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Friend lost his mind...
#14471393 - 05/18/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've known this guy since elementary school, we've been fairly close friends for years. We're both 19 now. I'll call him JR in this story. So it all started last Friday, I met up with him and another friend of mine to catch up and smoke. JR gets in the car and starts telling my friend "I was driving around last night, I made a right turn off the highway, another right turn, and another right turn, and I then ran out of gas and my dad picked me up." ....cool story bro, right? I let that slide, figured maybe he was just high or something, so the day goes on and he's doing all kinds of weird shit. Breathing weird, sweating.. weird shit. I ask if he's taken any drugs, he said no. I believe him, this guy doesn't drink, doesn't smoke cigarettes, and occasionally smokes weed.
The next day my friend and I meet up with JR again to see if he was doing better. Here's a couple things I remember JR saying.. "some people can tap into the 5th and 6th demensions, the 5th and 6th dimensions are divided between males and females, some people like the Mormons can tap into the 7th dimension. And there's up to 21 dimensions." "If you fully understand space and time you can travel faster than the speed of light" (later he told us that he had been driving faster than the speed of light after he understood space, and time.) He would spontaniously shout "The Mormons are right!"
sigh.. OK, so a couple days go by. The police find him laying on top of his car in the middle of the highway, completely out of gas. Apparently he put up a little resistance, they detained him and released him to his father later that night. This was last night on Monday.
So today nobody can get ahold of him. Myself and a couple of my close friends are hanging out at a friend's house who lives near JR. We had just met up with JR's dad to tell him that his son has lost his mind.. Next thing I know, JR is AT THE DOOR of my friend's house. We try to act like everything's cool, just trying to get JR to relax, he was ranting. We give him some food, he eats a little, then he stands up and says alright i've gotta go. He dissapears into the house. We get up to follow him so we could tell him to stay.. we spread out and can't find him. We meet back up at the front door and then we see him drive away down the street. (the house isn't that big.. we have no idea how he dodged all 3 of us, we think he hid under a bed until we went outside.. and then he snuck into his car some how)
So we hop into our cars and chase after him.. we were going 80 MPH and he lost us.. so I assume he was going 90-100+
That was 3 hours ago. JUST NOW as I was typing this, his ex-girlfriend calls me out of fucking no where crying and tells me that he showed up at her house and he was telling her that he was going to "kill the people who were trying to contain him."
....... What the fuck do I do?
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Sounds like maybe he is developing schizophrenia?
I would talk with his dad about getting him in to see a medical professional.
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It sounds like he's a high level shaman to me.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Luman] 1
#14471408 - 05/18/11 01:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did earlier today. His dad said that JR was no longer his son  His dad called the cops and they're looking for him.
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Wow... sounds like he's from K-Pax
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Hope he doesn't have schizophrenia, that's about the age that it starts rearing its ugly head. Do you know if he has a family history of this?
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ButteredToast said: I did earlier today. His dad said that JR was no longer his son  His dad called the cops and they're looking for him.
That's shitty.
The cops really aren't going to treat him kindly.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14471443 - 05/18/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The people that run the insane-asylum aren't gonna be too kind either.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: TYL3R]
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ButteredToast said: His dad said that JR was no longer his son
Wtf what a dick
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: TYL3R]
#14471453 - 05/18/11 02:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's the scary thing, his aunt had some kind of mental illness, and his cousin is mentally retarded, I do not know the actual diagnosis.
Damn. You always read about people going crazy on the shroomery but I never thought it would happen to someone so close.
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Yea bro...
But such is life.
Gotta live it up while you can. I hope the OP keeps us informed about this guy...would like to hear what his life was like during the six months leading up to this.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: m00nshine]
#14471483 - 05/18/11 02:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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at that point you need to call someone like the cops. I hate bringing cops into anything (trust me I paused and tried to think of someone else), but my brother and father are both schizophrenic, a guy I worked with was, and my friends uncle is. I would say your friend definitely sounds like he has schizophrenia of some type although sometimes it can be other similar things, either way you need to get him into a psych ward asap.
