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SGFC questions...
    #14468486 - 05/17/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just recently started a PF Tek style grow and in making my SGFC I had to use a nail and heat to make the holes but I am wondering They are aprox 1/8 in in diameter and honestly it looks like swiss cheese lol also my tub is slightly opaque green not clear and I am wondering if these specifications will give me problems or help. I still have like a week till fruting or more I just want to try to correct any problems before they actually become problems...


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14468517 - 05/17/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th time you've deviated from the tek?

You keep on like this, things aren't going to go well. I would highly recommend sticking to the tek.

That being said you might want to go over your holes again with that hot nail, and stretch em out a bit by spinning it CW or CCW. That our double up and make them 1 inch apart instead of 2.

Opaque green? Im not sure on that.

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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: KrizzKaliko]
    #14468555 - 05/17/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's not deviation I am using the things that are available to me plain and simple. Which is something that I am encouraged to do to learn and ACTUASLLY I DID FOLLOW ADVICE I was just asking if I did it right and they are aprox 1 in apart because of the size. The only things I had to change were the size of my jars and the holes in my FC thanks.
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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14471527 - 05/18/11 02:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Shrooms use a certain part of the full light spectrum to derive energy from, a green tub may block some or part of that light. You could try this, cut a hole in your lid by tracing a jar rim on the lid and lighting it like this if you feel froggy


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14471567 - 05/18/11 02:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

About an inch apart the size of a nail is perfect if you do every square inch of the tub and lid. Remember you need a spot in the lid for light to get in through too, which is why most people use clear tubs. While not ideal you could make it work just fine.


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: gofudgeyourself]
    #14471586 - 05/18/11 02:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I tried a clear window in a colored tub and it was a pain in the ass, I attached a $3 weather resistant light socket to a 1 1/2 inch hole in a WM pint jar lid. Drilled some holes to vent heat in the lid, cut a hole in the lid and the jar slips right in the hole and stops at the lip near the threads, works perfect and gets the light closer to the sub. Anything bigger than a 13-15 watt CFL heats up too much though, I burned one tub up with a quart jar and a 26 watt bulb. Home depot has the light sockets for $3 just search weather resistant light socket on their site.:shrug::goodluck:


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14471937 - 05/18/11 06:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I was just asking if I did it right and they are aprox 1 in apart because of the size. The only things I had to change were the size of my jars and the holes in my FC thanks.





Considering that a 1/8" hole is only 25% of the area of a 1/4" hole, there would need to be at least four times as many to get the same level of fresh air exchange.  However, I experimented with using four times as many small holes, and fresh air and humidity always suffered.  Use 1/4" holes.  It might mean a trip to the hardware store is in order because you still need a clear tub too.  Don't use that green one, or cut a hole in the top.  More light will enter from the sides anyway, not directly overhead.
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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14472394 - 05/18/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Unfortunately all I have is the green one but hear me out its light green and kind of foggy clear if that makes any sense its slightly opaque while still letting light through and honestly my tub doesn't have a lid I was planning to use clear visqueen (thick durable plastic my mom has used for decades on greenhouses for her gardening) And I haven't even considered artificial lighting because my first attempt at finding the bulbs I was looking for was an utter failure due to the incompetence of every clerk I talked to and the only bulb they had was the wrong size when I found it anyway. I was planning on  using indirect sunlight because I have undisturbed access, I'm not really striving for huge crops or perfect idealized grows don't get me wrong I want the best bang for my buck but I keep hearing dont go crazy with my set up so what is the general consensus here?


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14472405 - 05/18/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I also have the time on my hands to mist and fan 7-10 times a day if necessary. I am a work from home student and that's it. I have nothing else to divide my time so I can be a devoted caregiver.


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14473315 - 05/18/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i too found myself straying from teks because availability of items. as far as your fc being green, i used an opague black wastepaper basket w/ 5/8" holes. just 1 hole on each side right at the substraight lvl, w/ plastic wrap duct-taped over the top to keep in humidity. keep in mind though i wasnt usin a sgfc w/ cakes, i used the garbage can as a minitub and wbs spawned to 50/50 c/v. anyway, my first flush was 30g dry. second flush is still in progress, 1 mush started growing about 5 days b4 the other few that are comming up, i just picked the 1 and its 110 g wet, my biggest thus far. i guess what im getting at is i cant see the color of the container affecting anything all that much as long as the lid is clear, if ya dont have a clear lid maybe cut the middle out of the lid and tape p,astic wrap over the hole you cut out. idk, it worked for me w/ great results, but if its 1 thing i learned on this site is different things work for different ppl. ide stay as close to a tek as you can untill you get fruits, keep researching, and just see what works best for you. took me many tries and mant failures b4 i ended up w/ fruits like this

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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: evilexluv]
    #14473415 - 05/18/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

heres a pic of my waste basket loli would say if this thing allowed enough light in then a translucent green tub should be ok. oh, the above pic was grown in this black basket.

