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Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience
    #14473223 - 05/18/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Greetings!

Does anyone have experience of using mushrooms during breastfeeding. We want to use frozen milk (pumped in advance) during trip and after. But we are not sure about the excretion period of psylocybine. Some sources say 8 hours, some 1 week.

Thanks


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14473239 - 05/18/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not to sound like an ass...But I would wait until you are done breastfeeding for good. No sense in risking anything with your child....

It is not worth the risk to your child.....


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: PuddyP]
    #14473265 - 05/18/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's water soluble, so I'd think it would be in breast milk. It can be tested for in an drug test for 1-3 days. I don't how long milk glands take to dry up, but giving formula for 3-7 days would probably be fine.

It's not good to do anything while pregnant or breast feeding. I'm sure it's not as bad as alcohol, but still..


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14473269 - 05/18/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Psilocin gets metabolized very quickly in the body. After one day it should be completely gone. After a whole week it's a certainty.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Dawks]
    #14473284 - 05/18/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldn't :S


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: k00laid]
    #14473465 - 05/18/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Um Tripping when you have a newborn is not a good idea at all  I hope you plane on getting a babysitter.  You have a responsibility to take care of your kid and tripping for 4-6hours will leave you in a bad state.


Dont be a dumbass :dumbass:


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14513698 - 05/26/11 04:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks to everyone!
Don't worry we are going to take very serious, and of course we are going to leave baby with a babysitter. By the information I collected I conclude that 7 days is the safe period to continue breastfeeding after shrooms. Anyway we're


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav] * 1
    #14513700 - 05/26/11 04:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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levprav said:
Thanks to everyone!
Don't worry we are going to take very serious, and of course we are going to leave baby with a babysitter. By the information I collected I conclude that 7 days is the safe period to continue breastfeeding after shrooms. Anyway we're



:dumbass:


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: drr]
    #14514116 - 05/26/11 08:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How about you make that switch to formula after your woman consumes mushrooms? I like this idea


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: drr]
    #14514197 - 05/26/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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drr said:
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levprav said:
Thanks to everyone!
Don't worry we are going to take very serious, and of course we are going to leave baby with a babysitter. By the information I collected I conclude that 7 days is the safe period to continue breastfeeding after shrooms. Anyway we're



:dumbass:



i agree.

OP you arent a doctor.
and as far as i know, google and the shroomery are not doctors.

dont take medical advice, or make up your own medical advice, and then take it from here


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: k00laid]
    #14514570 - 05/26/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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k00laid said:
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drr said:
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levprav said:
Thanks to everyone!
Don't worry we are going to take very serious, and of course we are going to leave baby with a babysitter. By the information I collected I conclude that 7 days is the safe period to continue breastfeeding after shrooms. Anyway we're



:dumbass:



i agree.

OP you arent a doctor.
and as far as i know, google and the shroomery are not doctors.

dont take medical advice, or make up your own medical advice, and then take it from here



This may actually be the first thread I've seen where I wished Red Foreman was really here to put his foot in someone's ass!

This is the worst idea ever!  Grow up, be a proper parent and choose your time to trip after your responsibility is over with.  Having a newborn in the house is the wrong time to be considering tripping.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: LanLord]
    #14514651 - 05/26/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