One night my brother just sat up (around 2 am) and said "I think I'm going to move to alaska" so I said oh that sounds cool, when you plan on moving there? he didn't answer and just started packing shit into his car and drove off. Later I found out that he had spontaneously driven all the way to alaska, and he stayed there for two years living off of a snickers bar a day, giving his clothes away to random bums and often was found sleeping on the steps of the church. When my family went to find him he was in horrible condition and tried to run away into the woods once and to a monastery. When you talked to him it would take literally about 5 minutes til he responded and he later admitted he would say a prayer before each and every response.
anyway he was freaking out (pretty scary stuff) and someone called the police and said they were worried about his mental condition and they basically dragged him away. It was disturbing and depressing to see, but after a few months he came out of the psych ward on medication and we made sure he stayed on it and now he's doing just fine.
so my advice is do whats best for him and for everyone else, get him help asap
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I really just hope the police get to him before he hurts somebody, or himself.
JR has always been a troubled person, his mom passed away in a car accident when he was 6 years old. His girlfriend broke up with him a few months ago, his aunt died last month (that was his moms sister, he was very close with her even though she was mentally handicapped.)
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1tokeovrtheline said: One night my brother just sat up (around 2 am) and said "I think I'm going to move to alaska" so I said oh that sounds cool, when you plan on moving there? he didn't answer and just started packing shit into his car and drove off. Later I found out that he had spontaneously driven all the way to alaska, and he stayed there for two years living off of a snickers bar a day, giving his clothes away to random bums and often was found sleeping on the steps of the church. When my family went to find him he was in horrible condition and tried to run away into the woods once and to a monastery......
I honestly don't see anything bad or wrong with that other than the snickers bar every day , that can't be healthy....
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: openmind] 2
#14471539 - 05/18/11 02:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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openmind, your username is misleading.
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He needs medical attention right away or otherwise he or someone else might get hurt.
If it's schizophrenia I'm surprised it manifested so fast. I know 2 guys who have it. In their case there we're noticeable signs long before they went insane. Not that anyone understood it back then, but it's so clear now.
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ButteredToast said: I've known this guy since elementary school, we've been fairly close friends for years. We're both 19 now. I'll call him JR in this story. So it all started last Friday, I met up with him and another friend of mine to catch up and smoke. JR gets in the car and starts telling my friend "I was driving around last night, I made a right turn off the highway, another right turn, and another right turn, and I then ran out of gas and my dad picked me up." ....cool story bro, right? I let that slide, figured maybe he was just high or something, so the day goes on and he's doing all kinds of weird shit. Breathing weird, sweating.. weird shit. I ask if he's taken any drugs, he said no. I believe him, this guy doesn't drink, doesn't smoke cigarettes, and occasionally smokes weed.
The next day my friend and I meet up with JR again to see if he was doing better. Here's a couple things I remember JR saying.. "some people can tap into the 5th and 6th demensions, the 5th and 6th dimensions are divided between males and females, some people like the Mormons can tap into the 7th dimension. And there's up to 21 dimensions." "If you fully understand space and time you can travel faster than the speed of light" (later he told us that he had been driving faster than the speed of light after he understood space, and time.) He would spontaniously shout "The Mormons are right!"
sigh.. OK, so a couple days go by. The police find him laying on top of his car in the middle of the highway, completely out of gas. Apparently he put up a little resistance, they detained him and released him to his father later that night. This was last night on Monday.
So today nobody can get ahold of him. Myself and a couple of my close friends are hanging out at a friend's house who lives near JR. We had just met up with JR's dad to tell him that his son has lost his mind.. Next thing I know, JR is AT THE DOOR of my friend's house. We try to act like everything's cool, just trying to get JR to relax, he was ranting. We give him some food, he eats a little, then he stands up and says alright i've gotta go. He dissapears into the house. We get up to follow him so we could tell him to stay.. we spread out and can't find him. We meet back up at the front door and then we see him drive away down the street. (the house isn't that big.. we have no idea how he dodged all 3 of us, we think he hid under a bed until we went outside.. and then he snuck into his car some how)
So we hop into our cars and chase after him.. we were going 80 MPH and he lost us.. so I assume he was going 90-100+
That was 3 hours ago. JUST NOW as I was typing this, his ex-girlfriend calls me out of fucking no where crying and tells me that he showed up at her house and he was telling her that he was going to "kill the people who were trying to contain him."
