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Invisiblelinkamathingy
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fighting
    #14471604 - 05/18/11 03:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

watching fight videos. people don't know what they're doing. here's some tips.

to win: bring in chew up spit out.

victimize by switching weapons(knees, punches, elbows, etc.) and zones(high, middle, low) to overload and shortcircuit them.

i see lots of fights where people back up and wait for the other to engage again. this is dumb. once the person is close enough to grab, grab them so you can fuck them up with 3 knees anywhere, alternating knees, and then either step on their foot and push them back to break their ankle, or schluck them out by pushing the chin one way and using their resistance to bring the head the opposite and unnatural way. use whichever you feel necessary to come out alive.

have fun being safe.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471617 - 05/18/11 03:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey man I'm not trying to disrespect you but I have not been diggin your post content tonight. Why bring up this topic? Most people don't like fighting at all.


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Invisiblekoraks
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Re: fighting [Re: Charliem]
    #14471620 - 05/18/11 03:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Fighting is a waste of energy.


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Re: fighting [Re: koraks]
    #14471628 - 05/18/11 03:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i believe in martial arts
its not wasted energy
ancient art
ancient sport


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471630 - 05/18/11 03:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i want to fight sunshine in tai chi

he says you have to stand for 6 months


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Invisiblelinkamathingy
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Re: fighting [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14471632 - 05/18/11 03:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

fighting is a necessary tool in this day and age. it's brutal but so is the world.

i brought it up becaues i see so many fight videos where my knowledge would've helped someone come out on top faster and safer


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471634 - 05/18/11 03:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

linkamathingy said:
fighting is a necessary tool in this day and age. it's brutal but so is the world.

i brought it up becaues i see so many fight videos where my knowledge would've helped someone come out on top faster and safer




Why don't you take it a step further and give advice on how to avoid fights altogether? That is a real talent.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy] * 1
    #14471637 - 05/18/11 03:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Have you ever even been in a fight?

"step on their foot and push them back"

Lol.


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Re: fighting [Re: Charliem]
    #14471638 - 05/18/11 03:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

step further?

even a buddhist monk in a deep trance does not step down from a brawl

man up


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Re: fighting [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14471640 - 05/18/11 03:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it is very hard to avoid violence, if it's even possible. i'd rather be prepared for it than not. i don't seek it if that's what you mean
Quote:

AlmostAsCoolAs said:
Have you ever even been in a fight?

"step on their foot and push them back"

Lol.




obviously this is after grabbing them and victimizing


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Re: fighting [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14471642 - 05/18/11 03:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

AntiEverything said:
step further?

even a buddhist monk in a deep trance does not step down from a brawl

man up




I'm not talking about pussying out of a fight that has arisen, I'm talking about avoiding any confrontation in the first place.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471645 - 05/18/11 03:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'll kick yer ass with mind bullets


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Re: fighting [Re: Charliem]
    #14471647 - 05/18/11 03:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Charliem said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:
fighting is a necessary tool in this day and age. it's brutal but so is the world.

i brought it up becaues i see so many fight videos where my knowledge would've helped someone come out on top faster and safer




Why don't you take it a step further and give advice on how to avoid fights altogether? That is a real talent.





Why are you trying to dictate this guy's topics ?

Although you may not agreed with his views on most things, he still has as much right to discuss whatever he feels like discussing. If it makes you uncomfortable then don't click his threads.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471652 - 05/18/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

linkamathingy said:
it is very hard to avoid violence, if it's even possible.



I've seemed to manage pretty well these past 30 years or so :shrug: No disrespect though; if you think it's necessary, go ahead. There's probably plenty of people who agree with you and who are willing to join in a session of mutual mutilation. Don't expect me to join in though. Not my cup of tea.


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Re: fighting [Re: TYL3R]
    #14471657 - 05/18/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

TYL3R said:
Quote:

Charliem said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:
fighting is a necessary tool in this day and age. it's brutal but so is the world.

i brought it up becaues i see so many fight videos where my knowledge would've helped someone come out on top faster and safer




Why don't you take it a step further and give advice on how to avoid fights altogether? That is a real talent.





Why are you trying to dictate this guy's topics ?

Although you may not agreed with his views on most things, he still has as much right to discuss whatever he feels like discussing. If it makes you uncomfortable then don't click his threads.