pretty selfish of you to even think about doing this. just wait until your done breastfeeding.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: maug]
    #14602267 - 06/12/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Your breastmilk does refresh itself very often.  The baby gets 1% of what you do.  More from me on this topic when I read the threads.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip] * 1
    #14602284 - 06/12/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty selfish of you to speak to people like that.  There is nothing selfish at all about following the quest Spirit has sent out to you.  Selfish is that lady who spiked her bottled milk with Cocaine.  Selfish is setting your children up with a movie, some caffiene and msg while you ignore them drinking beer and watching the football game every weekend. 
Maybe selfish is something you are dealing with in your life, bro, but that does not at ALL seem to be what this woman is doing.
Have you EVER breastfed?? It is SOOO difficult for 99% of us who do.  Most women give up within a month.  Most of the women left are done within 6 months.  Each day we breastfeed multiplies the opportunities for our children.  THIS is QUEEN of mothers, and you should learn to RESPECT.
Their has never been ONE case of problems with mushrooms in breastmilk.
However, there ARE many good recoomendations I will follow with.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14602295 - 06/12/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Gross.  Have you read those ingredients?  Corn syrup mostly.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14602302 - 06/12/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, it is very quick.  Your boobs will probably dry up in a week, and your patience to with the baby screaming constantly and pulling on your fragile breasts.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14602324 - 06/12/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Man, you Mean guys - I guess I can say assholes since you already slung the word are just Mean.  Its like you haven't heard anything this woman is saying except that she wants to shroom and breastfeeds.  Learn to open your ears, you may learn a lot.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14602334 - 06/12/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Is ANYONE here a MOTHER who has done this but me?????!!!!!
Geez.  Where are the WOMEN here???  They asked for personal experience, not specutlation.  So here it is: 

Do NOT WAIT a week.  your breastmilk will dry up OR the child will never latch on again if still young.
I do one gram doses and it takes 8 to 12 hours to pass.

Cool things about shroomin and breastfeeding:
Its not bad for your child once they are old enough (my children were both over a year old except my pre-natal dose in the first month).  Healthy, smart, funny, happy, beautiful. 
You can tell when it is time to breastfeed again because you haven't been tripping at all for an hour or two.  When breastfeeding then, tho, if your breasts beging to tingle like a trip, it is time to switch boobies until it happens over there, and then get the kid something else to do/ingest.
When your trip is over, take 1-2 TBS of charcoal.  They sell it in herb stores OR you can just take it out of your firepit and grind it up.  Its tasteless and disolves easily in yogurt, etc.  This pulls toxins out of breastmilk and the rest of you.
Mushrooms are MEDICINE.  Never forget this.  BUT a baby needs to develop there brain for a while before exposed to any chances... each child is very different. Mine where smart and big soon.  If your baby is slow to develop, wait until she's catching up.
You do NOT have to pump it out.  That is an outdated myth.  Our bodies naturally replenish the supply.  There have never been negative results reported from feeding children psilisybes NOR from breastfeeding babies during it.  however, for saftey reasons, most doctors recommend 24 to 48 hourse including more extreme views.  Most substances that come through the milk are gone enough by the time the effects where off, with some chemical exceptions.  Heroine and cocain/crack/meth have all been studied in detail.  If you are reading this thinking of them, look it up on the internet it is very different.  Even then, most doctors recommend those mothers still breastfeed (carefully). 

Most important:
Breastfeeding newborn babies want to nurse.  Constantly.  Constantly.  If you are anywhere near, they will not take the bottle, and if they do, there is a fear they may never ever take the boob again, cuz that happens all the time. My first child was sick for days, lethargic even with an ear infection.  Our aniversary came, and my shamanic brain was now nearly 3 years with no psychedelics, and I decided to shroom in the trailer with my husband while the baby slept at night.  I pumped milk for the next 12 hours and took my dose.  Unfortunatly, she would NOT take a bottle.  After enough screaming and sadness I let her drink from me.  Within an hour she was up and playing, laughing and running again.  Cured.    She was cured after nearly a week of painstaking care with barely any results.  I have since noticed that shrooms are very good for such conditions.

It is important to pay attention to your vibe during the trip and know weather to share that or not.

The first time after pregnancy, leave the child with a sitter, feel confident the child is happy and strong, lower the dose - i'm an active 140 pound woman and one gram is plenty for me.  If you must come home early, have a partner hold and entertain the baby, have his favorite foods and drinks and distractions ready.  And if you must breastfeed even then, just remember to only give a little at a time, and try to stop when your breasts tingle.  Take the charcoal as soon as you know you are heading back to the baby or as soon as the trip is over: which ever is sooner.  You can take a lot more charcoal than I reccommended if you want.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: StarLady]
    #14602491 - 06/12/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:murray: I appreciate someone backing up the OP but you shouldn't post 6 times in a row. It's just bad forum etiquette.

