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Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends...
    #14471042 - 05/17/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I posted about this in a different forum, but I'm posting it here now as well because it's technically a trip report now. Just not a personal trip report, by word of mouth. It's not anything stupid like salvia, this is some crazy shit.

My friends told me about this stuff called "Diablo." It's legal, you can buy it from a smoke shop. It's 30 bucks in the store but I found it on ebay for 15 so I got it. Here it is: eBay Diablo

The ingredeients, if you look at the web page (or in case this thread gets old and the ebay listing is taken down) are listed as:  a blend of Mullein, Damiana, Marshmallow herbs and a proprietary blend of aromatic ingredients.  I have only looked up those ingredients on wikipedia, which is not THE most informative view on anything really for that matter, (just wanted to get quick reference) on these internets, but all it said it did was just act as a relaxer and/or aphrodesiac. NOTHING about being phsychedelic or hallucinogenic or anything.

They said to take it real slow. Take one hit, wait awhile, take another if you feel necessary, and so forth.. He said one hit will make your body feel like you just smoked a blunt, just super high feeling. He said eventually your vision will be "frame by frame" if you've experienced this you KNOW what it is. They said they have reached that multiple times while doing diablo. He said that the high high feeling goes away within about 45 minutes to an hour. He said that there was no mental "trip" where it feels like you're in another world. Only a "visual" trip and a body high feeling. Regarding frame by frame vision, me, both my friends, and practically everyone I've asked, has only experienced "frame by frame" vision the VERY first time we got super BAKED, and it never happened anymore after that. But with diablo, it happens every time you smoke it. Anyway...

Today, a whole day after they had smoked the diablo, when we all started smoking weed, both friends who had smoked the diablo were either having after effects, flashbacks, or were STILL tripping, but they said as soon as they started smoking weed, they both started gradually tripping harder as the more weed they were smoking. They said when they would focus their vision on something, like someone talking or whatever, everything around them would shift and do weird shit. They said they "couldn't describe it." So it must be some crazy shit. 

My friends said they did smoke quite a bit as well. They didn't say exactly how much, they just said they kept hitting it. They said to just STOP when you start seeing frame by frame vision because that's typically what everyone likes and wants to be able to achieve without having to completely fry out their brains. lol!

So have any of you had experience with Diablo? Talk about your experiences. Would you like to try?

I'm definitely going to try! haha!

One last thing, both my friends both said that they were wondering if it was going to be permanant, or if they would stop having after effects, or still tripping or whatever. I mean they were driving and working (we're work buddies) so apperently the affter effects only come on when you smoke weed, which is actually considered a "psychedelic" so of course it would potentiate the effects of other psychedelics. So what do you think? This friend smokes A LOOOOT of weed and he said he couldn't smoke anymore because it was just making him trip harder and harder. No mental trip, just visual. Strange herbs.

In general, when we were still at work, one of my friends, who smoked the most, said that the day after (today), everything he saw, it just "looked" different. He couldn't describe it.

Sorry if any of this seems unformatted or whatever, I tried formatting as best as possible, my friends and I were all smoking bowls out of a good bubbler with a bowl that could fit a 1/2 gram and we each matched a 1/2 gram. Super baked right now and just wanted to get the news out about this crazy diablo shit. I tend to write a novel when I'm high. I also NEVER go out with friends and match THAT much weed! I have a dinky pipe, not a crazy bubbler! lol


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14471083 - 05/18/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

learn to mix your own and you will save big bucks. That stuff costs 25 cents a gram to produce in bulk. The bags its in cost the most if they are printed nice in a foil bag. Its herbs dipped/sprayed in chems that act like cannabis to the brain. The stuff been in stores for years like 10 or so years in EU 5+ in the US. welcome to today. Can't wait for your post in 2023 on bath salts.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: argg]
    #14471154 - 05/18/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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learn to mix your own and you will save big bucks. That stuff costs 25 cents a gram to produce in bulk. The bags its in cost the most if they are printed nice in a foil bag. Its herbs dipped/sprayed in chems that act like cannabis to the brain. The stuff been in stores for years like 10 or so years in EU 5+ in the US. welcome to today. Can't wait for your post in 2023 on bath salts.