What do you mean "trying to dictate this guy's topics"? As far as I'm concerned anything is open for discussion. I have the right to disagree with his views, I'm trying to be fairly civil.


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Re: fighting [Re: koraks]
    #14471660 - 05/18/11 03:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

koraks said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:
it is very hard to avoid violence, if it's even possible.



I've seemed to manage pretty well these past 30 years or so :shrug: No disrespect though; if you think it's necessary, go ahead. There's probably plenty of people who agree with you and who are willing to join in a session of mutual mutilation. Don't expect me to join in though. Not my cup of tea.






you are white and have lived in affluence your entire life


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InvisibleTYL3R
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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471661 - 05/18/11 03:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I like to box.

Wouldn't have much use for those techniques amongst friends in a backyard, boxing to five points or the first knockdown.


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Re: fighting [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14471700 - 05/18/11 03:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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AntiEverything said:
you are white and have lived in affluence your entire life



You're right about the 'white' thing. Not so much about the affluence thing though.


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Re: fighting [Re: Charliem]
    #14471711 - 05/18/11 04:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Charliem said:
Hey man I'm not trying to disrespect you but I have not been diggin your post content tonight. Why bring up this topic? Most people don't like fighting at all.



:ilold:


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Invisiblelinkamathingy
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Re: fighting [Re: Austinh111]
    #14471725 - 05/18/11 04:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i don't want to fuck people up. i just want to live through other's trying to fuck me up. big difference. i don't actually like thinking about what would happen should someone try to hurt me.

heres what i study, amongst other things.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4431278/F.I.G.H.T._Haganah_-_Custom_DVD


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471741 - 05/18/11 04:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hopefully they wouldn't get blood on your Affliction t-shirt.  I blame the UFC for the continued rise of the meatheads.


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Invisiblelinkamathingy
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Re: fighting [Re: badchad]
    #14471754 - 05/18/11 04:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

badchad said:
Hopefully they wouldn't get blood on your Affliction t-shirt.  I blame the UFC for the continued rise of the meatheads.




meatheads? there will always be people who fight for fun. it's another high, like running or meditation.

there will also always be violence and those who wish it wasn't a violent world.


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Re: fighting [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14471861 - 05/18/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

AlmostAsCoolAs said:
Have you ever even been in a fight?

"step on their foot and push them back"

Lol.





dont laugh, my brother did that to someone 3 times, each time the guy got up
and ran his mouth some more, threatening to kick my brother's ass, my bro
finally got tired of humiliating the guy and punched him

there was no broken ankle


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14471864 - 05/18/11 06:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

he let up on the foot as the guy fell. you have to step and hold.

also stomping the ankle once they fall, if not already broken so they can't get back up and help whoever else you have to fight once you're done with that guy


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471920 - 05/18/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

linkamathingy said:
he let up on the foot as the guy fell.





no, he didnt. ankles, knees, hip's, waist, wrists, elbows, shoulders... all
jointed, all bend. I'm sure that he could have sprained the ankle had the guy
not bent his knees while going down thus landing on his ass but the ankle
joint it pretty flexible and it's very unlikely they'll break an ankle with
the toe step and push or even stomping on it after they're down


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14471930 - 05/18/11 06:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its an instep step and violent push backwards. it will break if you have victimized them first.

i guess the ankle will break on a stomp only when they're facing downward and you choose the foot in the position to break when you do it.

i don't go around trying this out. but the theory is tested on the streets of israel and with the IDF.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471950 - 05/18/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

linkamathingy said:
its an instep step and violent push backwards. it will break if you have victimized them first.

i guess the ankle will break on a stomp only when they're facing downward and you choose the foot in the position to break when you do it.

i don't go around trying this out. but the theory is tested on the streets of israel and with the IDF.



haha youre funny.


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Re: fighting [Re: Olympus Mons]
    #14471952 - 05/18/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you should hear the guy i learned this stuff from. hilariously brutal

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4431278/F.I.G.H.T._Haganah_-_Custom_DVD


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471956 - 05/18/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You all come from a long line of warriors. If you spend some of your time expended your energy through physical pursuits such as martial arts you will be happier.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14471959 - 05/18/11 07:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

linkamathingy said:
its an instep step and violent push backwards. it will break if you have victimized them first.





victimized... you mean ass raped them for a month while they were chained to
a radiator, that's more of a spirit breaker than anything


Quote:

i don't go around trying this out. but the theory is tested on the streets of israel and with the IDF.




