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wbs without spawning
    #14468449 - 05/17/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Would it be possible to just birth wbs without spawning or casing? I have a extra pint of wbs that's been colonized for about 5 days now and I don't know what to do with it. I don't have anymore room for another bulk tray so I was just gonna put it in my fc and birth like you would a pf cake?? Is this possible??


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14468484 - 05/17/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No. Grains, and especially wbs, don't hold enough moisture to support successful fruitbody formation. You can try to fruit it invitro, with pathetic results. Maybe you could fruit it in the jar and put a casing layer on top of it. That should work at least somewhat.


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: Tangich]
    #14469499 - 05/17/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thought I've seen a lot of people here fruiting WBS cakes, some with surprising results after a good dunk and roll?


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: sok2]
    #14469507 - 05/17/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

At least case it.


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: sok2]
    #14469517 - 05/17/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive cased and fruited rye in trays with sorta ok results,nothing spectacular


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: Masticore]
    #14469521 - 05/17/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I might just crumble it in a tubbaware bowl and case it with straight coir and see what happens


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: Masticore]
    #14469525 - 05/17/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And in my reading here, the majority say that casing doesn't increase yield when you're talking about smaller cakes.

I realize a lot of people use wbs to spawn to bulk, but I used to use wbs cakes all the time and it worked just fine.  I also cased them sometimes, too, but never really saw a huge difference in results.


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: sok2]
    #14469550 - 05/17/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's not about the yield, it's about the environment for pins to form in. As for your cakes, you were using strait WBS, no verm or anything?


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: sok2]
    #14469557 - 05/17/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So more less I can set it in my fc and it will grow?? Should I dunk and roll or no??


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: Masticore]
    #14469561 - 05/17/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ive been reading the mixed reviews and am actually trying a couple cakes out one dunked 4hrs in cold water and one undunked in a fc with around mid 90s rh the dunked cake is starting to knot whereas the undunked still looks like a cake pulled from the jar either way neither look great.


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14469574 - 05/17/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

YES!! It will grow! To all the nay-sayers and people who comment on something they dont know, look at my avatar. That is STRAIGHT WBS rolled in verm! I get pinsets on the jars fruiting invertro as well!

I use pint and 1/2 pints. Check my link in my sig for more pics and results!


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14469606 - 05/17/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lol slapphappy, you were exactly "who" I was referring to...

definately dunk and roll any cakes.


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: sok2]
    #14469609 - 05/17/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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lol slapphappy, you were exactly "who" I was referring to...



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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: sok2]
    #14469641 - 05/17/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

agree I quit using BRF for Cakes, I just use Ground WBS in its place and have the exact same results.. just cheaper :thumbup:


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: bakenast]
    #14469665 - 05/17/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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agree I quit using BRF for Cakes, I just use Ground WBS in its place and have the exact same results.. just cheaper :thumbup:




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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14469677 - 05/17/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok well I'm gonna try it also. Dunk for how long??


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14469685 - 05/17/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

24 hours


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14469710 - 05/17/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok thanks slappy its in a bowl with a plate on top as we speek. So from your experience how much do you usually get from a one pint jar done this way in optimal conditions?? Dry gams. These are EQ. Just curious.


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14469754 - 05/17/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

slapp, do you use room temp water or fridge-temp water?  Seems like the room temp or warmer is better from what I've read.


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Re: wbs without spawning [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14469797 - 05/17/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I use tap water set as cold as possible. You want colder water to keep contams from growing, otherwise your cakes might start to ferment.



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Ok thanks slappy its in a bowl with a plate on top as we speek. So from your experience how much do you usually get from a one pint jar done this way in optimal conditions?? Dry gams. These are EQ. Just curious.



This varies greatly from strain to cultivator, however my F+ cakes get 4.5-7 dry grams for the first flush, 3-6 for the second, and so on... I get about 4-5 flushes with an average of 10-15 grams dry. I don't really notice too much more weight from pint to 1/2 pint. 1/2 pints do VERY well with this and pints do OK. maybe an extra 3-5 grams more than a 1/2 pint?


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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