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OfflineFcuerkt
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dessicant super bruising!
    #1447151 - 04/10/03 05:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Man, I dried out some ricans under a fan for like 30 hours, and then I took them and put them in a jar with some dessicant. I go back and look the next day, and the entire stem on each mushroom is totally blue. The first flush, which sat around longer before going into the jar (just got the jar) look okay.

WTF happened?? Have I lost potency?


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Re: dessicant super bruising! [Re: Fcuerkt]
    #1447380 - 04/10/03 06:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The same thing happened to Dr. X, and he knows exactly what's up. He dried his for 24 hours under a fan, then put them into an airtight dessicant chamber.... two days later, his mushies were totally blue, starting to get white mold on some of the gills, and barely any more dry.

Solution: Just leave the mushies in a bowl and have a fan blowing on them for as long as possible per day. They won't blue, and they'll dry like a friggin cracker. Dr. X has no idea what the big deal is with dessicant, the fan dried his perfectly after about 3 days under the fan.


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Re: dessicant super bruising! [Re: mtglu]
    #1447384 - 04/10/03 06:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

P.S. Don't worry about the potency, if any of was lost, Dr. X didn't notice  :wink: 


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Re: dessicant super bruising! [Re: mtglu]
    #1447421 - 04/10/03 06:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Perhaps the excessive bluing could be chalked up to the higher alkaloid contents the PRs are renowned for? My FOAF would be concerned about using only a fan if the shrooms are to be stored for any lengthy period of time. Just because they appear to be dried on the outside doesn't mean they are completely dry through and through. After reading more than 1 story of seemingly dry shrooms becoming a rotten, unedible mess my FOAF swore to always dessicate.


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Re: dessicant super bruising! [Re: Uber]
    #1447469 - 04/10/03 06:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No, blueing has nothing to do with higher alkoid content. It is a myth. Blueing is only caused by excessive handling, which lead to bruising.


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Re: dessicant super bruising! [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1447530 - 04/10/03 07:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

why do people say blue shrooms are monster potent then, its probly just a myth. and is it true they like blue light, i got some from my car i can put over the terranium if its solid science


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Re: dessicant super bruising! [Re: AKcultivator]
    #1447558 - 04/10/03 07:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No, I dont think its any good. Light is only a way to tell them which way to grow in, nothing more.


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Re: dessicant super bruising! [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1447567 - 04/10/03 07:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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No, blueing has nothing to do with higher alkoid content. It is a myth. Blueing is only caused by excessive handling, which lead to bruising.



Bruising is oxidization and occurs when the innards of the mushroom are exposed to air (oxygen). This can be through almost anything. A totally oxidized mushroom may lose much of it's potency, so be careful while handling.

Also, your problem may have been that you only let them fan dry for 30 hours. It's a good idea to leave them out there until they are almost cracker dry, at which point you can move them into the dessicant chamber.

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No, I dont think its any good. Light is only a way to tell them which way to grow in, nothing more.



Taken from the Shroomery FAQ:

Psilocybe Cubensis is a photosensitive mushroom, meaning certain spectra of light are necessary for pinhead formation and development. Ps. Cubensis responds best to light heavy in the blue- and ultra-violet spectrum, specifically which peak at 370, 440, and 460 nanometers. Red, infra-red, and green light on the other hand are ineffective at initiating pinheads. A few hours of light per day is really all that is needed.


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Edited by Angry Mycologist (04/10/03 07:34 PM)


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