I've fought all my life, I was trained by the army, I learned earned kung fu
and I've learned karate one important thing I have learned, theory doesnt
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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14471969 - 05/18/11 07:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i lived on a mountain and trained with a panda for 15 years, upon his death i fought with the mountain tiger clan for an additional five. My victory signified that it was now time to make the journey over many moons to the new world,and seek vengeance on those who wronged my master and clan.  the most important thing ive learned to date is that breaking ones spirit first, in theory, makes breaking physical bones as easy as breaking wind. theoretically.


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Re: fighting [Re: Olympus Mons]
    #14471985 - 05/18/11 07:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

everyone on the shroomery are trained cage fighters it seems.


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Re: fighting [Re: nimrod]
    #14471992 - 05/18/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

dude you can be anything you want on the internet.


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Re: fighting [Re: HuHEN]
    #14472160 - 05/18/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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HuHEN said:
You all come from a long line of warriors. If you spend some of your time expended your energy through physical pursuits such as martial arts you will be happier.




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Re: fighting [Re: TYL3R]
    #14472186 - 05/18/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

fighting me lol


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472188 - 05/18/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you're not as convincing as the method i learned. one person's lifetime of fighting isn't worth as much as the lives saved with this system. thanks for the info though.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472323 - 05/18/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

linkamathingy said:
you're not as convincing as the method i learned. one person's lifetime of fighting isn't worth as much as the lives saved with this system.





I didnt learn from a book, I didnt learn theory, I learned that if
the confrontation is unavoidable your life is at stake and it's best
to take a proactive role in saving your own life

that doesnt involve victimizing them first, what ever the fuck that means


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472338 - 05/18/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

mary mary quite contrary, without understanding what you attempt to negate. victimization is short circuiting until overload, through mixing weapons, zones and in the proper ranges. very effective at turning the tables on someone whose intent was victimizing you.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472340 - 05/18/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Haganah fucking sucks.

Israeli martial arts?
Yeah that's a real thing.
:rolleyes:


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472342 - 05/18/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472352 - 05/18/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

naysayers all of you. open yo mind, don't knock it til you try it.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14472370 - 05/18/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Heffy said:
Haganah fucking sucks.

Israeli martial arts?
Yeah that's a real thing.
:rolleyes:





dide... you sodomize victimize them first, then you step on their toes


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472374 - 05/18/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Krav Maga is a bullshit martial art.

Every person I've fought with who trained Krav was a half baked fighter with delusional overconfidence.

Haganah is a bullshit knockoff of Krav that even the Krav guys say is bullshit. See?


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14472381 - 05/18/11 10:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

tell that to fedor or alexander emelianenko


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14472397 - 05/18/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The fuck are you talking about.

Are you confusing Krav with Systema?

Frankly I'm quite sure that Fedor does neither, he is a black belt in Judo and a grandmaster in Sambo.


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472413 - 05/18/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Heffy said:
Haganah fucking sucks.

Israeli martial arts?
Yeah that's a real thing.
:rolleyes:





dide... you sodomize victimize them first, then you step on their toes




you can't even keep up the facade of not trolling anymore. laaaaaaaaame.

i've been debating going into MMA to make some money with what i know because the videos i see show knees are allowed, which i thought was unsporting.

the FIGHT system incorporates haganah, krav maga, ju jitsu, and IDF military tactics.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14472420 - 05/18/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Do it! You will lose and then take up a real martial art.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14472424 - 05/18/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

naysayer yet again. people are afraid of others success, makes them look lazy.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14472425 - 05/18/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

maybe i must be retarded then. :durrhurr:

I could have sworn that it was fedor who created krav maga, maybe i'm confused with sambo :shrug:


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472429 - 05/18/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)


fighting, i'm lovin' it!


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472440 - 05/18/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's my opinion that a mix of brazillian jiu jitsu and muay thai makes a well rounded figher.


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Re: fighting [Re: Beanhead]
    #14472446 - 05/18/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

learn this system and you're less likely to end up like that unprepared guy. i'm not advocating street violence for fun.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14472457 - 05/18/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No troll, posts have content.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Pretty much all forms of Krav are badly taught Jiu Jitsu and Thai Boxing.
It is usually taught by people who are not skilled enough to teach Jiu Jitsu or Thai Boxing, at a real JJ or MT school.

