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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
    #14468733 - 05/17/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mushroom Palace or anyone, is the jar, that appears in the picture of the first post, a 1 pint or a 1/2 pint? And how do you come to that conclusion? I have no fing idea ha


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: Ajm]
    #14468838 - 05/17/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there is no way to tell from that pic, nothing there for size reference.


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14468935 - 05/17/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No, it is the 1/2 pint jar... I never opened the containers... I just used the drilled out holes on the top to squirt the spores into... So they are just as they came and I haven't mixed anything or even touched the soil or the vermiculite...

So... From what everyone seems to be saying is that it doesn't show any signs of contamination, which is good... And I should just be more patient and the mycelium should show up... Does that sound about right?

Oh... And one quick thing on a side note... I live in AZ where it's really warm, so the air conditioning is always on... But I do have a spare bedroom and I put the incubator in the empty closet of the spare room...

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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
    #14468966 - 05/17/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No, it is the 1/2 pint jar... I never opened the containers... I just used the drilled out holes on the top to squirt the spores into... So they are just as they came and I haven't mixed anything or even touched the soil or the vermiculite...

So... From what everyone seems to be saying is that it doesn't show any signs of contamination, which is good... And I should just be more patient and the mycelium should show up... Does that sound about right?

Oh... And one quick thing on a side note... I live in AZ where it's really warm, so the air conditioning is always on... But I do have a spare bedroom and I put the incubator in the empty closet of the spare room...





Ditch the incubator, I've fruited in 60-65 degree weather during the winter when my heat wasn't working (MN), and colonized in 50-55 degree temps. Incubators are more of a waist of money. Higher temps will increase your chance for contams


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14469105 - 05/17/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have some PF Albino that I have been waiting for them to colonize for 2 months now.
Good News is that 1 of them has finally colonized 100% today. the other 2 are at approx. 75-80%.
Wait Grasshopper & it will come to you.
In the mean time start another batch so that you can continue to harvest without a waiting period.
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14469634 - 05/17/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Really?  Just take them out of the incubator completely?  Why does every place suggest you use one if you dont really need it? 

And yeah, I was thinking about starting another batch but I don't have any more jars and don't trust myself to make my own... Lol

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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
    #14469681 - 05/17/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's not tough to make your own jars, 1 cup brown rice flour, 1 cup water, 2 cups vermaculite steamed for 90 mins in a pot with 4 holes in the lid covered by tinfoil.

I started with an incubator, and ended up getting rid of it as I had better results in colder temps.

Higher temps increase contam rates and is an old way of growing. They used to say 80-84 degrees is optimal, over the years cultivators have realized that 70-75 degrees is perfect!


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14469736 - 05/17/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well my house is about 70 to 75 naturally when I have the air conditioning on... It wouldn't be bad or harmful to the jars to take them out of the incubator...

And yeah, I would certainly attempt to make my own jars... But my best friend (who had a friend that he helped grow before) scares the piss outta me by saying that if I do something wrong, I can make mushrooms that are deadly... Which I'm not sure is true or not but it definitely has me worried.  Lol

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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
    #14469847 - 05/17/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You wont know til u try.
If it doesn't look good, post a pick & someone will let you know.
GO FOR IT!!!
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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: mabachko]
    #14470033 - 05/17/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it's mainly dangerous if the fruits are rotten, if they grow and you keep fanning, you're fine, don't worry about it.

As for taking your jars out of the incubator, do it. The climate change wont hurt them, they'll be fine, just keep the jars right side up and place them on a shelf or on top of your fridge or something


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
    #14470459 - 05/17/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah take them out of the incubator. Incubators are only for people who grow at areas where temperatures are so low that they HAVE to use an incubator. Like me. In winter temperatures can drop to 45°F - 50°F. At that point I use an incubator. For the rest of the year I just put my jars at room temperature.


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
    #14471072 - 05/18/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Q:  When you innocculated(sp?) the jars (which I believe to be 1/2 pint standard mouth jars), did you do so against the glass or straight down into the substrate?


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #14471266 - 05/18/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I tried to do it against the glass, but a few days later, I put more syringe spores directly against the glass. I figured it might be wasteful, but at least I'll know that I did it right the second time...

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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: firsttimearound]
    #14471693 - 05/18/11 03:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well my house is about 70 to 75 naturally when I have the air conditioning on... It wouldn't be bad or harmful to the jars to take them out of the incubator...

And yeah, I would certainly attempt to make my own jars... But my best friend (who had a friend that he helped grow before) scares the piss outta me by saying that if I do something wrong, I can make mushrooms that are deadly... Which I'm not sure is true or not but it definitely has me worried.  Lol



:notards: um yea you can grow molds that will make you sick, if you have unsterile conditions during inoculation, but there are ways to safely throwing them away.

do some reading around here and in the files.  use the search button, go through the mushroom info button.  just read everything!


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: ic3.qu33n]
    #14471730 - 05/18/11 04:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why is there a two page thread about one uncolonized BRF jar that isn't even in the right kind of jar?


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14471755 - 05/18/11 04:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why is there a two page thread about one uncolonized BRF jar that isn't even in the right kind of jar?



It is in the right kind of jar. It's a kit he bought. And there's two pages because we're trying to help this guy with all his questions. :thumbup:


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
    #14471774 - 05/18/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nooo it is not the right kind of jar for BRF PF cakes, it is a tall half pint jar not a short wide mouth half pint jar which is the right jar for BRF cakes. Just because he bought it in a kit doesn't mean that they are the right jars for the tek. The tall jars are tougher to get fully colonized and sometimes take an extra week to a month to fully colonize. These are the right size jars for BRF PF cakes...

http://www.goodmans.net/i/1908/kerr-0500-wide-mouth-mason-jar-half-pint-8oz.htm?sc=GOOGLEBASE&k=KJ-00500

this is the jar size in his pic...

http://www.goodmans.net/i/488/ball-66000-pint-size-wide-mouth-can-or-freeze-maso.htm


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14471794 - 05/18/11 05:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Nooo it is not the right kind of jar for BRF PF cakes, it is a tall half pint jar not a short wide mouth half pint jar which is the right jar for BRF cakes. Just because he bought it in a kit doesn't mean that they are the right jars for the tek. The tall jars are tougher to get fully colonized and sometimes take an extra week to a month to fully colonize. These are the right size jars for BRF PF cakes...

http://www.goodmans.net/i/1908/kerr-0500-wide-mouth-mason-jar-half-pint-8oz.htm?sc=GOOGLEBASE&k=KJ-00500

this is the jar size in his pic...

http://www.goodmans.net/i/488/ball-66000-pint-size-wide-mouth-can-or-freeze-maso.htm



Just because colonization would run slower doesn't mean that the jars are unsuitable. That's bollocks.
I've grown in almost every wide mouth glass jar I could find and they all work perfectly.


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: MushroomPalace]
    #14471847 - 05/18/11 05:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have grown in an 8"x12" casserole dish, wide mouth pint jars, and wide mouth half pints.

Every time I try to make a pint cake even if I use coffee for 25% of the water and add gypsum the cake takes forever to colonize and most of the time never finishes colonizing.

Do you have good success with WM pints and if so will you please share your secret.


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Re: First Time Growing: Is this the start of mycelium growth? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14472858 - 05/18/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I promise that they are the right size jars.., I purchased the deluxe grow kit from Cali Grow Kits if you want to see exactly what I'm working with.  And I am sorry if I am taking up too much time from you guys, but I really appreciate all of the help that you guys have to offer but my apologies to anyone who is upset that I keep asking questions.  Thank you all for your help.

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