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lilcitylowlow
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: grainbrain]
#14614499 - 06/14/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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How is that big as bin doin?
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bloodworm
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lilcitylowlow said: How is that big as bin doin?
pretty good. top seems a little slow to colonize. i'm kind of stuck between options. should i start to fruit it now or let it hang out and colonize a bit more?  i'm thinking about letting it dry out for a few days and see if that has any impact on myc. development... i'll update with pics in a bit. give me a few minutes to take some pictures. taping the sides was a solid idea, but i'd love to be able to take a look at the myc. development at the current moment. 
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14614653 - 06/14/11 09:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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"the dung tub"

what's the general consensus here? should i keep on misting and keep it covered, start watering and fruiting or let it dry out some and see if that helps with myc. development. mycelium is definitely forming on the top. it is just doing so at a fairly slow rate imo. i could be wrong however, what does everyone else think?

overall, i'm pretty happy with the progress of the tub though and i'm sure i should see some nice fruit from it. 
thanks in advance,
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lilcitylowlow
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14614714 - 06/14/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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well ive been watching the my grow on that patty and it grows really goos if i mist a few times one day and them let it dry out for a day or two and the mist it again a few time. i just broke mine up into more of a sub style and spread the my around a little.
ill let you know how it work from here. i watered today now im gonna let it dry out for a day or two and see if the myc starts to spread out or not..
your cakes are looking really nice. And thats from a wild print right? ive got a few lc's i made from that wild cyan i got and im thinking of just poring one all in my outdoor patch mixing a lil and seeing what it will do. any ideas would help. it's fresh cpoo from my field and it been outside im my patch for a little longer than a week and has been watered every other day. Id like to know if this might work?
Thanks man.
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lilcitylowlow said: well ive been watching the my grow on that patty and it grows really goos if i mist a few times one day and them let it dry out for a day or two and the mist it again a few time. i just broke mine up into more of a sub style and spread the my around a little.
ill let you know how it work from here. i watered today now im gonna let it dry out for a day or two and see if the myc starts to spread out or not..
your cakes are looking really nice. And thats from a wild print right? ive got a few lc's i made from that wild cyan i got and im thinking of just poring one all in my outdoor patch mixing a lil and seeing what it will do. any ideas would help. it's fresh cpoo from my field and it been outside im my patch for a little longer than a week and has been watered every other day. Id like to know if this might work?
Thanks man.
yes. it is a wild print. straight from field, to print, to syringe, to jar. i've recently been picking early (before the veil breaks) and cutting the veil myself and then taking the print. therefore, eliminating any chance of contamination (for the most part).
i think it will work. however, id really like to see you sterilize the cpoo (substitute it for BRF) and do a pf tek style grow. those are the plans for my next grow btw. i think there might be too much competition for the cope lc to colonize if not properly sterilized and/or pasteurized. also, if you can get your hands on some fresh hpoo instead of cpoo i think you might stand a better chance. regardless, you have that patty that is producing copes. i think if you crumble it up on top of a little verm., add the lc and then case (not sure if this is necessary) with some verm., keep it covered and dark with some holes for fae you might have some luck as well. just a couple ideas...

i'm sure someone out there could answer your question a little better. if it was me, i'd probably do the simplest thing and pasteurize hpoo in the oven, put a layer of verm. down, then the layer of hpoo or cpoo, inoculate with the lc and case with a light layer of verm. i'd do all of this in a dark tub with holes to allow for FAE. i'm pretty sure you would see some colonization fairly quickly.  or, just make up some hpoo, verm and water jars, inoculate with the lc and then add that to some pasteurized hpoo to colonize. either idea sounds interesting to say the least. 
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t23

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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. *DELETED* [Re: bloodworm]
#14615295 - 06/15/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: t23]
#14615390 - 06/15/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i have been spraying over the top of the cakes and gently letting the water fall on top of them.
Ah no worries, I just read somewhere that newly forming pins can be stunted even by water droplets, but it's probably only if it's an excessive amount 
Maybe only mist the actual cakes every other time, for now, just to be safe than sorry Then when they get ~ 3" you can just spray everytang, and stop worrying about FAE as much
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by 14/10 you mean 14 on 10 off? i have been running them on a 12/12 light cycle. i was under the assumption that less light would actually speed up pin growth.
Yeah I've noticed they tend to grow faster when the lights out too, but you don't really want to speed up the growth of the ones you have just yet, you still need that initial pinning trigger I'd say when enough pins get ~ 2" go back to 12/12 then when they start getting past that you can try 10on/14off for a couple nights and see if that helps em shoot up
Again I'm no pro, and these tips really might not make too big of a difference but it should help a bit
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taping the sides was a solid idea, but i'd love to be able to take a look at the myc. development at the current moment.
Right?? I liked seein' that too lol

all advice has been taken. changed the light cycle. added a fan pointing away from the fc circulating air around the room. fanned the cakes a couple more times and misted the sides of the tub. i think i'll mist the sides twice a day and above the cakes twice a day. i'll be fanning consistently as well.