I can trace Thai boxing back to before the 1600's.
I can trace Jiu Jitsu back to before the 1400's.

The Israelis claim to have come out with their "uniquely Israeli" martial art in the last 60 years. Except all the techniques are right out of Thai Boxing or Jiu Jitsu.

Horseshit.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472462 - 05/18/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
watching fight videos. people don't know what they're doing. here's some tips.

to win: bring in chew up spit out.

victimize by switching weapons(knees, punches, elbows, etc.) and zones(high, middle, low) to overload and shortcircuit them.

i see lots of fights where people back up and wait for the other to engage again. this is dumb. once the person is close enough to grab, grab them so you can fuck them up with 3 knees anywhere, alternating knees, and then either step on their foot and push them back to break their ankle, or schluck them out by pushing the chin one way and using their resistance to bring the head the opposite and unnatural way. use whichever you feel necessary to come out alive.

have fun being safe.




:lolsy:

You can't plan a fight out like that.

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Re: fighting [Re: NewWavePeace]
    #14472468 - 05/18/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

for those of you who enjoy watching fights, imagine stepping in the ring with this guy (mute the shitty music):



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    #14472482 - 05/18/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would grab his long perdy hair and fuck his world up.

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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472490 - 05/18/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i've been debating going into MMA to make some money with what i know because the videos i see show knees are allowed, which i thought was unsporting.




I and my brother's business partner were training him to go into MMA, the
partner has been featured in Karate Magazine a few times, I've mixed it up
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the man lives near me, again with several articles in martial arts mags holds
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Re: fighting [Re: NewWavePeace]
    #14472498 - 05/18/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
watching fight videos. people don't know what they're doing. here's some tips.

to win: bring in chew up spit out.

victimize by switching weapons(knees, punches, elbows, etc.) and zones(high, middle, low) to overload and shortcircuit them.

i see lots of fights where people back up and wait for the other to engage again. this is dumb. once the person is close enough to grab, grab them so you can fuck them up with 3 knees anywhere, alternating knees, and then either step on their foot and push them back to break their ankle, or schluck them out by pushing the chin one way and using their resistance to bring the head the opposite and unnatural way. use whichever you feel necessary to come out alive.

have fun being safe.




:lolsy:

You can't plan a fight out like that.

When fighting, you have to go with your basic survival instincts.




you must practice until your basic survival instincts are preprgrammed


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472500 - 05/18/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
i've been debating going into MMA to make some money with what i know because the videos i see show knees are allowed, which i thought was unsporting.




I and my brother's business partner were training him to go into MMA, the
partner has been featured in Karate Magazine a few times, I've mixed it up
with another fellow that teaches Combat Sambo in addition to other things,
the man lives near me, again with several articles in martial arts mags holds
several national championship titles

as mentioned I spent 8 years in the army with the 5th SFG, in middle
school I started with karate, after the army I studied kung fu and
throughout my life I've fought so what I say, I say from experience,
find yourself a teacher, not a video




you're just trolling to feel right. seriously. thanks for the input though


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472501 - 05/18/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14472506 - 05/18/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
maybe i must be retarded then. :durrhurr:

I could have sworn that it was fedor who created krav maga, maybe i'm confused with sambo :shrug:





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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472513 - 05/18/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i honestly thought i heard that he created his own style of martial arts, and that it was krav maga or sambo or something. i guess i must have gotten myself confused somewhere along the way. eitherway fedor is a top fighter!


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472532 - 05/18/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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linkamathingy said:
i've been debating going into MMA to make some money with what i know because the videos i see show knees are allowed, which i thought was unsporting.




I and my brother's business partner were training him to go into MMA, the
partner has been featured in Karate Magazine a few times, I've mixed it up
with another fellow that teaches Combat Sambo in addition to other things,
the man lives near me, again with several articles in martial arts mags holds
several national championship titles

as mentioned I spent 8 years in the army with the 5th SFG, in middle
school I started with karate, after the army I studied kung fu and
throughout my life I've fought so what I say, I say from experience,
find yourself a teacher, not a video




you're just trolling to feel right. seriously. thanks for the input though





seems like that's what you're doing, you've had several people tell you to
seek real instruction if you want to learn because videos arent going to
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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14472535 - 05/18/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
for those of you who enjoy watching fights, imagine stepping in the ring with this guy (mute the shitty music):







Lol I wouldn't want to step in the ring with that guy, but to my untrained eye I'd say those guys need to get inside of those leg kicks, you can't hang back in kick range with a dude like that!