I know of mothers who have tripped intermittently while breast feeding and their kids are just as healthy as the others of their age group. Not to mention they've been raised better.

But at the same time, why risk it just in case. Murphy's law and whatnot.  Might as well wait until you wean the child off.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Flowing]
    #14602543 - 06/12/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey starlady, there is a edit button so you dont have to keep posting over and over.

:kingtard:


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Flowing]
    #14602596 - 06/12/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nobody has any certainty about how psilocybin metabolizes in lactating tits or whether it may or may not be present in breast milk and how trippy tit milk might impact your baby's neurological development.  Who the fuck knows, but who the fuck would experiment on their kid?


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: joemolloy]
    #14603201 - 06/12/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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trippy tit milk




:ilold:

In all seriousness I personally would just wait until the baby is weaned off or at the very least just use formula for a week or so afterwards to be safe then switch to breastfeeding...if thats ok medically I have no idea so consult a M.D. if your consider it. Everyone (all you guys esp.) get off your high horse, she had to carry a baby around for 9 months and just went through labor and deserves to celebrate with a nice spiritual journey! Atleast shes not hittin the bottle or takin toxic prescritions (that I know of). Just be responsible OP and get a trusted babysitter while you enjoy.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: joemolloy]
    #14603231 - 06/12/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This is my completely bullshit uninformed opinion, but it seems to me like infants are essentially tripping anyways.  They are in a constant state of high receptivity to emotional stimuli.  Somewhat like baby ducks, and me when I'm tripping, they are in a state of emotional "imprinting."  The infant brain is hardwired to recognize the shape of a smiling face at like 4 weeks, and recognition of specific faces comes soon after that.

I don't imagine that many, if any experiments have been done on the levels of neurotransmitter receptor activation of infants (for obvious reasons...these are hard to measure in general, and would be even more difficult and dangerous when dealing with infants), but I would wager that the infant brain keeps serotonin levels pretty much sky high on a continual basis in order to fuel new neural growth and synaptic connections.  The pruning of this growth into a coherent mind comes later, and this is where, I think, artificially elevated activation of serotonin receptors could really interfere with the development of a coherent personality and logical thought.  But I really can't imagine how psychedelics could do much to interfere with infant neural development.  Considering that psychedelics release neurotrophic growth factor, they might even help (although I doubt there would be any clinical studies probing this irresponsible speculation of mine for a long time to come).  And they might even have trouble elbowing serotonin out of receptor slots in the first place. 

Try and tell me that these two infants are not tripping already:


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Flowing]
    #14603242 - 06/12/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Flowing said:
:murray: I appreciate someone backing up the OP but you shouldn't post 6 times in a row. It's just bad forum etiquette.

I know of mothers who have tripped intermittently while breast feeding and their kids are just as healthy as the others of their age group. Not to mention they've been raised better.

But at the same time, why risk it just in case. Murphy's law and whatnot.  Might as well wait until you wean the child off.




She just had a baby here hormones are all crazy right now. Its not her fault.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: StarLady]
    #14603677 - 06/12/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Is ANYONE here a MOTHER who has done this but me?????!!!!!
Geez.  Where are the WOMEN here???  They asked for personal experience, not specutlation.



Word! I'm a dad, but I appreciate you offering the wisdom of your experience in the face of irrational fear.

The amount of breastfeeding mothers on SSRIs and other psychoactive pharmaceuticals with daily dosage that didn't exist less than a generation ago, which do definitely pass to the infant and for which safety-related data is limited: THAT's scary. Even so, there's no conspicuous evidence of major harm in them, yet. But mushrooms, well, that must surely be bad because drugs are bad mmmkay? Unless a man who's paid to prescribe them says it's OK.

So don't take these follow-up questions as coming down on you. I'm genuinely curious, is all.

