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CHIEF-CHEESE

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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: xFrockx]
#14492470 - 05/22/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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"The tao that can be told, is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named, is not the eternal Name. The unnamable is the eternally real. Naming is the origin of all particular things. Free from desire, you realize the mystery. Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations. Yet mystery and manifestations arise from the same source. This source is called darkness. Darkness within darkness. The gateway to all understanding." Lao-Tzu
"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing" - Hermes Trismegistus
"Both read the Bible day and night, but thou read black where I read white. If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern." - William Blake
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley
"“Science is all metaphor. Think for yourself, question authority. Turn on. Tune in. Drop out.” - Timothy Leary
"The future of communication is the future of the evolution of the human soul. The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." - Terence McKenna
All of these quotes share a common philosophical thread. Each of these people approached the duality of mind and body as two aspects of the same thing. They all advocate taking control of your own subjective idea of the objective world by realizing that it's all you have to work with. The heroes and villains of history cannot not exist with or without the other. Whether you agree with what they had to say or not, you are blocked to their true intentions, just as the blind are to color.
So was McKenna full of his own shit? Of course he was. So are you, and so am I. We share a common language of words defined in polarity to each other, and our understanding of the grand scheme is so nebulous that none of us are absolutely sure what we are trying to explain. Real intellectuals realize they are performing a role to create the illusion that they have it all figured out, and because most people are not keen enough to figure this trick out, it keeps working. Why else would a master bullshit artist be the leading figurehead of the free world?
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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: CHIEF-CHEESE] 1
#14492868 - 05/22/11 06:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So was McKenna full of his own shit? Of course he was. So are you, and so am I. We share a common language of words defined in polarity to each other, and our understanding of the grand scheme is so nebulous that none of us are absolutely sure what we are trying to explain. Real intellectuals realize they are performing a role to create the illusion that they have it all figured out, and because most people are not keen enough to figure this trick out, it keeps working.
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“We all need to try to understand what is happening. We need to try to understand what is happening, and in my humble opinion, ideology is only going to get in your way. Nobody understands what is happening… not Buddhists, not Christians, not government scientists…not, ya know, no one understands what is happening. So forget ideology. They betray. They limit. They lead astray. Just deal with the raw data, and trust yourself. Nobody is smarter than you are. And what if they are? What good is their understanding doing you?
Inform yourself. What does “inform yourself” mean? It means [to] transcend and mistrust ideology. Go for direct experience. What do you think when you face the waterfall? What do you think when you have sex? What do you think when you take psilocybin? Everything else is un-confirmable rumor, useless, probably lies. So liberate yourself from the illusion of culture. Take responsibility for what you think and what you do."
IMO He knew this applied to his stuff too.
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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: Cups]
#14493328 - 05/22/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The only problem with McKenna is the folk who worship (some) of his words.
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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: Icelander]
#14493660 - 05/22/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Woah you didn't cap yourself yet! That's cool
But to reply, I have the same problem with Becker, Jesus, and most other people.
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CHIEF-CHEESE

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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: xFrockx]
#14497581 - 05/23/11 04:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If the only objective truth is it's own subjective fragmentation, every possible truth is a self-evident paradox- a "paradoxiom" if you will.

Edited by CHIEF-CHEESE (05/23/11 04:35 AM)
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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: CHIEF-CHEESE]
#14497862 - 05/23/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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", every possible truth is a self-evident paradox- a "paradoxiom" if you will. "
So is that statement true or a self-evident paradox?
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CHIEF-CHEESE

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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: xFrockx]
#14499473 - 05/23/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: So is that statement true or a self-evident paradox?
Both?
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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: CHIEF-CHEESE]
#14501089 - 05/23/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know, it is what it is.
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Re: McKenna: Prophet of Nonsense [Re: xFrockx]
#14504008 - 05/24/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Terrence Mckenna was hardly a prophet now was he? Anyway i heared he used the math and dates to measure novelty in his own life and apperantly it corresponded with his own life and when others did it they also experienced synchronisity with his novelty theory.
I think that's interesting as i assume he was able to make this with help from mushrooms and if this holds truth it's the only theory that takes into account experience. And that's interesting right? Because a mushroom trip is an experience and so is UR life. That the calender ends in 2012 is irrelevant
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I haven't really ventured out of the pub, but i think i'll be staying here for a while. 
IMO McKenna has some interesting stuff, but even though drugs aren't necessarily a bad thing, you can't have all your work revolve around them like he does.
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