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Caine
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Hrethic said: Yeah, from this side of the fence, the grass might not be greener, but it's A LOT more calm and serene. There's a certain comfort in nothingness, don't you think?
Only when you look at it from a conscious viewpoint. I'm sure it's fairly so-so to its inhabitants.
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The Vapor
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Re: Death. [Re: Caine]
#14475211 - 05/18/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Death is such a good band, and I'm glad you guys like them. Human is easily their best album imo, it is just so amazing all the way through.
But yeah back on topic.
None of you have mentioned fear about death so far ( that I have read ) , so do none of you fear death?
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Dosile Kouki
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It's kind of like the chicken/egg paradox. which came first, reality or conciousness? I think i'd have to say reality because, when another person around us dies, reality continues on. or atleast from our perspective it does.
Maybe reality and conciousness are all just relative - and so that even when one dies , their 'reality' and 'conciousness' are still in tact, but have just changed relative to their circumstances.
Very interesting topic i must say.
Hrethic - I guess it's the sort of thing one has to experience for themselves to know whether they prefer placidness and serenity to stimulation and excitement. I'm sure the allure of eternal peace will have more persuasion as one gets older and experiences more suffering.
I'm petrified of death, especially considering my current viewpoint that when one dies , thats the end of everything. I haven't had much religious experience or deep psychedelic experience, and so my views on death are rather unsupported and limited.
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I'm sure death will be grand. One final hurrah for your body and that'll be the end of it. Make way for another actor in the great play of life.
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Caine
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Yeah, I definitely fear death to a certain degree, mostly it's a dull anxiety kind of fear, like you get the night before making a big speech or something. But another part of me doesn't fear it. I would be much more comfortable with death if I could be certain that reality is actually real. Because then I could assure myself that even after I died I would still remain grounded in reality, whether or not I am a corpse at the time
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i know that dude ..
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Re: Death. [Re: orison]
#14475495 - 05/18/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am apprehensive about death, because it is unknown. At the same time I am fascinated by it.
I think that consciousness is a product of chemical reactions and energy changing from one form to another. Which I brings up an interesting question. Do other chemical reactions and energy transfer events result in a different type of consciousness? Chemical reactions surround us. Conservation of energy is all around us. Great topic OP.
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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I think that before we understand what death is, we have to understand what LIFE is... because when it comes down to it the only thing that we can KNOW about death is that it is the inevitable end of life.
I really don't know what to expect, but I'll be pretty damn excited when it finally happens.
I think that if you really REALLY dread death, it means that you are not satisfied with your life. Death means the final crystallization of the life that you've lived, and if your life was worth living you shouldn't have any qualms about it ends. You should be able to look back and say "you know what, that was pretty fucking sweet. I had good times, I loved people, people loved me, and I feel like I helped make the world just a little bit better..." That's what I want to be my last thought. No regrets!
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Dosile Kouki
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thats a great outlook to have on life, but i don't really ascribe to the same view. me being only 23 at the moment, if i was to die, sure i'd look back with positivity, but i'd also look forward with disdain in knowing i'm never going to get married, have a family, have grandkids, own my own house, possibly bang jessica hawkins. Thats what my fear of death is about, about having my life cut short. If i grow to an old age and live out my days then sure i'll be happy to go, but at current i want to stick around in this life for as long as possible.
do you think if hypothetically you died tomorow you would accept it freely and be ready to pass on nunbuh? honestly?
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DosileFlynn said: thats a great outlook to have on life, but i don't really ascribe to the same view. me being only 23 at the moment, if i was to die, sure i'd look back with positivity, but i'd also look forward with disdain in knowing i'm never going to get married, have a family, have grandkids, own my own house, possibly bang jessica hawkins. Thats what my fear of death is about, about having my life cut short. If i grow to an old age and live out my days then sure i'll be happy to go, but at current i want to stick around in this life for as long as possible.
do you think if hypothetically you died tomorow you would accept it freely and be ready to pass on nunbuh? honestly?
"If anyone would come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it."