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StarLady said: Cool things about shroomin and breastfeeding:
Its not bad for your child once they are old enough (my children were both over a year old except my pre-natal dose in the first month).  Healthy, smart, funny, happy, beautiful.



I'm sure they are. You say it's not bad for them once they are old enough. How do you know what's not old enough? And what's the bad that happens if they're exposed too young? Or is it really that you don't know -- probably nothing bad -- but figure it's just best to play it safe by waiting for a year? Time of most teeth, first steps, etc?

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StarLady said: You can tell when it is time to breastfeed again because you haven't been tripping at all for an hour or two.  When breastfeeding then, tho, if your breasts beging to tingle like a trip, it is time to switch boobies until it happens over there, and then get the kid something else to do/ingest.



You can seriously feel "trippiness" being drawn into/out of your breasts like this, and associate this with psilocybin or metabolites thereof being concentrated in the milk? Did you ever not switch boobs and observe any telltale effects in the kid? Or again, just precautionary guesswork/feeling?

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StarLady said: There have never been negative results reported from feeding children psilisybes NOR from breastfeeding babies during it.  however, for saftey reasons, most doctors recommend 24 to 48 hourse including more extreme views.



I'm surprised that any doctor (in any ass-covering contemporary professional context) would go on record stating that "hallucinogens" are fine for lactating moms as long as 1-2 days pass, given the lack of actual studies. I did find this chart missing psilocybin, but including many nasty substances, where indeed most are at half life before 2 days: http://speciosum.curtin.edu.au/breastfeeding/BFChart_AtoZ.pdf

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StarLady said: I pumped milk for the next 12 hours and took my dose.  Unfortunatly, she would NOT take a bottle.  After enough screaming and sadness I let her drink from me.  Within an hour she was up and playing, laughing and running again.  Cured.    She was cured after nearly a week of painstaking care with barely any results.  I have since noticed that shrooms are very good for such conditions.



Are you saying you think she got a mild dose, or know she did? Or could it be instead that she was just happy to get her boob back, and what with mom giving off such an intense goddess vibe from her big beautiful pupils, that was good medicine in itself?


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14603743 - 06/12/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeah starlady is a dumb ass, but I can't see why eating some mushrooms(that grow from the earth), and even waiting a week or so would be a dumb idea.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14604038 - 06/13/11 01:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's people who are so selfish that they feel the need to ingest psychoactives during time with their young children (Breastfeeding or not) that make me very VERY sad for the kids. I think there is no greater crime than being under the influence around an impressionable child, and then being proud of them seeing you "Fucked Up". Or even worse feeding similar things to your child. I would call shame on Starlady, but I know that wouldn't change anything. Selfish people will remain selfish and life will move on.

It should be an option when they are old enough to decide for themselves.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14605435 - 06/13/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

whole lot of assumptions going on here:

1. psilocybin, even in tiny amounts, is harmful to babies
2. mushrooms are to get "fucked up," and it's fucked up to be "fucked up" on them in any quantity around your kids
3. babies tolerate interruptions in their nursing regimen
4. nursing moms should never, ever ingest anything besides food and maybe "safe drugs" sold at walmart. they should sooner feed their babies corn syrup formula than breast milk that might contain metabolites of, say, mushrooms. otherwise they are selfish criminals, not to mention dumbasses.

these are the kinds of ideas i would expect from non-parents, especially guys, whose mushroom use is understood as a form of indulgent self abuse, probably alongside other substances with greater known dangers. perhaps even as a form of rebellion against one's parents, who would not approve. so the idea of a parent partaking as part of healthy parenting is disgusting. right?


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14605501 - 06/13/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Actually Lather, this is simply my opinion; no real scientific evidence in place. I don't know if Psilocybin is harmful to a child (It most likely isn't), and I know people use mushrooms for more than "To Get Fucked Up". For me though, the idea of a parent letting go of control through substances around their kids just doesn't sit well. When it comes to #4 I think we can both agree that real milk is a better option and in this case I'm not saying to use a substitute, I'm saying to wait until the breastfeeding cycle is done; or they find a surrogate source.

