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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: smaerd]
    #14465978 - 05/17/11 01:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Improve lives, dose your friends on the good stuff!




And then hope to god they don't die. :crazy:


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: muistrue]
    #14466023 - 05/17/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The good stuff ain't gonna kill em.

Key is, make sure you got the good stuff!


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: LightShedder]
    #14466050 - 05/17/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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LightShedder said:
The good stuff ain't gonna kill em.

Key is, make sure you got the good stuff!




The dude thought he had 2C-E which is one of Shulgins "magical half dozen" so that means it's in the upper echelon of the good stuff so yeah you're right making sure must be the key.


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: muistrue]
    #14466114 - 05/17/11 02:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

@FracralDust: I wasn't being a dick intentionally.. And yes it can be... But so can DOB and DOI. (DOI being REALLY easy to get, as it took me like .0002 nano seconds  to find thanks to g(a)(y)gle.) They would do about the same thing to the kids. I wonder just how "accidental" it is, as the Chinese clearly don't seem to care...

Witch reminds me an old friend of mine almost died from a over dose of DOB at a Rave... He still wishes he could find it again so he could try it with a lil' common sense. :wink:

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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Slaithenn]
    #14466186 - 05/17/11 03:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just don't understand how the hell there's even enough bromo-dragonFLY around to mislabel as 2C-E in the first place?

It doesn't seem like there's much of a market for it.  I'm not sure about the desire, but I certainly don't have the free time to trip for 3 days straight.

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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14466213 - 05/17/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This shit is literraly fucked up : http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=83478 =(


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Slaithenn]
    #14466259 - 05/17/11 04:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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@Drr: You're statement, sir, sounds retarded... It's extremely unfortunate for every soul who almost, and did, over dosed on this (and any other substance) because they in fact received the wrong chemical entirely. But, to say that the wrong chemical is garbage because it can and probably will kill you if you exceed that substance's LD-50 is asinine. According to your statement every chemical that can get you high and has a lethal dose is garbage.




Your argument is stupid. Everything has an LD-50. But the line between tripping balls and becoming a cripple or a corpse is extremely thin with BDF. It's nothing that can really be dosed safely. You see, with things like LSD it's really not a big deal whether you get 50µg blotter or 100µg blotter. You might just trip a lot more balls when you eat a couple of them, that's all. With BDF it can be fatal. Would you trust anyone selling you Bromo-DragonFLY? Anyone?

Anyone who defends or even promotes BDF is an idiot, period. It's almost impossible to dose it safely (unless you synthed it yourself, know exactly how pure it is and how many µg you have). And those who sell it should be locked up. There are very few substances I would say this about, because I dearly love to get high, but there are so many psychedelics that are completely safe and one can see what happens if someone takes this shit thinking it's LSD. Two tabs. Two fucking tabs was all it took to nearly kill a person and to cause necrosis and long term ill effects on his health. What if he was someone who likes to dose really high and had taken 5 tabs all at once. With LSD he would have just tripped huge bear balls, but BFD would have put him in a morgue.
Why do some people on these boards worship drugs so much that they even defend this totally evil and uncontrollable substance?


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14466272 - 05/17/11 04:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You see, with things like LSD it's really not a big deal whether you get 50µg blotter or 100µg blotter. You might just trip a lot more balls when you eat a couple of them, that's all. With BDF it can be fatal. Would you trust anyone selling you Bromo-DragonFLY? Anyone?




I'd probably never even be able to enjoy a bromo-dragonFLY trip for the reasons you just stated.

I'd be shitting my pants the whole time in fear of it killing me.

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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14466310 - 05/17/11 05:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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@Drr: You're statement, sir, sounds retarded... It's extremely unfortunate for every soul who almost, and did, over dosed on this (and any other substance) because they in fact received the wrong chemical entirely. But, to say that the wrong chemical is garbage because it can and probably will kill you if you exceed that substance's LD-50 is asinine. According to your statement every chemical that can get you high and has a lethal dose is garbage.




Your argument is stupid. Everything has an LD-50. But the line between tripping balls and becoming a cripple or a corpse is extremely thin with BDF. It's nothing that can really be dosed safely. You see, with things like LSD it's really not a big deal whether you get 50µg blotter or 100µg blotter. You might just trip a lot more balls when you eat a couple of them, that's all. With BDF it can be fatal. Would you trust anyone selling you Bromo-DragonFLY? Anyone?

Anyone who defends or even promotes BDF is an idiot, period. It's almost impossible to dose it safely (unless you synthed it yourself, know exactly how pure it is and how many µg you have). And those who sell it should be locked up. There are very few substances I would say this about, because I dearly love to get high, but there are so many psychedelics that are completely safe and one can see what happens if someone takes this shit thinking it's LSD. Two tabs. Two fucking tabs was all it took to nearly kill a person and to cause necrosis and long term ill effects on his health. What if he was someone who likes to dose really high and had taken 5 tabs all at once. With LSD he would have just tripped huge bear balls, but BFD would have put him in a morgue.
Why do some people on these boards worship drugs so much that they even defend this totally evil and uncontrollable substance?




You actually mirror my most of my own opinion... What you just described is what happened to my friend for the most part but with DOB.

