gives me an idea of the attitude op was dealing with.

You politically correct folks need to quit giving into that crap.



agreed :thaaannks:




For sure. Black women are fiesty ones in general.
Her son probably picks up on a lot of her dynamics in handling situations and emulates.



Also, dude, black is not the preferred nomenclature. African American. Please.

And of course you're going to get put on time out in a day care or a tennis camp if you're acting out.
You've got a bunch of kids to handle, and it's not fair to eat into the others' potential playing time if the stupid kid is being difficult.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod]
    #14478217 - 05/19/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

On the claim of racism: I agree its racist, but not in the way most people think of racism.  In the definition that most people have of racism, I don't think it was directly racist.

With that said, it sure as hell is othering and reaffirming that being white is the default way to be in the eyes of our society.  But I digress, thats not really a conversation that I want to jump into here. 

However, I do think that as a teacher, care person at a school, daycare, whatever, one has the right to separate the child from other children, especially if the kid is being a little jerk.  Light punishments like that are fine.  There are times when things go way too far, but this was definitely not one of them.

Regarding the parent...  Parents are just like that a lot.  They can complain and bitch, but in the end it doesn't really matter.  Especially since it was a misunderstanding in the first place.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: nimrod] * 2
    #14478219 - 05/19/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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its not your responsibility to discipline other peoples kids.





hahah that is one of the most retarded things I have ever heard....dude works at a day care haha


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: ifoundwaldo] * 1
    #14478220 - 05/19/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

is a black man who was born in Canada, and has never been to either America or Africa, an African American?



no. he is a black Canadian



is a black man who was born in America but has never been to Africa, and African American?


no. he is a black American



calling somebody black is not racism, so fuck yalls political correctness


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Salomon]
    #14478248 - 05/19/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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is a black man who was born in Canada, and has never been to either America or Africa, an African American?



no. he is a black Canadian



is a black man who was born in America but has never been to Africa, and African American?


no. he is a black American



calling somebody black is not racism, so fuck yalls political correctness


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Salomon]
    #14478255 - 05/19/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You don't have to go to Africa to be African.
I'm Scottish, and I've never been to Scotland.

I was just joking about the black thing anyway...


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14478303 - 05/19/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

im irish/german but have never been to either place but i plan on it some day.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14478343 - 05/19/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You don't have to go to Africa to be African.
I'm Scottish, and I've never been to Scotland.

I was just joking about the black thing anyway...





yea i'm just making a point.:salmon:


le example: i'm polish/German/Italian/reptilian. but my race is white.


i am not a polish/German/Italian/reptilian American. i am a white American.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Salomon]
    #14478419 - 05/19/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

ifoundwaldo said:
You don't have to go to Africa to be African.
I'm Scottish, and I've never been to Scotland.

I was just joking about the black thing anyway...





yea i'm just making a point.:salmon:


le example: i'm polish/German/Italian/reptilian. but my race is white.


i am not a polish/German/Italian/reptilian American. i am a white American.




Yeah. I'm not from anywhere near the damn Caucasus Mountains. :kingcrankey:


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14478429 - 05/19/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: bryguy27007]
    #14478442 - 05/19/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Skin color is a physical attribute. Nothing more and nothing less. Good stories paint a picture. That helped paint a picture. There is nothing racist about it. Everybody who thinks it is racist to mention skin color is perpetuating racism. There is nothing wrong with mentioning a physical attribute. Would it have been wrong if he mentioned somebody had brown hair or blue eyes?




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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Mind Transcribing]
    #14478778 - 05/19/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this little tan kid was acting up in class today.

the mother being black was never implied.

and yeah it is your job to discipline children in that scenario.

it's interesting how people use the power method(stick or carrot) to teach. teaching through internalization is supposed to work better, but i don't have the patience for kids.

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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14478875 - 05/19/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah well, the only true Americans are the so called "Native Americans", if we were to name people based on their ascendants instead of country of birth...
You may have ancient origins from some specific place but your nationality is your place of birth.
Anyway I think that's just bullshit terminology.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: onnagata] * 1
    #14478924 - 05/19/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You mentioned this parent was a woman.  We didn't need to know that.  It didn't change the story at all.

Your obviously a sexist, self hating woman.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: johnm214]
    #14479129 - 05/19/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

political correctness is a concept people call up to control others speech. the story was about the mother but calling attention to the kid being black shows a probable prejudice towards blacks on the part of the author, not outright racism.

protect unpopular speech, it's the only kind worth protecting. go westboro baptists, lol


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: johnm214]
    #14479502 - 05/19/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You mentioned this parent was a woman.  We didn't need to know that.  It didn't change the story at all.

Your obviously a sexist, self hating woman.



Now that is a good point. OP wasn't being racist, she was just describing an attribute of the child. I fucking hate that attitude - 'so this black guy-' 'YOU CAN'T SAY BLACK YOU RACIST FUCK!!'.


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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: Salomon]
    #14479531 - 05/19/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: propensity]
    #14479567 - 05/19/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Childs mother yelled at me [Re: unam sanctum]
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