I think stating that a "parent partaking in mushrooms as a part of healthy parenting" is a very....odd (I'd say silly, if the word silly could be used in an un-insulting way) thing to say. Although I can understand the idea of it.

I'll leave this quasi-argument in your hands if you want to follow it up, since I'm fairly certain it isn't going to go anywhere since we're both staunch in our opinions.
(Means I probably won't respond with long-winded essentially useless posts :grin:)


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14605802 - 06/13/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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RourkeAnderson said: I think there is no greater crime than being under the influence around an impressionable child [...]. Or even worse feeding similar things to your child.



I see you're growing ayahuasca materials. Did you know that in ayahuasca religious groups like Santo Daime, aya is drunk throughout pregnancy, in childbirth, through lactation, and that children are welcome in ceremony, sometimes partaking (small amounts)? And that this practice is legal in many places because no harm has ever been demonstrated? I have even heard that some religious groups give ethyl alcohol to women and children, mislabeling it blood as if that were better, in a jewish zombie carpenter cannibalism ritual. Where's CPS when you need 'em, huh?


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14605878 - 06/13/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It's people who are so selfish that they feel the need to ingest psychoactives during time with their young children (Breastfeeding or not) that make me very VERY sad for the kids. I think there is no greater crime than being under the influence around an impressionable child, and then being proud of them seeing you "Fucked Up". Or even worse feeding similar things to your child. I would call shame on Starlady, but I know that wouldn't change anything. Selfish people will remain selfish and life will move on.

It should be an option when they are old enough to decide for themselves.



:whathesaid:

I wouldn't even want to be all fucked up on mushrooms around my adult family and friends.

I know some of you have no problem with that, but I do.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14605883 - 06/13/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I have even heard that some religious groups give ethyl alcohol to women and children, mislabeling it blood as if that were better, in a jewish zombie carpenter cannibalism ritual. Where's CPS when you need 'em, huh?




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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14605893 - 06/13/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I have even heard that some religious groups give ethyl alcohol to women and children, mislabeling it blood as if that were better, in a jewish zombie carpenter cannibalism ritual.



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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14608335 - 06/13/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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whole lot of assumptions going on here:

1. psilocybin, even in tiny amounts, is harmful to babies
2. mushrooms are to get "fucked up," and it's fucked up to be "fucked up" on them in any quantity around your kids
3. babies tolerate interruptions in their nursing regimen
4. nursing moms should never, ever ingest anything besides food and maybe "safe drugs" sold at walmart. they should sooner feed their babies corn syrup formula than breast milk that might contain metabolites of, say, mushrooms. otherwise they are selfish criminals, not to mention dumbasses.

these are the kinds of ideas i would expect from non-parents, especially guys, whose mushroom use is understood as a form of indulgent self abuse, probably alongside other substances with greater known dangers. perhaps even as a form of rebellion against one's parents, who would not approve. so the idea of a parent partaking as part of healthy parenting is disgusting. right?




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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: k00laid]
    #14608428 - 06/13/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Is there some trauma in your past, or that of your friends, relating to parents doing drugs around their children? Why don't you tell us about it.

Does a glass of wine with dinner count? Cigarettes? Doobie after they're asleep? Daily SSRIs?


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    #14608499 - 06/13/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

drugs r bad mmk


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14608511 - 06/13/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This thread makes me lol. I actually can see where the OP is coming from. I think since this Forum is mostly guys there's a bias or sexist opinion circulating with no facts involved. If a woman wants to trip and breastfeed, so be it. At least she's is doing it responsibly and not neglecting her child. Second, I highly doubt psilyocybin is harmful to a baby, I could be wrong. What is all this about how tripping in front of a baby is "fucked-up". It's not like the baby can fucking remember what their parents do while they're being brest-fed. smh


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: KahTahToe]
    #14608526 - 06/13/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wow..