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Re: fighting [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14472544 - 05/18/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
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DosileFlynn said:
for those of you who enjoy watching fights, imagine stepping in the ring with this guy (mute the shitty music):







Lol I wouldn't want to step in the ring with that guy, but to my untrained eye I'd say those guys need to get inside of those leg kicks, you can't hang back in kick range with a dude like that!





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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472563 - 05/18/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i think the problem that alot of fighters have with Serkan Yilmaz is that he is abnormally tall for his weight class, and he has an exceedingly long reach with both his hands and legs.


so people have to eat a shot as they step into his range, and as you can see , his shots hurt. alot. :grin:


also thats from k-1 kick boxing matches , not MMA, so you can't take the opponent down. it's a striking match.


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472566 - 05/18/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

with my record i gotta back down unless it's me or mine's life on the line. that being said i'm very interested in getting into fighting lessons, for the workouts above anything else. i tend to get along with everyone in person (i'm very polite, easy going) but it would be nice to have some extra tools to defend myself or my family if the need should ever arise.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14472606 - 05/18/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i think the problem that alot of fighters have with Serkan Yilmaz is that he is abnormally tall for his weight class, and he has an exceedingly long reach with both his hands and legs.


so people have to eat a shot as they step into his range, and as you can see , his shots hurt. alot. :grin:





that long reach can be a disadvantage in a fight against someone that isnt
playing kick boxer, against a grappler he could get fucked pretty hard, I'd
take that short shot and pin that leg to his chest and dive him with my weight

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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472637 - 05/18/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i agree, they are different situations but for sure, a devout wrestler/grappler will have the advantage against a striker/kickboxer.





and :rofldrunk: you could twist his neck around too and give him some whiplash. TKO by whiplash. thats the way to do it.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14472651 - 05/18/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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for those of you who enjoy watching fights, imagine stepping in the ring with this guy (mute the shitty music):





That guy is one seriously fuckin hard cunt!!! And it was an excellent choice of music to play over it!! lol


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14472653 - 05/18/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14472700 - 05/18/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:
i've been debating going into MMA to make some money with what i know because the videos i see show knees are allowed, which i thought was unsporting.




I and my brother's business partner were training him to go into MMA, the
partner has been featured in Karate Magazine a few times, I've mixed it up
with another fellow that teaches Combat Sambo in addition to other things,
the man lives near me, again with several articles in martial arts mags holds
several national championship titles

as mentioned I spent 8 years in the army with the 5th SFG, in middle
school I started with karate, after the army I studied kung fu and
throughout my life I've fought so what I say, I say from experience,
find yourself a teacher, not a video




you're just trolling to feel right. seriously. thanks for the input though





seems like that's what you're doing, you've had several people tell you to
seek real instruction if you want to learn because videos arent going to
teach you how to do shit right and wrong nor will they teach you the
discipline that's required... rely on the videos and you'll get hurt




you've assumed all i've done is watch a single video. gtfo. you are dumbing down the conversation with your purposeful trolling, which is highly irresponsible and unprofessional as a moderator. the shroomery is a business. you are part of the 10% that needs to be cut off to maintain the business health


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    #14472707 - 05/18/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14472750 - 05/18/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah that's about what i'd expect from a mod of your caliber. no admission of error, just continuation of the same crap

i concur that you just have to get in his range and chew him up. backing up is stupid, means you have to re-engage


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472762 - 05/18/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
watching fight videos. people don't know what they're doing. here's some tips.

to win: bring in chew up spit out.

victimize by switching weapons(knees, punches, elbows, etc.) and zones(high, middle, low) to overload and shortcircuit them.

i see lots of fights where people back up and wait for the other to engage again. this is dumb. once the person is close enough to grab, grab them so you can fuck them up with 3 knees anywhere, alternating knees, and then either step on their foot and push them back to break their ankle, or schluck them out by pushing the chin one way and using their resistance to bring the head the opposite and unnatural way. use whichever you feel necessary to come out alive.

have fun being safe.




:lolsy:

You can't plan a fight out like that.