....... What the fuck do I do?
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I'm not trolling.. and you're right, this isn't funny at all.
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ButteredToast said: I'm not trolling.. and you're right, this isn't funny at all.
wow
you are actually obligating me to read the OP to actually see if you are trolling\
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How so?...

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ButteredToast said: I'm not trolling.. and you're right, this isn't funny at all.
wow
you are actually obligating me to read the OP to actually see if you are trolling\
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What the heck are you talking about
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: ShakeZor]
#14471761 - 05/18/11 04:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It doesn't necessarily has to be schizophrenia. Anyway, you do have his license plate number? You should definitely warn the cops, when someone sporadically yells mormons rock something is definitely not ok, now talking about killing people is a bit more worrying, specially if you're from America where guns are toys.
Warn someone who can do something about him being on the loose and then someone who can help in his psychological condition.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: m00nshine]
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m00nshine said: It sounds like he's a high level shaman to me.
Be prepared for the fight of your LIFE
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: mongo lloyd]
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m00nshine said: It sounds like he's a high level shaman to me.
Be prepared for the fight of your LIFE
Level 85 
Just don't let him put up his totems. 
Sorry, dude.
If you really care about him, I'd start looking for a good mental hospital or something before he winds up in a shitty one because the police find him first.
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From what I read, it sounds legit. I had a friend a year ago who I met in college. He was chill for the most part, but had previously broken down at his high school. Not too sure if he was bipolar or schizophrenic, but when he didn't take his depacote, he went crazy! There would be no communicating with him, nothing I said would get through to him. He seemed to be on a mission, a crazy mission that made no sense to me.
He ended up gettin arrested one night when his meds weren't working? and eventually moved to some of his family out of state that could keep a better eye on him. From what I know, he's doin fine, even has a girl(which would be IMPOSSIBLE if was acting anything like he was around me).
All this happened before I really got into shrooms, but on a trip I had, I seemed to be able to mentally relate to the state his mind was in when he went insane. Freaked me out, I started hyperventilating for the first time in my life. When I came down, something from that trip made me have the strongest feeling that my friend was on shrooms when he was having a crazy fit... but who knows, I don't.
Mental illnesses are scary.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: The Phleg]
#14471856 - 05/18/11 05:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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pyrate999 said: From what I read, it sounds legit. I had a friend a year ago who I met in college. He was chill for the most part, but had previously broken down at his high school. Not too sure if he was bipolar or schizophrenic, but when he didn't take his depacote, he went crazy! There would be no communicating with him, nothing I said would get through to him. He seemed to be on a mission, a crazy mission that made no sense to me.
He ended up gettin arrested one night when his meds weren't working? and eventually moved to some of his family out of state that could keep a better eye on him. From what I know, he's doin fine, even has a girl(which would be IMPOSSIBLE if was acting anything like he was around me).
All this happened before I really got into shrooms, but on a trip I had, I seemed to be able to mentally relate to the state his mind was in when he went insane. Freaked me out, I started hyperventilating for the first time in my life. When I came down, something from that trip made me have the strongest feeling that my friend was on shrooms when he was having a crazy fit... but who knows, I don't.
Mental illnesses are scary.
very interesting that you felt that way, osmond used psychedelics because he believed them to be psychomimetic or mimicking these states of mind and used them to relate better to his patients. of course that was disproven, but I think a certain amount of empathy for someone in that state of mind plus a trip can equal a better understanding of it
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God that reminds me of the summer I took too much acid. Even when I wasn't tripping I felt like I was. I almost got committed because I didn't know what was real anymore. I would go on rants about shit people said was insane and I ran from people trying to put me in a hospital. I packed a bag and ran off to Virginia beach to live. I eventually came out of the insanity and called my parents to send a cab and bus ticket a few months later. They said they thought I was dead somewhere or crazy. For me not doing drugs at all snapped me out of it after awhile thank god. I remember waking up on the beach and looking out at the ocean and just crying with insanity. After the hardest cry I ever had I felt the walls in my brain and the filters in my mind slide back up. I was clear headed and everything seemed to right itself. I did WAY to much acid for WAY to long. I gaurd my thoughts carefully these days. Whenever I start feeling off I meditate and think of nothing. If I see a crazy person acting crazyy brain freaks out and I almost feel insane just watching them.