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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14615768 - 06/15/11 03:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i couldn't help myself. 


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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14615802 - 06/15/11 04:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm still no expert, but I would let the tub continue to colonize. You're trying to provide ideal conditions, which has the potential to yield more than a dung pile out in the wild that has less than ideal RH and temps.
When you go to fruit, try placing a sheet of crumpled wax paper on top of the substrate to help initiate pinning (holds in moisture and CO2). Just remove it when you fan and replace every few days. You can leave it on there until you're satisfied with the pinset.
Thanks to RR for posting this info years ago.
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: grainbrain]
#14615806 - 06/15/11 04:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i've recently been picking early (before the veil breaks) and cutting the veil myself and then taking the print. therefore, eliminating any chance of contamination (for the most part).
Any chance you got that whole idea from me? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14379426#14379426 Not saying you did but this experiment did start 15 days after I posted that so you can see why I might wonder 
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just saw this edit.
no i didn't actually.  crazy. i have done it in the past, but just started doing it on a regular basis about 2-3 weeks ago figuring it was a good way to get good clean wild prints.


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grainbrain said: I'm still no expert, but I would let the tub continue to colonize. You're trying to provide ideal conditions, which has the potential to yield more than a dung pile out in the wild that has less than ideal RH and temps.
When you go to fruit, try placing a sheet of crumpled wax paper on top of the substrate to help initiate pinning (holds in moisture and CO2). Just remove it when you fan and replace every few days. You can leave it on there until you're satisfied with the pinset.
Thanks to RR for posting this info years ago.
awesome! 
thank you sir. will be sure to take this advice.
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14621059 - 06/16/11 05:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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pins are popping in "the dung tub."  they are pretty small right now. hopefully by this evening they will be large enough to get pictures of. 
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14622213 - 06/16/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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look at that pin set!
such an awesome hobby, isn't it? I love dwelling on the potential of the fruits, as well as the fact I'm steadily exercising my patience watching them grow. Giving them a little love is good for the heart too.
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: t23]
#14624823 - 06/16/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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t23 said: hey bloodworm you can turn off the fan / shut the lid if it's cracked it's only useful for the first couple days of initiating pinning if you can't manually fan it consistently hopefully you were misting as needed, i'm sure you were but let your rh build up for a bit, incase some cakes are lagging be sure to keep your misting and fanning regimen just kill the extra fae for now until pins get bigger and others pop then you can switch it back on but i'd recommend keeping it on some sort of cycle, maybe with the light especially if you end up with water logs or fuzzy feet
gl, don't forget to update us 
updated pics coming tonight. i killed the fan and threw a humidifier in the room yesterday.  the pins are eating up the humidity. the tub started to pin. i put a sheet of wax paper over the top, as suggested and pulled it inside to let it sit by the humidifier for a bit. not sure if i want to fruit inside or out yet...
thanks man. 
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14625260 - 06/16/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love this thread!
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: mycoscopy]
#14625343 - 06/16/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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mycoscopy said: I love this thread! 
this thread loves you. 

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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: bloodworm]
#14625663 - 06/16/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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cake update:
ok. so i brought a humidifier into the fc room and have it running 24/7. i have been misting the cakes 2 times daily and misting the chamber itself 4 times daily. i am fanning about 5 times a day with a handheld fan. so far, i think everything is looking good.
any and all opinions are welcome.
"the dung tub" just started pinning and i should have pictures of that up in a little while. 


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t23

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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. *DELETED* [Re: bloodworm]
#14625664 - 06/16/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: t23]
#14625758 - 06/16/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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bloodworm
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Re: wild cube pf tek grow. [Re: lostinbq]
#14626971 - 06/17/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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"the dung tub" pins. still relatively small and few and far in between, but they are definitely starting to pop up. 


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