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end of consciousness. same as before we were born. The thing is people egos wont alow them to except that they wont be living eventually they have to think of something because will to live is so strong i mean unless your suicidal or something. it's one of those things that you can't keep on thinking about because your mind wont allow you to go that deep but you CAN lock on for a second. other people will keep living... but that will be the end of you. when a bug dies, it's not there anymore only their remains. same with humans. OTHER PEOPLE WILL KEEP LIVING but you wont be there. see it's all about your ego and the consept of YOU and who YOU are. youve been watching YOU and living YOUR life for (____ insert age here) years. you think your something SPECIAL because your YOU but nope. your just like everything else. this multi fucking billion complex ass universe wasnt made for just us are you fucking stupid? this place is huge. HUMANS are the ones who made religion because of their EGO that they were born with. truth is it's something WAYYYYYYYYYYYY bigger then humans and are soft ass minds. theres something that we don't fucking understand way beyond that god and hell shit THAT WE CREATED. we arent anything big, WHO THE FUCK ARE WE TO PUT AN EXPLAINATION ON THIS COMPLEX ASS UNIVERSE!! WE DONT KNOW SHIT! THATS WHY WERE STILL ASKING THIS QUESTION AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF HUMAN EXISTENCE! that's pretty much an ANT trying to figure out how the world works with gravity, particals, matter. that's actually a pretty good analagy, WE DONT KNOW>>> SHIT!!!
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my friend told me about this great documentary called "Flight from Death: The Quest for Immortality". My computer's too old to stream the the doc from online but the trailer for it makes it look like an extremely interesting topic to delve into.
check it:
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akira_akuma
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lets just say... we need to die, inevitablity. so...
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Dosile Kouki
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i love shroomery thangs like this thread
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I always liked the idea of metamorphosis.
met·a·mor·pho·sis: (in an insect or amphibian) The process of transformation from an immature form to an adult form in two or more distinct stages. (eg a caterpillar metamorphoses into a butterfly.)
Imagine if this life is the immature stage of our life cycle during which our consciousness and mind develops and grows. Then when we die, our consciousness metamorphoses into something totally different and exists in another place, and that represents our adult stage of existence.
Thats my sci-fi theory for what happens.
In reality though, I think we just come to an end and thats it. We are no more.
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The Boat said: end of consciousness. same as before we were born. The thing is people egos wont alow them to except that they wont be living eventually they have to think of something because will to live is so strong i mean unless your suicidal or something. it's one of those things that you can't keep on thinking about because your mind wont allow you to go that deep but you CAN lock on for a second. other people will keep living... but that will be the end of you. when a bug dies, it's not there anymore only their remains. same with humans. OTHER PEOPLE WILL KEEP LIVING but you wont be there. see it's all about your ego and the consept of YOU and who YOU are. youve been watching YOU and living YOUR life for (____ insert age here) years. you think your something SPECIAL because your YOU but nope. your just like everything else. this multi fucking billion complex ass universe wasnt made for just us are you fucking stupid? this place is huge. HUMANS are the ones who made religion because of their EGO that they were born with. truth is it's something WAYYYYYYYYYYYY bigger then humans and are soft ass minds. theres something that we don't fucking understand way beyond that god and hell shit THAT WE CREATED. we arent anything big, WHO THE FUCK ARE WE TO PUT AN EXPLAINATION ON THIS COMPLEX ASS UNIVERSE!! WE DONT KNOW SHIT! THATS WHY WERE STILL ASKING THIS QUESTION AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF HUMAN EXISTENCE! that's pretty much an ANT trying to figure out how the world works with gravity, particals, matter. that's actually a pretty good analagy, WE DONT KNOW>>> SHIT!!!
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Re: Death. [Re: Scraps]
#14477307 - 05/19/11 07:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yall niggas gon die. 
How scared are you?
Of dieing I mean, not death. It's stupid to be afraid of death, it's dieing I'm worried about.
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nice1
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When my granddad died he appeared to my mum a few days later and said bye. He appeared to my gran and told her some stuff that was going to happen in the future and it came true.
I can only assume theres something after death because he gaves us information about the future which must of been to prove there is something after 
Theres other posabilities but I tend to take it at face value.
I do not personally want to believe in after life. I do not find that comforting. I find it quite scary and it opens up a load of questions about the nature of reality.
Its mad but it happens to loads of people, doctors have opened up a whole new area of research because its so common. People come back from NDEs with information they couldn't make up....
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