loooooooooooooooool :laugh:
ya i just smoke the jwh-xxx myself and get FUCKED UP:D

but these blends are getting abit to much press and alot of the canniboids are going to become banned :/, so stock up >:D


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: argg]
    #14471363 - 05/18/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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learn to mix your own and you will save big bucks. That stuff costs 25 cents a gram to produce in bulk. The bags its in cost the most if they are printed nice in a foil bag. Its herbs dipped/sprayed in chems that act like cannabis to the brain. The stuff been in stores for years like 10 or so years in EU 5+ in the US. welcome to today. Can't wait for your post in 2023 on bath salts.



Um, well, excuse me! Lol!! I've always just smoked weed because you know, like, it's always available, and I've always lived with family and can afford it (going to college). I mean I always saw the shit in the back of high times magazines but knew it was BUNK. The first time I heard of that legal shit was when all the hype about salvia hit a couple years ago. I tried the 10x but all it did was made me feel heavy. Lame. I never thought any of the other crap they sold at smoke shops was any good. I thought it just made you a little relaxed, nothing crazy like this diablo stuff.

I was thinking that all this legal shit will probably get banned some day and to stock up, that is, after I try it out. I don't want a big supply it if it lasts DAYS.

The problem with buying your own and mixing it yourself is that you don't know what that other "proprietary blend of aromatic ingredients" is.

One smoke shop near me does not sell diablo because "it is not confirmed by the DEA" He might have said FDA, but I wasn't really listening to him that well. Another smoke shop does sell it, but for 30 bucks.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14471471 - 05/18/11 02:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

is bath salts slang another name for something?

And which synthetic cannabinoids/analogues are legal in the US? I was under the impression that none of the jwh serries is legal in the US anymore, because of the DEA.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: maug]
    #14471590 - 05/18/11 02:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Um, I want to know if anyone else has done this shit.

I mean, "frame by frame" vision and day after smoking weed effects sounds pretty fucking insane to me even if you're not really fully completely "tripping."

Is this shit safe? Is it going to give me after effects for the rest of my life? My friend said he's not going to smoke weed for a month and will see if he has anymore after effects. But that will take a whole month for him to get back with me on that.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14471672 - 05/18/11 03:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's pretty safe. There used to be some problems with acetone impurities, but I don't think they have that problem anymore. Each one is going to have it's own way of being metabolized, and have it's own "personality".

there are dozens of different synthetic cannabinoids, and each is different. I've had the diablo band before, and it's rather sativa like. I love that spice stuff. The only complaint I have is the stuff they spray it on (mugwort and damiana usually)

There was one really funny post I saw on another forum. There was one kid who was ranting about how dangerous it was. He said he snorted a gram of pure jwh and was like "I was totally out of it all day and still seeing colors the next day. No one do this stuff. It's too dangerous." But the post right after him was perfect. It said "But you lived..." I'm sure there are still consequences for stupidity, but it's safe enough.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: maug]
    #14471707 - 05/18/11 04:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think the bath salts is a "legal coke" type effect. Correct me if I'm wrong. I've never tried it, I would do the real deal before I stuffed bath salts up my nose.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: 2shoes]
    #14471716 - 05/18/11 04:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This is why I was wondering about the bath salts.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: maug]
    #14471745 - 05/18/11 04:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That story is all kinds of sad for the goat and the fact that dude was strung out for 3 days on bath salts. Someone has to be a statistic I guess.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: 2shoes]
    #14473821 - 05/18/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So I got my diablo in the mail. VERY fast shipping! Took 1 hit about 40 minutes ago, and took another one about 5 minutes ago.

It shifts perception mildly and gives MILD MILD VERY MILD visuals. It relaxes the boy mildly and creates a sense of happiness in the mind. A little like how marijuana makes you happy. What I mean by "shifts perception" is that when I'm just walking or not thinking about anything, I just "see" the world in a different manner. Things take on a very mild new meaning. Can't describe it. Like that very first feeling you get when LSD kicks in an hour after taking it.

