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OfflineMDMAustin
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my Friend is a zooter...
    #14469363 - 05/17/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

first off, give me a break and don't gimme abuncha bullshit cause this means something to me..
I have a real close friend that I have had a deep connection with for years. we've had so many great experiences tripping together and evolving into loving and peaceful people (at least what i thought).
In the past couple months he has started taking massive amounts of prescription pills, anything he can get his hand on really. The main problem comes from roxys, xanax and cocaine though. Its gone from a relationship with a kid that i can talk about anything with, to a relationship where he can barely speak at all. I have tried to help him so many times and had countless conversations, even tossed him around a little, and he just wont respond. Its like he feels invincible and he can take as many as he want. He'll take upwards of ten z bars a day sometimes. I guess after so many failed attempts of trying to break through to a lost soul, I've lost my own way on trying to help him out with this problem. WTF would you do in my shoes?
This is one of my main homies and i got a lot of love for the kid...


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14469379 - 05/17/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nothing you can really do for the most part. Just walk away or you are enabling him. 30k people like him die a year and its so common its old news. until everyone ditches him in life he will think its ok to party like that unless he dies first.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: argg]
    #14469388 - 05/17/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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nothing you can really do for the most part. Just walk away or you are enabling him. 30k people like him die a year and its so common its old news. until everyone ditches him in life he will think its ok to party like that unless he dies first.



easier said than done... known this kid since i was ten


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14469443 - 05/17/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Kick him in the nuts. If he wont stop even when others are concerned, he wont stop for anything. The only person that can help him, is himself. And with 10 bars a day, thats not very good help...

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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14469518 - 05/17/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

He's probably in such a haze from all that xanex he doesn't even know how bad his drug use is really getting. You should take him on a camping trip and not let him do any pills or coke.

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    #14469528 - 05/17/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Unfortunately not much you can do until he hits his rock bottom point.  Hopefully that's before the final OD.  Kids like that are sad.  :feelsbadman:

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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14469678 - 05/17/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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argg said:
nothing you can really do for the most part. Just walk away or you are enabling him. 30k people like him die a year and its so common its old news. until everyone ditches him in life he will think its ok to party like that unless he dies first.



easier said than done... known this kid since i was ten




I have dropped several people from my life like that. Its hard I know first hand. My brother keeps friends like that around and it costs me as they lie cheat and steal from him and I. I have reported my shit stolen and gotten people I know put away to be able to get my property back. I told one guy after seeing my stuff in the pawn shop that I was going to report it missing to get it back. I gave him a week. He failed to get it back out so I got it out and he went in. Drop him now as it only gets harder.

Maybe one one or two people that that I know have gotten better but it takes full out leaving to another life without talking to people you know for a long time. A few are dead and the rest are fucked up in and out of jail or using enablers for what they can to get high living day to day. The lucky ones that are still fucked up but smart enough to get public aid/welfare use people a little less and work the free methadone programs so they steal less.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14469730 - 05/17/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Have a heart to heart talk. Kind of like a mini intervention. Tell him what he is doing and how it is affecting your relationship. Tell him that if he continues on his path of self destruction, you can have no part in his escapades.

Also maybe suggest treatment or NA. Don't be overbearing or confrontational. Keep it rational and don't let it get out of hand.

It might be something to shock him back to reality, or he might not be ready to quit. If the latter is the case, then there's nothing you can do until he bottoms out. Most addicts like that have to be ready and willing to quit and change their lives.

This is coming from a guy with about 75 days clean of drugs and alcohol. Remember, it has to be his choice. Him getting clean for those around him won't work. It certainly didn't for me over 2 years ago.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14470282 - 05/17/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, btw, talk to him before it's too late. I just opened up the county newspaper that has a crime section with mugshots and one of my old drug buddies was featured in it. 3rd DUI, destruction of property and fleeing the scene of an accident.

Haven't seen him in like 2 years tho.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14474045 - 05/18/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

greatly appreciate all the responses. I'm planning a little meeting with a couple real close friends and hopefully turn this all around for the better, or at least make a step towards positive progress.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14474224 - 05/18/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My best regards and wishes for your friend, brother.

Drug abuse is quite the Kraken.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: Humility]
    #14493614 - 05/22/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just to let you know, we had this small intervention type deal and my boy has been clean for a couple days now and is already returning back to his happy self. He has been sleeping ALOT the past few sober days, and I know its a process, but he saw how it was effecting his parents and friends and didnt wanna go down that road. We can only hope things continue like this :laugh: thanks shroomers!!


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14493630 - 05/22/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cool man :thumbup:


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14494535 - 05/22/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Good to hear. I know when I stopped abusing prescription amphetamines and coke, I slept A LOT the first month. Like 16 hours a day.

I think you did the right thing and hopefully it will stick with him. Just keep reminding him that you are there for him, but don't be a dick and constantly remind him of his mistakes or how he acted during his using.

Hopefully that will be enough to help keep him clean, but if not, maybe suggest some sort of support group. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but I started going to NA meetings a few weeks after Christmas and since then I've only slipped up twice. That's 2 times in over 4 1/2 months, when I used to use almost every single fucking day.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #14498125 - 05/23/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Just to let you know, we had this small intervention type deal and my boy has been clean for a couple days now and is already returning back to his happy self. He has been sleeping ALOT the past few sober days, and I know its a process, but he saw how it was effecting his parents and friends and didnt wanna go down that road. We can only hope things continue like this :laugh: thanks shroomers!!






I don't want to be less than completely positive about this but don't look at that as an end-all.

Drug addicts operate in cycles and until your friend is really ready to be done he won't be.  Keep an eye out and your support ready because he'll need you, and a host of other positive characters in his life.


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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: Humility]
    #14498486 - 05/23/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

get him all fucked up, then get him in your car, and drop his ass off at a rehab.

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Re: my Friend is a zooter... [Re: MDMAustin]
    #15042026 - 09/07/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

WHASSUP GUYS I AM THAT ZOOTER! Lol Im doing fantastic now, havent taken a bar in 2 months, havent done roxy or blow in over 1 month. I moved away from my insane hometown to go to college, which was an awesome change, and I have so much shit to get done every day that it would be impossible for me to be a successful zooter like I was in high school. I guess there is a time and a place for everything, and living in my parents house spending my parents money and not having any responsibility was my time to shine on the zooter scene. Its crazy to look at how my friend felt towards me; you know how you dont know how bad you are when youre in it, I really had no idea he felt like this. BTW I wasnt doing 10 bars a day, but I was definitely blowing crazy amounts of cash gettin fucked up every day. "r on z on girl on" ... LOL!!!! hey MDMAustin lets lose our minds soon and telecommunicate


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    #15042074 - 09/07/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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