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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: evilexluv]
    #14473541 - 05/18/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow that makes me want a short round fat garbage can to put a couple of my CFL jar lights in.


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14473564 - 05/18/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha, to think i was gonna throw that out because i didnt think i let it colonize enough after mixing the spawn w/ the c/v. i put it back into incubation after a week of fruiting. 4 days later i had 3 inch long pins.here was the entire 1st flush.

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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: evilexluv]
    #14475885 - 05/18/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I went to home depot today and bought a 'clear' sterilite tub unfortunately I could only get an opaque green top, however I cut a rectangular hole  about a third of the lid size directly in the middle of the lid. I covered it with a sheet of plastic lighting cover and silicon glued it into place I covered my tub in 1/4 in holes approx 2'' apart (no exact placement just a tad uneven) on every single surface I could I located a 5500k fluorescent bulb still dont have a hygrometer any other comments or concerns will have pics the second I can get a hold of a damn camera~! 10 days and counting!!!


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14477315 - 05/19/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i find that natural daylight is sufficient enough. i dont like using any type of grow light in fear im gonna get my fc to hot. all my fc's  are in my storage room on 1 side, theres a fan on the other side, and 1 window. my tubs are on the opposite side as the window so they arent ever in direct sunlight. when i did my cakes, i could only seem to get them to fruit in 2 liter soda bottles.lol. prolly my lack of time to mist more than once a day. when i did mist i misted the sides of the bottle, not the cake directly. seems everytime i misted the fruits directly they aborted. well at least when they were small, once they got bigger they seemed to take a little more to the direct spraying. the green lid wouldnt even matter if your fc is clear. oh, i never used a hygrometer either. i used damp perelite in the bottom of the fc, 3 inches ish, and misted when i could.  once, sometimes twice a day. seemed to be enough to get average flushes from them.

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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14477319 - 05/19/11 07:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cheap hygrometers suck, get one that is adjustable from a cigar shop, then you can calibrate it to read the correct RH.


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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: babz89]
    #14477337 - 05/19/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So I went to home depot today and bought a 'clear' sterilite tub unfortunately I could only get an opaque green top, however I cut a rectangular hole  about a third of the lid size directly in the middle of the lid.




Seal the hole you made in the lid and simply hang your light to one side of the terrarium instead.  Mushrooms do far better with light from one side than directly overhead.  If you're using the terrarium in front of a bright window, you can save your light for future grows.  A few minutes of direct sunlight each day will work wonders for a better pinset and bigger, heavier mushrooms.

You can and should mist from day of initiation until day of harvest.  Disregard bad advice not to mist.  The only reason misting would cause aborts is if one failed to provide the proper amount of fresh air.
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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14477349 - 05/19/11 08:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

and this is why i love you RR hehe. i was wondering wtf they were aborting. i chalked it up to direct spraying because when i stopped doing it, they started growing. thanx mate. listen to this guy babz, he knows his stuff:thumbup:

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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: evilexluv]
    #14477486 - 05/19/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Addressing the 1/8in hole size:

It's not just one-fourth the surface area of a 1/4in hole, in applied physics... See, there is turbulent fiction of the air as well. Whether it be gas or liquid, there is lose of throughput do to fiction. This is important to note when plumbing an automated chamber as well. Tiny holes will allow for gas exchange, but not do too well for fresh air exchange...

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Re: SGFC questions... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14478008 - 05/19/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So I went to home depot today and bought a 'clear' sterilite tub unfortunately I could only get an opaque green top, however I cut a rectangular hole  about a third of the lid size directly in the middle of the lid.





Seal the hole you made in the lid and simply hang your light to one side of the terrarium instead. RR 




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I covered it with a sheet of plastic lighting cover and silicon glued it into place I covered my tub in 1/4 in holes approx 2'' apart (no exact placement just a tad uneven) on every single surface I could



I did cover the hole with plastic lighting cover and GLUED it into place with silicon glue it has the friggin 1/4 in holes my step dad let me use his drill. Waiting on the jars now and goddamn they look great with any luck I can post pics today!


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