When fighting, you have to go with your basic survival instincts.




you must practice until your basic survival instincts are preprgrammed





True, but still, you cannot plan a fight.

"Watch this man! I'm going to knee this motherfucker in the face then sweep kick his ass and take it to the ground so I can choke his ass out"

Yeah, buddy.. That's the guy who ends up getting his ass kicked. A.K.A The guy who 'blacks out' or sees red when he gets into a fight.

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    #14472803 - 05/18/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i didn't mean to say a fight could be planned. but there are safer and easier ways to fight than what i commonly see in videos.

you don't kick high in theory, unless you spend a lot of time in practice, chop a man down and then kick him in the head. use proper weapons for proper situations. like whatever is lying around. you just want to be the one who comes out on top.

and you want to stay off the ground, because that's the final fighting zone, and you dont want that. grapplers will take you to the ground where they're more comfortable. if you go to the ground, fuck em up and get back up as soon as possible, perpendicular so they can't kick or grab you.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14472833 - 05/18/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's low bro. You don't kick a man when he's down. :crazy2:

I take it that you practice some form of martial arts, yes?


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    #14472848 - 05/18/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yes i practice a mix of what i find tactically intelligent. i study fight videos and different techniques through the internet because i have no money for a teacher. i'd have money for silver before a teacher, freaking inflating dollar.


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    #14472920 - 05/18/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I practiced Tangsudo for five years, Kick-boxing for 1 year and boxing for 3 years so I have some experience under my belt when it comes to kicking ass.

I suggest looking into Budo Taijutsu and Hapkido.

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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14473014 - 05/18/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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it will break if you have victimized them first.
i don't go around trying this out. but the theory is tested on the streets of israel and with the IDF.





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you should hear the guy i learned this stuff from. hilariously brutal

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4431278/F.I.G.H.T._Haganah_-_Custom_DVD



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you're not as convincing as the method i learned. one person's lifetime of fighting isn't worth as much as the lives saved with this system. thanks for the info though.



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mary mary quite contrary, without understanding what you attempt to negate. victimization is short circuiting until overload, through mixing weapons, zones and in the proper ranges. very effective at turning the tables on someone whose intent was victimizing you.



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you can't even keep up the facade of not trolling anymore. laaaaaaaaame.

i've been debating going into MMA to make some money with what i know because the videos i see show knees are allowed, which i thought was unsporting.

the FIGHT system incorporates haganah, krav maga, ju jitsu, and IDF military tactics.



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naysayer yet again. people are afraid of others success, makes them look lazy.



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you're just trolling to feel right. seriously. thanks for the input though



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you've assumed all i've done is watch a single video. gtfo. you are dumbing down the conversation with your purposeful trolling, which is highly irresponsible and unprofessional as a moderator. the shroomery is a business. you are part of the 10% that needs to be cut off to maintain the business health





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yeah that's about what i'd expect from a mod of your caliber. no admission of error, just continuation of the same crap

i concur that you just have to get in his range and chew him up. backing up is stupid, means you have to re-engage



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yes i practice a mix of what i find tactically intelligent. i study fight videos and different techniques through the internet because i have no money for a teacher. i'd have money for silver before a teacher, freaking inflating dollar.





really... who's trolling


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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14473054 - 05/18/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

obviously you who is continuing the troll, despite valuable conversation going on. :doublefacepalm: you've obviously taken a disliking to me, as evidenced by the effect i have on you, which is definitely not positive, through no one's fault but your own.

obvious troll is obvious


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14473143 - 05/18/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: fighting [Re: nice1]
    #14473272 - 05/18/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've been thinking about making money off of MMA now that I watched this online video


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Re: fighting [Re: wellage]
    #14473328 - 05/18/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i would kick op's ass.

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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14473360 - 05/18/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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fighting is a necessary tool in this day and age. it's brutal but so is the world.




Really, I'm 35 and have never had to fight anyone.


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Re: fighting [Re: 4runner]
    #14473385 - 05/18/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's a tool. you don't gotta be a thug but it's nice to be prepared and not have your teeth knocked out the back of your head.

i like the strategy that goes with it, it's a chess game.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14474989 - 05/18/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i mean no disrespect to the OP but it's prety clear from all of your posts in this thread and the way that you speak, that you are not a fighter at all really. maybe you have an interest in it and its something you enjoy learning about but you aren't a fighter. the way you describe situations and the terminology you use makes me think you haven't got any practical experience in real fighting.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14475012 - 05/18/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I was fighting the rock in wwf wrestling, I would take a piece of lined A4 with me into the ring.
Everybody knows that paper beats rock.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14475829 - 05/18/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

People like this come into the dojo all the time.