I have work in an hour so I'm not doing anymore, but I can only imagine what a higher dose can do with perception. Visuals will be rad but I'm curious about how my perception will shift further.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14473827 - 05/18/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you can get mail order incense like that for 40-80 per ounce.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: argg]
    #14473924 - 05/18/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

HOLY SHIT! Okay, I said "fuck it" and took 2 BIG hits from a packed bowl. I ate lunch, went to the bathroom, looked in the mirror.....and my eyes were BLOODSHOT fucking red!

I have not smoked any marijuana at all today.

Dude this shits rad. I'm going to smoke SOO MUCH of it after work tonight!!!


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14473951 - 05/18/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My friend is in the e_ward from using bath salts . And there have been multiple cases of people commiting suicide from taking it. It's gets you crazy dellusional. I would not recommend trying it....


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: bRaInMeLtErS]
    #14474565 - 05/18/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wait, diablo is not a "bath salt" is it? I googled bath salt and I don't want to do that. I'm home from work so now I will start my REAL experimentation with this diablo stuff.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14474857 - 05/18/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"bath salt" is a slang term for MDPV, a substituted phenethylamine that's somewhat similar to amphetamines (and quite a bit different from coke or MDMA, contrary to what news reports say). It's fairly dangerous but the news stories blow it way out of proportion. It does not cause visuals or hallucinations. Bath salt products can also contain mephedrone (a form of cathinone that's highly addictive) and methylone (which is similar to MDMA). Hallucinations caused by bath salt products may be from other ingredients such as those.

I'm not familiar with Diablo specifically but 99% of these legal smoking blends are just mullein or other non-psychoactive herbs sprayed with JWH-018 or other similar compounds. As far as we know they are not dangerous. The reason some of them cause such an intense high is just because they spray a LOT of chemicals on them, or because the chemicals are highly potent. 

When they say " a blend of Mullein, Damiana, Marshmallow herbs and a proprietary blend of aromatic ingredients" I take this to mean Mullein is the base. It's a non-psychoactive herb that has a smooth smoke and mellow flavor. Damiana actually has psychoactive properties and can cause mild euphoria when smoked. It also has aphrodisiac effects. I'm guessing the marshmallow herbs are for flavor. "proprietary blend of aromatic ingredients" almost definitely means synthetic cannabinoids like JWH-018 or JWH-022.


Also, salvia is not stupid. It's an extremely potent and powerful entheogen if used correctly. It is not to be taken lightly!


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: bRaInMeLtErS]
    #14475011 - 05/18/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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My friend is in the e_ward from using bath salts . And there have been multiple cases of people commiting suicide from taking it. It's gets you crazy dellusional. I would not recommend trying it....




I read about a man in Mississippi who took and knife and gashed his face and his stomach up.

I would stay away from those bath-salts they are dangerous.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: eqt146]
    #14475019 - 05/18/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

bath salts might be anything. They could be anyone of many substituted cathinones or MDPV. at first it was 4mmc in most but china stopped making it so others where used. MDPV is popular as its cheap and really strong so it can be cut down 10x to make it as powerful as 4mmc. Some are not cut at all. The main danger is how they are sold as properly packed in little amount they would be relatively harmless as people would do the tiny amount then go to sleep 12 hour later. The problem is the free market,they are not in a crooked racket like pharmaceutical where everything it marked up 500000% only a few thousand/hundred percent so a gram can be had for 20-60 depending on quality. When people are used to paying insane mark ups from legit pharmacies for speed then they get something stronger and cheaper its dangerous.

There are bath salts that are nothing but cut caffeine now too.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: argg]
    #14475052 - 05/18/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

christ.... is this a JWH thread?

i tried to read that mass of gibberish the OP posted but didnt get very far.

JWH is coolio OP. use google. stop gettin ripped off.


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Re: Diablo legal herbal insence? Crazy shit according to friends... [Re: k00laid]
    #14475085 - 05/18/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

occollegeboi... Even though what you probably have is JWH-018, you don't know. And the fact that you don't know what it is means that you don't know how to use it safely. You don't know what are the symptoms of an overdose, whether the chemical might be fatal at certain doses, etc.

Do yourself a favor... if you want to fuck around with cannabinoid analogues find a company that sells the chem by itself so you actually know what you're getting and do some research on it so you know how to use it safely.


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