I am a child-free woman mainly because my psychedellic extracurriculars preclude parenthood.  I am the first person to say that I am too selfish to be a parent and too selfless to be a parent, for mostly the same reasons.

I am also an educator with over 10 years of experience in juvenile justice programs, drop out prevention, and special education.  While I 100% agree that mushrooms make one a better person, I also very strongly believe that parenthood should be the only path of self-discovery for those who choose to head down that road until their children are reared and able to make their own decisions.

This is not to criticize anyone's choices, but my experiences with very messed up youth would definitely suggest erring on the side of EXTREME caution.  Kids are sponges are know and understand much more than we think.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14608603 - 06/13/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i hope you are a troll


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Scarab74]
    #14609160 - 06/13/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I am a child-free woman mainly because my psychedellic extracurriculars preclude parenthood.



Maybe parenthood is what has precluded me abusing mushrooms; i.e., taking them too often. I had no drug experience of any kind besides alcohol before becoming a father. It's tough to swing logistically, not unlike trying to arrange for a few secret surgeries a year, when you need not only to manage set and setting for yourself, but also to assure that your child is in responsible hands, not exposed to your own possibly odd or alarming behavior, all while keeping your spouse happy.

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Scarab74 said: I am also an educator with over 10 years of experience in juvenile justice programs, drop out prevention, and special education.  While I 100% agree that mushrooms make one a better person, I also very strongly believe that parenthood should be the only path of self-discovery for those who choose to head down that road until their children are reared and able to make their own decisions.



I respect that your experience with troubled kids of parents who abuse drugs has colored your beliefs this way. I appreciate the risks, and manage them carefully. I know that mushrooms, as you say, have helped me become a better person. And that means also a better father. I'm more emotionally available to my child the 99% of the time I'm not tending "selfishly" to my needs. I'm more easily able to enter his imaginative world in play. I'm more cheerful, energetic, and yes loving than I could be before. I no longer drink. Mushrooms have helped me heal, rebalance from the 15 or so years of busting my ass/burying my soul working to ground our finances securely for parenthood. That's why my wife supports my "habit."


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14609275 - 06/13/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The way I see it; do what you want to do. It all comes down to motive. If you are indeed legitimately using the mushrooms for a purpose such as a change in perspective or to reflect then I say go for it as long as you take precautions such as waiting to feed the baby the breast milk for a period of time.

On the other hand if you are simply using them to trip for fun on top of various other drugs then it starts to become selfish. The question that I have out of pure curiousity is why? Why would you need to trip so bad that you couldn't wait a little while?


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: levprav]
    #14609808 - 06/14/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What would be way more beneficial than basically feeding your baby psilocybin is to be on low doses of psilocybin so you're more on the baby's level...

I believe responsible parents responsibly "buzzed" on low doses of shroomies is a fantastic thing to do as a (male) parent, especially the way things are now... so easy to fall into negativity, not paying attention to details, getting a bad attitude when you're inconvenienced. 

I give that the thumbs up, but if you're giving your baby healthy milk, that's the best you can do. Once he/she can eat, making your own baby food out of organic foods in a blender is the best you can do. Once this little being starts to get a grasp on the learning process.... very low doses for the father, you will be a better parent for it. I know a male who spent a crucial phase of their child's development on lsd for two months straight.  Kid is fucking tops and drops jaws.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: MrPeanutButta]
    #14609826 - 06/14/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Don't do it. If you must, or feel drawn to do so, give the baby formula for 1-4 weeks (4 being the safest but pump your breats in that one week to make sure the milk is being taken out of your milk glands).

As for the person saying kids are always tripping so it's ok, I would disregard that post. This isn't just about psychology but about mental growth and maturation. The chemicals can have a major impact on the brain and cause future problems.

Either don't do it because of the love and care you have for the child (which would be 1-3 years from now) or do it but please do it safely.