Self proclaimed tough guys who "know how to fight already" but have never trained before, and are "planning on going into MMA".

My instructor usually gets them to fight me because I'm about 141 lbs. Generally it either humbles and motivates them, or gets them to quit immediately.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14475942 - 05/18/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dude I know! Its the small, wiry guys you have to watch out for!

I'm not a really big guy but I'm built and I'll gas out in fight/match LOOOONG before a small wiry guy unless I focus on my breathing and relaxing all the muscles I'm not using at the moment.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14478494 - 05/19/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i mean no disrespect to the OP but it's prety clear from all of your posts in this thread and the way that you speak, that you are not a fighter at all really. maybe you have an interest in it and its something you enjoy learning about but you aren't a fighter. the way you describe situations and the terminology you use makes me think you haven't got any practical experience in real fighting.




i love sparring with friends, but i've never attacked anyone in the normal sense. and i'm usually a peaceful enough guy that people are defused if angry at me, off the internet.

i am a wiry small guy. i've always had an active lifestyle, my heart beats pretty slow and powerful, and i've meditated to a point where i have partially ingrained how to breath better, instead of short animal breaths.

kinda egotistic line of conversation, but you wondered.

i have the confidence to know what to do if someone holds a gun or knife at me within range of me. i feel i don't really need much more than that, other than the stamina to chew through multiple people. that's what the heavy bag work helps with.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14481446 - 05/19/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, i'm just saying, all that goes out the window once you get clocked in the face a few times buddy. takes alot of practical experience to be able to centre yourself and find your rhythym while you've got some ninja on the other side trying to kick and punch you in the head constantly ! this is why trainers are necessary not videos, because a video can only teach you the one thing it teaches, where as a trainer can respond to ur situations, observer where you need more guidance or work and help you on this. you cant set up a dvd in your corner during a fight and have it replay the ' how to throw a leg kick ' or ' how to counter attack ' video.


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Re: fighting [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14482074 - 05/20/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, if i had some money i'd have a trainer. but study and practice aren't "out the window" in a fight. sweat spent in training is blood saved on the battlefield. i'd try my damndest not to get hit in the face anyways because if they can reach with a fist they can slit your throat with a knife. i understand a trainer is great. but intense study and focus have to come somewhere near? and you take things from videos and practice them until it's ingrained in your arsenal.


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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14489264 - 05/21/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Krav Maga is a bullshit martial art.

Every person I've fought with who trained Krav was a half baked fighter with delusional overconfidence.

Haganah is a bullshit knockoff of Krav that even the Krav guys say is bullshit. See?




make your links bigger, i missed that shit.

Thanks for the info about FIGHT, it seemed pretty cool, but i'm glad i never intended to pay for it, torrents save me lots of money. Now i know that the guy hypes it up to sell it and lies about his combat experience.

Money making schemes don't entirely destroy the content validity hopefully. I'm not going to forget everything i learned from it, I still see usefulness in it. Reevaluating my knowledge definitely, not that i wasn't in a state of growth anyways.

i don't intend to pay anyone, that doesn't truly deserve it, what little dollars i've been getting when there are so many free resources. it does help to get the views of experienced martial artists though, as evidenced by what i've learned in this thread, but i didn't doubt that anyways.

so haganah(not talking about FIGHT here, because FIGHT claims to be more than one style) is a knockoff of Krav Maga? i didn't realize i should be studying the history of the martial arts methods instead of just taking what was useful and moving on.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14489355 - 05/21/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

krav maga and similar systems depends on bursting of energy in order to
defeat an attacker, you throw all your energy into your attack which is
great if you make contact with your attack but it limits your recovery
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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14489628 - 05/21/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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krav maga and similar systems depends on bursting of energy in order to
defeat an attacker, you throw all your energy into your attack which is
great if you make contact with your attack but it limits your recovery
and expends too much energy in too short a time




so different styles have different energy use tactics. what would an example of a different energy use analysis be? like waste equal amounts? i can't picture it.

moderators need moderator rating, not just general rating. as a poster, i enjoy what you say sometimes. as a moderator, i can't see how anyone can function, the rules being so vague. like whoever wrote them had no legalese experience. lol that didn't spell check incorrectly(legalese), must be a real word.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14489653 - 05/21/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

OP I agree, a lot of people have no idea how to throw a decent punch. you see people taking these wild swings way out to their sides...as opposed to throwing a straight punch.

although it doesnt sound to me like you've been in too many fights. It's not like you can just execute a set of moves in succession...your opponent is fighting back...