I feel bad for your friend. I hope he gets help. I couldn't imagine acting that way without drug use doing it. That would scare me to death.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Kada]
#14472728 - 05/18/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds a lot like a bath salt casualty. Not trolling, it just sounds a lot like the crazy stuff I've read about that shite.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Kada]
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Kada said: God that reminds me of the summer I took too much acid. Even when I wasn't tripping I felt like I was. I almost got committed because I didn't know what was real anymore. I would go on rants about shit people said was insane and I ran from people trying to put me in a hospital. I packed a bag and ran off to Virginia beach to live. I eventually came out of the insanity and called my parents to send a cab and bus ticket a few months later. They said they thought I was dead somewhere or crazy. For me not doing drugs at all snapped me out of it after awhile thank god. I remember waking up on the beach and looking out at the ocean and just crying with insanity. After the hardest cry I ever had I felt the walls in my brain and the filters in my mind slide back up. I was clear headed and everything seemed to right itself. I did WAY to much acid for WAY to long. I gaurd my thoughts carefully these days. Whenever I start feeling off I meditate and think of nothing. If I see a crazy person acting crazyy brain freaks out and I almost feel insane just watching them.
I feel bad for your friend. I hope he gets help. I couldn't imagine acting that way without drug use doing it. That would scare me to death.
naw bro, you didn't go crazy, you just deconditioned your mind to societies bullshit. it takes a while to re-train your muscles to conform to the way they functioned before.
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OP, maybe he just started not giving a fuck and is having some erratic jollies?
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ButteredToast said: I'm not trolling.. and you're right, this isn't funny at all.
wow
you are actually obligating me to read the OP to actually see if you are trolling\
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Can you clarify what the fuck you're on about in this post? I'm trying to work out whether you're a cunt or not.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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damn a friend of a friend recently went batshit insane.
started saying wierd stuff like you were, and on a road trip in which my friends were driving from norcal to socal in a Prius, noone with licenses, we're stopped by the cops. The guy was driving and kept on asking the cop to search the car and kept telling the cop how everything was going wrong and the end was near..
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14473081 - 05/18/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ButteredToast said: I'm not trolling.. and you're right, this isn't funny at all.
wow
you are actually obligating me to read the OP to actually see if you are trolling\
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Can you clarify what the fuck you're on about in this post? I'm trying to work out whether you're a cunt or not.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: The Phleg]
#14473093 - 05/18/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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pyrate999 said: Not too sure if he was bipolar or schizophrenic, but when he didn't take his depacote, he went crazy! There would be no communicating with him, nothing I said would get through to him. He seemed to be on a mission, a crazy mission that made no sense to me.
This sounds to the T like what happened to my friend after a mushroom trip.
He went extremely manic, wouldn't sleep much, was on some crazy mission, was speaking mostly in rhyme/freestyle... It was very sad for me. I tried my best to ground him. Have him chill out and blaze with us- or do some yoga with me- anything to get him to shift into a lower gear.
If it's any comfort, OP, he is fine now. He had to go to a mental institution for a bit and is still a bit quirky though. But he's got his priorities in line better than me- going to school, doing things he really loves (like photography, skateboarding). Who am I to judge?
Just find some type of help for your friend before it's too late. Normally, a calm intervention with the family-- voicing your general concerns-- would be what I'd think to do. It looks like the burden falls on your shoulders with a father like that though.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14473219 - 05/18/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice everyone. No one knows where he is right now.. I'll keep you guys updated.
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Well this sounds crappy...damage control is what it's about right now by the sound of it, force might be needed, antipsychotics probably and a mental institution, those places seem all doom and gloom until you actually need them...good luck.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Takura001]
#14473370 - 05/18/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I had a friend who went crazy too
just letem do their thang until they're back, and don't do anything to make your quality of life worse just because someone who used to be there for you isn't any more.