Don't bring innocent children in the way of your choices :-(


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: StarLady]
    #22716854 - 12/30/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thank-you, I am considering this after breastfeeding for 18 months now, not stopping soon.  Thanks so much for the rational defence of this mother who is like me, I needed to read something that didn't say I was a bad mom for even considering this, wow, some people,  likely the same people who would recommend I vaccinate but automatically assume this cannot be done responsibly.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: BohemianLotus]
    #22717688 - 12/30/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

So many people seem to assume the OP wants to trip around her kid when it has been stated at least a few times a baby sitter will be involved.

That and a solid break to allow it out of her system leaves no real issues :shrug:

So many parents do worse to their children regularly that getting offended by this is ridiculous...

The shitty food schools feed kids almost certainly makes a bigger impact on a child's development then this...


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: musiclover420]
    #24303370 - 05/07/17 09:28 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I really did not expect so much judgement from this forum. Let's not forget how old this medicine is and the tribes who consumed this (Including children) for spiritual guidance.

Let's not forget about how doctors used Psilocybin & LSD to CURE young children with mental disorders such as schizophrenia, Depression, Bi-polar disorder etc.

I know this post isn't about giving it directly to your children and those aren't her intentions but to sh*t on her for wanting to go on a little spiritual adventure, judging her to be a bad or irresponsible parent!?

I say plan it out, Store enough breast milk for a 5 days tops since it can be detected in your system via urine for that long. You can probably get back to breast feeding sooner than 5 days but I'd say 5 just to be on the safe side. Take that adventure but you need to mentally prepare yourself first since you might have all these thoughts running through your mind and it could make it for an unpleasant trip.

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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Guevara1928]
    #24304178 - 05/08/17 08:50 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Cool, let's dose 10g, go back in time and let them know it's cool! :tongue:

OP - trip report from 6 years ago? :smile:


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    #24304179 - 05/08/17 08:51 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

The kid in question has probably graduated from college by now.  Lol.


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: CrackingTheCode]
    #24304339 - 05/08/17 10:06 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Ha, That comment is for any Mom curious about mushroom consumption and breast feeding. I'm pretty sure she's not the only Mom questioning this..

Lol @AtomHeart


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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: Guevara1928]
    #24309111 - 05/10/17 08:47 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I'm a mother breast feeding a 7 week old baby, I hail from WONDERFUL TROPICAL SOUTH TEXAS, and mushroom season is amongst us. I've searched this forum curious about the experience of breast feeding and shrooming at the same time because I love my child. This women loves her child too and y'all are fucked up for calling her a bad mom.. I haven't breastfed after taking mushrooms so I can't offer any experience but if I was going to do it, I would wait until I was done breast feeding. Simply because the unknowns are too much for me to risk. With that said, I do smoke weed and breast feed. My children are happy and smart. Developing right on schedule. So idk... I guess it's what ever your conscience will allow you to do. I have heard that 1% of what you take gets into your breast milk..... That's not very much! Curiously, I've tested my child's urine with a thc strip I got from the dollar store my baby tested negative, I of course tested positive. So idk man I don't think it will affect your milk supply. But weed and shrooms are different. You smoke weed, you eat mushrooms. This is the debate I've had with myself that won't let me shroom and breast feed at the same time.
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Re: Mushrooms usage during breastfeeding period: personal experience [Re: TheLizardQueen]
    #24310075 - 05/10/17 03:12 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I agree it's pretty sad how close minded and judgemental this forum can be.

It's not like anyone was advocating giving drugs to kids.

In fact it sounds like it was well thought out and probably more responsible then many people without kids...

With all the hippy parents around here kids eating drugs isn't too uncommon.

I knew some people that had to get their child's stomach pumped because she found their mushroom chocolates... At least they were smart enough to bring her to the ER though.


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    #24345931 - 05/24/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I have a 4 month old (exclusively breastfed) and am also considering shrooming. But I am in an intense battle with myself internally over this topic and am trying to find FACTS. I just can't seem to find any factual data and unfortunately there was never an after trip report.


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