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14489656 - 05/21/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Advice my dad gave me about fighting:
"Hit as hard as you can, as fast as you can, wherever you can, and don't stop for any reason. If you know you'll get your ass kicked, kick them in the nuts and run like a bitch"

Not pretty, you might get called a little bitch, but it works.


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Re: fighting [Re: Shroomerited]
    #14489674 - 05/21/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Advice my dad gave me about fighting:
"Hit as hard as you can, as fast as you can, wherever you can, and don't stop for any reason. If you know you'll get your ass kicked, kick them in the nuts and run like a bitch"

Not pretty, you might get called a little bitch, but it works.




lol, i think the same, except i'd like to neutralize(break something so they can't fight anytime soon) so they can't try to reengage before i gtfo.

i really should change the OP so people stop thinking that's the exact thing to do in every fight. it's an overview and tips. i understand every fight is different, but the weapons and tactics should be similar.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491301 - 05/21/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's pretty simple. To be a good well rounded fighter you need 3 things.

Kickboxing.
Grappling.
Weapons.

Generally (but not always):

The best kickboxing systems are western boxing, boxe francais, and Muay Thai.

The best grappling systems are Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Catch/Greco Wrestling, and Sambo

The best weapon systems are  Kali, Krabi Krabong, and The Japanese weapon arts.

Find a good instructor, pay attention to what they teach you, and make sure they will spar with you.
This is how you will get better.

Watch out for schools where nobody spars, especially if the teacher will not spar with you. Martial artists who don't spar make up for it with extra "chi". These aren't the people you want teaching you to fight.

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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14491409 - 05/21/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's pretty simple. To be a good well rounded fighter you need 3 things.

Kickboxing.
Grappling.
Weapons.

Generally (but not always):

The best kickboxing systems are western boxing, boxe francais, and Muay Thai.

The best grappling systems are Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Catch/Greco Wrestling, and Sambo

The best weapon systems are  Kali, Krabi Krabong, and The Japanese weapon arts.

Find a good instructor, pay attention to what they teach you, and make sure they will spar with you.
This is how you will get better.

Watch out for schools where nobody spars, especially if the teacher will not spar with you. Martial artists who don't spar make up for it with extra "chi". These aren't the people you want teaching you to fight.

My $0.02




fuck that i can get better on my own as well. That is how you will get better faster. thanks for the styles to look at.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491422 - 05/21/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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fuck that i can get better on my own as well. That is how you will get better faster. thanks for the styles to look at.



:thumbdown: You cant learn to fight alone fighting is a 2 person or more activity


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14491447 - 05/21/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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so different styles have different energy use tactics. what would an example of a different energy use analysis be? like waste equal amounts? i can't picture it.




some styles depend on the force like krav maga while others like Jun Fan or
Wing Chun depend on you using what your opponent does against them

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the rules being so vague.




the rules arent vague, they're pretty simple and concise, you just opt to
believe they dont really apply to you and make excuses. I dislike excuses
the way I see it, the rules are there and it's up to you to know them and
abide by them, if you choose to ignore them for what ever reason, no excuse
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Re: fighting [Re: Heffy]
    #14491462 - 05/21/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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boxe francais





Savate

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Re: fighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14491478 - 05/21/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i can't seem to follow them, and i have tried to understand them, therefore not concise enough for everyone.

there needs to be revision. or less loose interpreting. but it's hard to interpret what is meant when they're not concise. nothing is defined, it's just linked to freaking wikipedia, like a pretend citation.

i honestly don't get them. which means i should stop posting actually, because i can't agree to terms i don't understand. see you later i guess. funny ending.


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    #14491490 - 05/21/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Fighting is a waste of energy.




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    #14491999 - 05/21/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the rules aren't rocket science and the mods are actually pretty forgiving around here ya know.


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Re: fighting [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14492009 - 05/21/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i can't seem to follow them





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