However, I feel that the problem isn't BROMO it's the lack of reliable source that can be held accountable. I  blame the Chinese. What if it was arsenic? How bout some 2c-b laced with small pox? Does it matter that they like to mix up BROMO particularly? How many other chemical substance could just as easily be put in it's place instead, both end products, intermediary products,  base chemicals, reagents, etc.

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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14466314 - 05/17/11 05:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

These incidents of mislabeling suck, but seem to be an inherant risk with RC's.  I have had my bad experiences with some. 

Here are some facts about RC's;

1) They all look pretty damn similiar, being powders and all

2) There are 100's of RC's out there that could be mixed up.

3) They are mass produced in China under who knows what kinda regulation.

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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: demon66]
    #14466321 - 05/17/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, who knows how well the Chineese synthesize these chems and keep track of which batch is what chem, etc.    I doubt China has any interest in the chemicals they are producing other than gettting paid for them.

Any one ever heard of any Psychedelic researchers or news come out of China.  I haven't, manufacturing the chems alone doesn't count as psychedelic interest, as they probablly will synthesize ANY chem u payed them to.

Not to mention, they do know how to do a proper synthesis, right?

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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: demon66]
    #14466387 - 05/17/11 05:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I guess it's pretty much the same with every drug. There are reports about people going blind or dying from illegally and poorly distilled alcohol from Russia and Turkey all the time. Everywhere where quick money lurks there will be people not giving a fuck. It's all about the green. But especially with drugs potentially as dangerous as Bromo-DragonFLY I'd be most wary.
If I got offered BDF for sale, even at a spectacular price, I would never buy and turn around and sell it to anyone else. There are so many safe drugs out there that you'd have to consume an elephants weight of to die, why take the risk. Of course if you think you are buying 2C-E and you are really buying Bromo you are fucked. That's why I don't trust the chinks as a source.
Anyone still remember how some baby milk powder manufacturer in China mixed some chemicals into his product to fake a higher protein content about two years ago, poisoning about 300,000 babies, about a dozen of whom died? Well, that's chinese communist-capitalism for you. Fuck the chinks.


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14467604 - 05/17/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i've always had good luck and thoroughly research my vendors before i purchase, but at the same time i don't mess with anything that has such a steep dose response curve like do-x and bromo-dfly. from my experience, 2ci, 2ce and the couple of 4-aco-xxx's that i've tried seem to be pretty safe providing there isn't any innate allergy to the compound to begin with.

the worst experience i've had so far with rc's was back in 04 when i underdosed a compound (can't recall for the life of me - it belonged to a friend of mine so i hadn't purchased it myself) and got gut rot with slight tracers for 12 hours. lol.

i'm not trying to minimize the risk with ordering and using rc's, but i think some of the opposition in this thread is a bit blown out of proportion. further, as i said, i don't really think buying anything on the street is intrinsically safer.


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14467762 - 05/17/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The one time I took Bromo-Dragonfly it was misrepresented and sold to me as LSD. I took one tab of that shit thinking I was going to have a nice light trip and it ended up being a nightmare rollercoaster through hell. FUCK BDF


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Shroomism]
    #14470158 - 05/17/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This case is all wrong.

There are several articles about this. Some say they got it from a bulk supplier in china, some say chemicology.net..

some say they paid 12bucks a gram... some say 120....chemicology listed it for either 160 or 180, I forget....

Some papers say it was 2c-b-fly...some say 2c-e-fly...some say 2c-e...

Fuck this. Don't get involved in such a vague story. Official press release or gtfo for this one in particular.


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Felinor]
    #14471249 - 05/18/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

See people, a cube is a cube, a sc-i is ammonia and some other shit with something else and some other shit mixed in by some guy in a basement. shrooms dont lie, pills do


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: RareEnergy]
    #14471298 - 05/18/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

wait so it was bromodragonfly again???wtfff why are people makin this shit and being so irresponsible


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #14471658 - 05/18/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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wtfff why are people makin this shit and being so irresponsible



Their not being irrisponsible, they just made a mistake.  People make mistakes, it's calle human error.  The irresponsible part of this equation is the person ingesting the drug... No one can take a drug which says on the bag "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" and then hold ANYONE ELSE responsible or blame anyone else for the mistake.


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #14471695 - 05/18/11 03:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

goddamn...

it baffles me how people can be intelligent enough to synthesize drugs (granted 2c-x is pretty easy) but fuck this shit up that bad, I mean they didn't even check each batch or have a good system of labeling or anything? wtf?! human lives at stake!

so messed up

but thanks for the warning dw!


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Re: WARNING! Lethal Mislabeled batch of 2C-I and 2C-E Circulating! [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #14471901 - 05/18/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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wtfff why are people makin this shit and being so irresponsible



Their not being irrisponsible, they just made a mistake.  People make mistakes, it's calle human error.  The irresponsible part of this equation is the person ingesting the drug... No one can take a drug which says on the bag "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" and then hold ANYONE ELSE responsible or blame anyone else for the mistake.



Sorry to say, but that's just plain BULLSHIT! With something potentially as dangerous as BDF, you are not supposed to make a mistake, as the difference between µg and mg can be a difference between life and death. I think when you are in your lab between all these glass tubes and cylinders you KNOW what you are manufacturing. There is no "wait a minute, what was it that I just made? Ermmmm, let's see... 2C-B, 2C-E, Bromo-DragonFLY... aww, WTF, I'll just slap a '2C-I" label on it and sell it through Alibaba". Get real, dude.


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