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KrishnaDreamer
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: 13.step]
#14473373 - 05/18/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i got a friend like that, he seems to be doing better after he got on meds though.
be prepared for the fight of your life if he thinks you're a threat to him.
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Update.
My friend returned home after being missing for 2 days. I contacted his father to see if he was ok, he refused to tell me what happened to his son. I contacted JR's younger (step)brother who told me that JR is 'safe' in a mental hospital. It sounds like his family is just going to act like JR never existed. Sad.
Well shroomery, be safe out there.
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what a nice and loving family. When the going gets tough...."well I gotta get going, I've got more important shit to deal with than my son".
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1tokeovrtheline said:
what a nice and loving family. When the going gets tough...."well I gotta get going, I've got more important shit to deal with than my son".
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Micawber]
#14484890 - 05/20/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fuck it's too bad he has a shitty family. i've been in that situation before (gone psychotic, put in a mental hospital) a couple times, was put on meds.. i think your friend will be fine in a little time
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Good luck. These situations are so hard. A girlfriend of mine had a 40 year old brother who became mentally ill (diagnosed with drug-induced schizophrenia) during his mid to late teenage years. The onset was extremely rapid and occurred after the guy went on an LSD bender. Similar symptoms to what's been discussed here. His family, not knowing what to do, put him into a state mental hospital which really seemed to do nothing but worsen his symptoms.
After getting out, he would often run away from home and his mom and sister would have to go looking for him, sometimes hundreds of miles away in nearby big cities (Reno, NV was a favorite). Often when they found him, he would be in terrible shape, having lived on the streets destitute, malnourished, using drugs (with a particular affinity for meth), mentally insane and at times seemingly close to death.
It's been over two decades since, and he still lives at home with his mom who has to take care of him since he has been unable to progress through community college or hold down a job. His medication routine has his most scary, disruptive and at times violent tendencies under control, but he is definitely not of an entirely rational mind. I actually like the guy quite a bit and see a lot of potential, but in these situations I believe the only thing that can really help to repair the damage is the close support of family and friends.
All too often, family resigns and friends slowly lose contact as they become frustrated with how their old friend's behavior has changed and just don't want to deal with the volatility of their illness. This is the worst case scenario, as genuine caring human interaction will be the best medicine for people in these states of mind. Unfortunately, it's much easier to say than to do.
All the best of luck, to you and your friend!
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ButteredToast said: Update.
My friend returned home after being missing for 2 days. I contacted his father to see if he was ok, he refused to tell me what happened to his son. I contacted JR's younger (step)brother who told me that JR is 'safe' in a mental hospital. It sounds like his family is just going to act like JR never existed. Sad.
Well shroomery, be safe out there.

Treacherous fucking faggots.
A mental hospital isn't going to do anything to help him feel more comfortable being himself in this realm. The only thing a mental hospital will do is make all of the other shitheads feel more comfortable living inside of their bullshit worlds.
You friend needs a teacher and a community to help him with his uniqueness. This society isn't at all accommodating to those who are different. As we can see, many people who belong to this fucked up "cultural system" feel like entrusting an inherently tyrannical system with their own "ill" child's care is appropriate.
Your friends father sounds like a faggot ass piece of shit. Father isn't even a word he's permitted to use in self-reference.
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Re: Friend lost his mind... [Re: Humility]
#14485563 - 05/20/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd say it depends on the mental hospital. they aren't the stereotypical image of an "insane asylum" anymore, but some of the more conservative ones can do more harm than good. Some of the good ones though can help people a lot. The one my brother went to was the first place he was treated as a human being, and they really helped boost his confidence and get through the emotional toll of experiencing schizophrenia, and once he came to terms with it he improved rapidly. With my family it just got worse and worse because my conservative prick parents treated him like he was just a disappointment and a burden
I sincerely hope that does not happen to your friend, and I'd recommend checking with the place he is staying to see when he has improved enough to go see him. one of the most important things is that he has support, and apparently he won't find that with his family
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